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Yay, most of the TNG main cast is going to be at Megacon 2013 in Orlando. Only ones missing will be Wheaton and Mcfadden, though they are trying to get them booked apparently. Q will be there as well.
Yay, most of the TNG main cast is going to be at Megacon 2013 in Orlando. Only ones missing will be Wheaton and Mcfadden, though they are trying to get them booked apparently. Q will be there as well.
Yay, most of the TNG main cast is going to be at Megacon 2013 in Orlando. Only ones missing will be Wheaton and Mcfadden, though they are trying to get them booked apparently. Q will be there as well.
de Lanice did a brony convention this weekend due to his work on the show. It was very obvious that he's never seen the show, even the episodes he did voice for, and is just really fascinated by the fandom behind it for some reason.
Guy is an expert at working a crowd.
I would totally try to do it if they had done better episodes.
Just do The Best of Both Worlds and be done with it.
Saw a bit of The Captains yesterday. Thought it was pretty funny when Shatner was walking along the (English) country road, "bumps into" Patrick Stewart and says what a surprise it is to see him there... while Patrick just replies "William, you invited me here."
What happened with Brooks?
Awesome.
You know, of all the actors who played Captains... Brooks is the one that fell off the map pretty quickly. Heck, I even still see Mulgrew once in a while.
If you haven't gotten to the Avery Brooks bits yet, then you haven't actually seen the bestparts of The Captains.(weirdest)
So he gave up on Hollywood and not the other way around?Brooks wanted to go back to Theater and other stuff, and he's reportedly not huge fan of the fandom and doesn't do a ton of conventions.
Just watch the movies in release order. If you want to skip movies, you could probably skip 1, 5, 9, and 10.Ok so I finished The Original Series, TNG, DS9, and Voyager. I have not seen any of the movies, and I wanted to know what order I should watch them in. Also should I even bother with Enterprise? Since I'm almost done with Trek. Can anyone else recommend me some good sci fi series?
People might suggest the new Battlestar Galactica, but given how it all played out, I'm really not sure if it's worth watching anymore. For me anyway, it showed me that Ron Moore works best with someone like Braga, Berman or Behr to rein him in. If anything, Moore and Braga should just stick to running shows together to balance out each other's worse tendencies.
In the Companion, Moore and Behr talk about Berman over-riding some of their bigger ideas for the show (the most famous one would be Behr's idea to end the show with Benny Russell).Kinda think DS9's ending is a little preview of what was in store for BSG. Not sure he was reined in enough. But I'm the heretic who doesn't think DS9 was all that fantastic.
So he gave up on Hollywood and not the other way around?
Just watch the movies in release order. If you want to skip movies, you could probably skip 1, 5, 9, and 10.
If you haven't seen it already, you should watch Galaxy Quest, since it's basically an unofficial Star Trek movie.
As for what show you should check out... I would say Stargate SG-1 comes closest to the Star Trek formula/feel, even if the first season is pretty rough. I've heard good things about Farscape, but I haven ever seen it.
People might suggest the new Battlestar Galactica, but given how it all played out, I'm really not sure if it's worth watching anymore. For me anyway, it showed me that Ron Moore works best with someone like Braga, Berman or Behr to rein him in. If anything, Moore and Braga should just stick to running shows together to balance out each other's worse tendencies.
As for Enterprise... it's basically just more Voyager. There's a stupid metaplot that goes nowhere (which is classic Braga and Berman - think Year of Hell but spread out across three seasons and having even less consequences) and the prequel concept quickly doesn't matter beyond fanservice episodes. People seem to like the Manny Coto season (season 4), but I remember being turned off by the constant references to the lore. It went from fanservice to fan-fiction at times.
In the Companion, Moore and Behr talk about Berman over-riding some of their bigger ideas for the show (the most famous one would be Behr's idea to end the show with Benny Russell).
Although funny enough, I'm not sure I quite like DS9 as much as I used to. At the very least, I do feel like rewatching TNG at some point. I don't really have the same desire with DS9 (or any other Trek series).
I will say, where DS9 ended up - despite the silliness of the last season with Dukat and Sisko - is still better than where BSG ended up!
If you enjoyed Voyager, you'll probably have no problem with Enterprise for the most part.I'm on season 4 of Battlestar Galactica. I have liked what I have seen so far, and I already read about the ending/season 4 so I won't be disappointed now that I know what to expect. I didn't think Voyager was too bad so I may check out Enterprise. I think Stargate will be the next series I watch.
Heh, that was from he original series. They could have changed it, but then they wouldn't be allowed to "swear" at all.Edit:This is off topic, but whoever came up with frack as a substitute for fuck in Battlestar Galactica should have been fired.
Ok so I finished The Original Series, TNG, DS9, and Voyager. I have not seen any of the movies, and I wanted to know what order I should watch them in. Also should I even bother with Enterprise? Since I'm almost done with Trek. Can anyone else recommend me some good sci fi series?
Hah, yeah. Although iirc, its original intent was to serve as a gentle introduction to the original series.Starting with In The Beginning would be a terrible terrible mistake.
Oh god yes, where they begin and where they end up are amazing.Also, watch it like Londo and G'Kar are the main characters. It doesn't look like it on the surface, but that's where the richest storytelling is.
Hah, yeah. Although iirc, its original intent was to serve as a gentle introduction to the original series.
Oh god yes, where they begin and where they end up are amazing.
Oh god, I totally forgot B5.
Now there's a show that's a puzzle. Do you start with the TNT prequel movie, which spoils everything but provides context for the first couple of seasons, or do you start with The Gathering, which sets the pieces but has nearly an entirely different cast, or what? lol
But there's a show with probably the greatest payoff for a serialized SF TV series that I've seen. It's not just lip-service like it is in BSG or Lost.
Hah, yeah, I imagine. Although I do remember it having some very beautiful moments at least.Fortunately, we as viewers have the option of ignoring the author when they say something stupid.
Seriously, though. I was showing someone B5 recently and made the mistake of showing them In The Beginning before season 5 and it spoiled something *even then*. Not worth it. Should be the last thing you watch. And then never watch any of the other movies or spinoffs because they're all terrible.
There's no contest. It's probably one of the best arcs in television period.I think it's the best character arc in SF television, no exaggeration.
In my opinion In The Beginning should not be watched first. It spoils several plot lines, and may be best watched after season 3 or 4. It's not that good either, so you're not missing much in any case. The Gathering, which was the real pilot movie, is not that good either, but at least it introduces the station better.
And I do prefer the first 3 seasons when it comes to space battles. They looked more realistic.
Seriously, though. I was showing someone B5 recently and made the mistake of showing them In The Beginning before season 5 and it spoiled something *even then*. Not worth it. Should be the last thing you watch. And then never watch any of the other movies or spinoffs because they're all terrible.
Can anyone back me up on this, or is nostalgia clouding my judgement?
I really liked the show, to the point where I followed the newsgroup and followed the immediate aftermath of the show's cancellation and whatnot. I even bought it on disc when Fox finally pooped that set out a few years ago.Also, you know what show no one ever mentions?
Space: Above and Beyond.
I loved the hell out of this show, and while it only got one season, if I remember correctly it is thankfully largely self-contained. The dark atmosphere, the setting, the budget and some excellent sci-fi story-lines really set it apart, imo.
Can anyone back me up on this, or is nostalgia clouding my judgement?
Another set of recommendations for SG1 (and SGA if you end up liking the formula) and B5 (just finished it myself, fantastic show). Enterprise isn't bad, and Season 4 is actually pretty good, but it's certainly the weakest show thanks to B&B shitting over the series (and that's saying something given how bad TOS can be).
Heh, that was from he original series. They could have changed it, but then they wouldn't be allowed to "swear" at all.
Ok so I finished The Original Series, TNG, DS9, and Voyager. I have not seen any of the movies, and I wanted to know what order I should watch them in. Also should I even bother with Enterprise? Since I'm almost done with Trek. Can anyone else recommend me some good sci fi series?
In the Companion, Moore and Behr talk about Berman over-riding some of their bigger ideas for the show (the most famous one would be Behr's idea to end the show with Benny Russell).
Although funny enough, I'm not sure I quite like DS9 as much as I used to. At the very least, I do feel like rewatching TNG at some point. I don't really have the same desire with DS9 (or any other Trek series).
I will say, where DS9 ended up - despite the silliness of the last season with Dukat and Sisko - is still better than where BSG ended up!
FixedThe original series had a couple of different words, and you weren't really supposed to know what they just said, you were just supposed to understand that they said something bad.
Moore changed "frack" to "frak" and made it a 1:1 replacement for "fuck" so he could throw the f-bomb around with zero subtlety whatsoever.
They're maybe not really sci-fi (or are they?), but thinking of BSG, I'll toss out that you should probably watch LOST (you'll know by the fourth episode if it's for you) and then Fringe (similar to X-Files from the makers of LOST). Oh and, the original X-Files might be a good idea.
And Firefly, from Joss Whedon. It was great while it lasted (one season). Followed by it's movie, Serenity.
And it's fantasy, not sci-fi, but the current show with the cultural impact of BSG or LOST seems to be Game of Thrones.
Reading this thread has gotten me interested in watching the entirety of DS9. I'd prefer to wait for a Blu-ray edition like TNG is getting, but my guess is I'd be waiting a very long time for its release.
As for Stargate: I think I watched the first seven or eight seasons of SG-1. Really enjoyed it, but I lost track of it during the later seasons.
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:lol I thought you were just joking. You know reverse things to upset the "nerds" type of thing.Whoops, thanks.