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maharg said:Yeah no. Also with Star Wars. It's called Expanded Universe for a reason.
Okay. I don't see how that counters my statement. A book exists into the mythology until its denied by movies or another official piece.
maharg said:Yeah no. Also with Star Wars. It's called Expanded Universe for a reason.
G-canon is absolute canon; the movies (their most recent release), the scripts, the novelizations of the movies, the radio plays, and any statements by George Lucas himself. G-canon overrides the lower levels of canon when there is a contradiction. Within G-canon, many fans follow an unofficial progression of canonicity where the movies are the highest canon, followed by the scripts, the novelizations, and then the radio plays.
T-canon[1] refers to the canon level comprising only the two television shows: Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series. Its precedence over C-Level canon was confirmed by Chee.[2]
C-canon is primarily composed of elements from the Expanded Universe including books, comics, and games bearing the label of Star Wars. Games and RPG sourcebooks are a special case; the stories and general background information are themselves fully C-canon, but the other elements such as character/item statistics and gameplay are, with few exceptions, N-canon.
S-canon is secondary canon; the story itself is considered non-continuity, but the non-contradicting elements are still a canon part of the Star Wars universe. This includes things like the online roleplaying game Star Wars: Galaxies and certain elements of a few N-canon stories.
N-canon is non-canon. "What-if" stories (such as stories published under the Star Wars: Infinities label), crossover appearances (such as the Star Wars character appearances in Soulcalibur IV), game statistics, and anything else directly contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N-canon is the only level that is not considered official canon by Lucasfilm. A significant amount of material that was previously C-canon was rendered N-canon by the release of Episodes I-III.
"The only relevant official continuities are the current versions of the films alone, and the combined current version of the films along with whatever else we've got in the Holocron. You're never going to know what George's view of the universe beyond the films at any given time because it is constantly evolving."
"Anything not in the current version of the films is irrelevant to Film only continuity."
Morn said:That's not how it works with Star Wars either...
MrBig said:Wait there was a live action star wars series?
Tried watching some more DS9 again. Just not my style. It fails for me in the same reason that SG Universe and BSG were completely uninteresting to me because of forcefully injected drama in a limited setting.
I really didn't care for that episode, and I consider myself a huge DS9 fan. I'm not sure that it would be the best to bring someone around.Zenith said:you could try one of the comedy episodes like Take me out to the Holosuite. Or just skip to Improbable Cause in season 3 for some great acting & action.
He was talking about the live action show for yeeeears, but I think the latest word is that it just wasn't looking feasible on a TV budget and was thus shelved indefinitely.jaxword said:Lucas is reportedly making one now, but there've been...others that tend to be forgotten.
JoshuaJSlone said:He was talking about the live action show for yeeeears, but I think the latest word is that it just wasn't looking feasible on a TV budget and was thus shelved indefinitely.
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jaxword said:After Lucas makes another couple of million off the Star Wars 3d Rerereleases, I'm sure he'll be able to afford it.
Which, in a way, will likely lead to more Star Trek, as it will revive interest in the genre.
Morn said:They won't do another TV series for Trek until there's a regime change at CBS. They had the option of doing a new series or movies, and the current head of CBS feels that Trek works better as movies so he has no desire to allow a new TV series as long as he's in charge.
industrian said:A bigger question I have is what the hell would the new TV series be doing? Would it be a reboot? Or a continuation of the "Romulans are destroyed" timeline or the new movie timeline? I used to be a massive Star Trek fan but I really don't know what direction a TV series would take.
industrian said:A bigger question I have is what the hell would the new TV series be doing? Would it be a reboot? Or a continuation of the "Romulans are destroyed" timeline or the new movie timeline? I used to be a massive Star Trek fan but I really don't know what direction a TV series would take.
ErasureAcer said:They should do a mirror universe Star Trek series where everything is f'ed up.
ErasureAcer said:They should do a mirror universe Star Trek series where everything is f'ed up.
jaxword said:This was my personal interpretation of Enterprise.
industrian said:A bigger question I have is what the hell would the new TV series be doing? Would it be a reboot? Or a continuation of the "Romulans are destroyed" timeline or the new movie timeline? I used to be a massive Star Trek fan but I really don't know what direction a TV series would take.
MrBig said:Wait there was a live action star wars series?
Agreed, but they could also do a cartoon set in the 2009 Verse and retelling TOS story's.BattleMonkey said:The best thing for them to do is to wait some more years and basically "reboot" the franchise in a similar manner than TNG did. Set it in the Prime universe but wait some time, set it further into the future and aim for bringing in a new generation of fans along with having the nostalgia factor.
beyond brief references in TNG: "Who Watches The Watchers", TNG: "Ship in a Bottle" and VOY: "Endgame", she was never heard from again
B_Rik_Schitthaus said:Agreed, but they could also do a cartoon set in the 2009 Verse and retelling TOS story's.
BattleMonkey said:The best thing for them to do is to wait some more years and basically "reboot" the franchise in a similar manner than TNG did. Set it in the Prime universe but wait some time, set it further into the future and aim for bringing in a new generation of fans along with having the nostalgia factor.
jaxword said:They already considered this
Rash said:I've really been enjoying Season 6 of DS9. Maybe more than Season 5. "Far Beyond the Stars" is just a beastly episode. It's fun yet powerful.
Not to make a specific recommendation, but pretty much anything before the late 90s is going to be a one-off adventure. Once they got into the movies and had less official content to conflict with, the books started becoming more self-referential. Most of the first 50-ish numbered ones would seem pretty safe.Petrie said:TNG fan here, really enjoying I, Q currently, and wondering what books I should get my hands on within TNG series. There's a ton, but I'd prefer stuff that can be read as a one-off sort of adventure, as I, Q seems to be. Recommendations?
The Ewok tv films were okay for the most part. Not the greatest thing but passable. The girl was even included in one or two of the novels as a minor character (she was an adult by then). The Special on the other hand... Well there is a reason why it's not possible to find any video footage of it. It's as if Lucasfilm scrubbed or is trying to scrub the world clean of it.DrForester said:
Slayven said:I don't know why but the warp nacelles on federation ships always bothered me. Seems like a design flaw when you consider they have to stretch out the shields to cover them.
Q: Obviously Scotty was the last one to join the crew in Star Trek. Obviously you dont know what the next script will be yet but are you excited to be there from the beginning?
Simon Pegg: Absolutely. I cant wait. Its a great crew. We all got on very well and I cant wait to get back into that thing of getting to know each other. I think theyll pick up the story from where we left off and weve all only just met so theres a lot of mileage I would imagine dramatically in us all sort of getting to know each other.
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Q: Is there any possibility that Nick will appear in the next Star Trek movie with you, Simon?
Simon Pegg: Probably not. We like working together but we dont come as a pair. Weve done as much stuff apart as we have together. Well always work together if we can though.
Nick Frost: Im happy that Simon goes off and does his little things on the side. I like Star Trek. I like watching him in Star Trek. I wouldnt like watching me in Star Trek. But if somebody offered me a million dollars to do it, maybe Id do it.
Simon Pegg: I think hed make a terrific Harry Mudd from the original Star Trek series.
He was great running around in that brewery!B.K. said:I hope he gets more screen time in Star Trek 2. I was a bit disappointed that Scotty had such a small party in the story.
B.K. said:Today is William Shatner's 80th birthday.
Veidt said:I have been watching Star Trek Voyager and TNG.
First episode of TNG was good. I love the concepts explored in just one episode. I never realized it was this good.
Voyager is also right up my alley.
Really? And why is that? I know it's incredibly serial, with some episodes that don't really mean anything. But I can tolerate that. And as much as people don't like Janeway's way of speaking, I love it. It reminds me of those old films, Casablanca and such.DrForester said:Fair warning. You won't find many friends here with talk like that...
Well that peace and stability only came after a global nuclear war that killed 15% of the world's population, so maybe their path isn't the best modeljaxword said:It occurs to me The Original Series, and the new movie, take place a bit over 200 years from now.
We really better move fast to get to that level of peace and stability in the world.
Zenith said:tech explanation is that they have to be clear of the hull to generate a warp field.
Veidt said:Really? And why is that? I know it's incredibly serial, with some episodes that don't really mean anything. But I can tolerate that. And as much as people don't like Janeway's way of speaking, I love it. It reminds me of those old films, Casablanca and such.
TNG just oozes awesome though. I honestly loved the first episode.
"TASHA: I must! Because I grew up on a world that allowed things like this court. And it was people like these that saved me from it. This so-called court should get down on its knees to what Starfleet is, what it represents.
So good.
DrForester said:Also, Saturday is Nimoy's 80th Birthday.
I always disliked Tasha.Veidt said:Really? And why is that? I know it's incredibly serial, with some episodes that don't really mean anything. But I can tolerate that. And as much as people don't like Janeway's way of speaking, I love it. It reminds me of those old films, Casablanca and such.
TNG just oozes awesome though. I honestly loved the first episode.
"TASHA: I must! Because I grew up on a world that allowed things like this court. And it was people like these that saved me from it. This so-called court should get down on its knees to what Starfleet is, what it represents. "
So good.