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The Girl Scouts Have Accused The Boy Scouts Of Secretly Trying To Recruit Girls
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Turbo Killer
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Why aren't they popular though? Didn't Trump's speech give them a boost in popularity?
BronsonLee
Member
It's like an Inverted Pawnee Goddess Maneuver
evil solrac v3.0
Member
girl scouts have lemon wedge cookies, they win.
People are saying it was the best speech ever. Frederick Douglass just called me actually saying how much he loved it.
As an Eagle Scout - marketing for the Boy Scouts is fucking terrible. They have zero idea of how to sell themselves to a modern generation of kids. I wouldn't be surprised if most young Americans likely either think it's outdated (which parts of it certainly are) or simply don't even know it exists.
Seriously, when was the last time you turned on the TV or were watching a YouTube video and saw an ad for Boy Scouts? They're practically non-existent.
Hexa
Member
That's what I'm thinking too. Don't get why they have separate organizations in the first place.
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
Shouldn't we just make it "The Kids Scouts" or something at this point and not delegate different skill sets to children based on whether they're a boy or girl?
BS CEO: "Alright everyone, our enrollment is dropping. We need to turn this around. We need big ideas. What have you got?"
Guy 1: "Maybe we could expand into the female demographic?"
Guy 2: "Isn't that the Girl Scouts?"
Guy 1: "No, this would be different. It would be the Boy Scouts for girls!"
CEO: "Brilliant. I love it."
2 days later
CEO: "Let's have someone with a very public history of sexual assault and creeping on underage girls to talk to our Scouts!"
Guy 1: "Maybe we could expand into the female demographic?"
Guy 2: "Isn't that the Girl Scouts?"
Guy 1: "No, this would be different. It would be the Boy Scouts for girls!"
CEO: "Brilliant. I love it."
2 days later
CEO: "Let's have someone with a very public history of sexual assault and creeping on underage girls to talk to our Scouts!"
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
Boy Scouts is way too embedded with religion as well for many millennial parents, such as myself.
Turbo Killer
Member
Also do they still ban gay scoutmasters?
I wouldn't mind seeing the research supporting any of this mindset. Both these groups are unsavory in their own ways and its odd to see one of them get so defensive about something as petty as the other one possibly looking at expanding opportunities for kids.
Some boys probably would prefer programs similar to what girls scouts offer and some girls may prefer the opposite.
Some boys probably would prefer programs similar to what girls scouts offer and some girls may prefer the opposite.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Leslie Knope doesn't stop.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
It was there. I was never able to join though mostly because it was a Father and Son thing and my dad was out of the picture. Thinking about it chances are my mom kept me so I didn't get upset.
At some point in the future, perhaps.
But now I see the Girl Scouts as a separate organization for empowering young girls, since they're in need of it. And I see the Boy Scouts in a similar way, to teach young boys aspects of masculinity that aren't harmful.
So it ends up that they become similar to one another, which I'm sure they're doing. The Boy Scouts doesn't need to recruit girls, it would help if both orgs recruited more LGBT children.
Er... LGB children are generally going to look just like non-LGB children though?
Dreadnought
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As a former BS it's a shame the BSA and GSA won't combine together like every other country. The BSA is also extremely religious which annoyed the hell out of me. If you're gay or agnostic and the BSA find out they will kick you out
Mr_Antimatter
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Hasn't the coed Venture Crew program from BSA been a thing for a long time now?
We tried that once at my school. Lasted two campouts. Turns out, more then a few of the kids got their fornication merit batches on those trips.
We tried that once at my school. Lasted two campouts. Turns out, more then a few of the kids got their fornication merit batches on those trips.
BlazinSkatinAxel
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Boy Scouts trying to get the cookie recipe.
elrechazado
Banned
It's ironic here since women's group have been pushing the boy scouts to accept women for literally decades.
Seems you and most others are missing the point that the Boy Scouts are slandering the GSA for recruitment purposes.
Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts only have similar names, they're completely separate organizations.
boy scouts have no food products that i wish to consume
Yeah, I was wondering about that too. I met a venture crew at Philmont and they were awesome.
DeployThatPizza
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Most people will say thin mints, and I agree. Their peanut butter cookies aren't bad either.
Tagalongs (called a different name in some markets), Thin Mints, and Samoas (also called a different name in some markets) are all good. It comes down to whether you want peanut butter, mint or coconut. With each there are similar Keebler knockoffs.
OT:
The Girl Scouts have avoided many of the horrible mistakes the Boy Scouts have made in the last few years (forced religion, homophobia, giving Trump a platform, etc...), so I tend to side with them over the Boy Scouts even though I was a Boy Scout for a few years a long time ago.
Yeah? That's separate from my other point. I'm just saying inclusivity is a good general principle and I'm sure they're already doing that.
Aren't Girl scouts more progressive in their teaching than boy scouts? I thought that for Girl Scouts there is technology incentives to teach the children science and technology to encourage them into joining STEM along side the usual Girl Scout Activities.
Boy Scouts seems to be about outdoor and survival skills in a less progressive more traditional environment. The Culture in both seems very hostile towards the other. At the same time the girl scouts have their place in terms of Female empowerment like the encouragement for girls to join more male dominated fields, adding boys to that mix defeats the purpose in that regard. I don't see a problem with Girls joining the Boy Scouts because Outdoor and Survival Skills are useful to anyone regardless of gender. In that way if it wasn't for the attitudes and bias of the Boy Scouts I think there's more of a place for Girls in the Boy Scouts and Boys in the Girl Scouts.
Boy Scouts seems to be about outdoor and survival skills in a less progressive more traditional environment. The Culture in both seems very hostile towards the other. At the same time the girl scouts have their place in terms of Female empowerment like the encouragement for girls to join more male dominated fields, adding boys to that mix defeats the purpose in that regard. I don't see a problem with Girls joining the Boy Scouts because Outdoor and Survival Skills are useful to anyone regardless of gender. In that way if it wasn't for the attitudes and bias of the Boy Scouts I think there's more of a place for Girls in the Boy Scouts and Boys in the Girl Scouts.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Yeah wtf.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Venture Crew is a coed program from the boy scouts, though many venture crews are all girls. My girlfriend's little sister was a part of one, has gone to Philmont multiple times, etc. It's actually a great program, but yeah if you put teenagers together they are gonna have sex. Not like boys aren't having sex with each other in boy scouts or vice versa.
As for the topic at hand, Venture Crews aren't exactly secret so I have no idea what Girl Scouts are on about, BSA have been recruiting girls through Venture Crews for years.
Jorok Goldblade
Member
I'm assuming this is over the Venture and Explorers programs, which have always been co-ed?
"We at the Boy Scouts support girls choosing either organization. Now while you're here let us tell you why the Boy Scouts rule and the Girl Scouts drool, then you can make an informed choice about whether you want your girls to be around cooties or not"
I will not let any future children of mine join the Boy Scouts. Despite having been one.
Decades of sweeping aside abuse, kicking out good leaders over sexual orientation, and most recently that ridiculousness of the jamboree. Unsurprising that they would try to undermine the Girl Scouts. The Girl Scouts have been pretty open about their values of inclusiveness and I imagine that's where the Boy Scouts are trying to drive a wedge with families.
Decades of sweeping aside abuse, kicking out good leaders over sexual orientation, and most recently that ridiculousness of the jamboree. Unsurprising that they would try to undermine the Girl Scouts. The Girl Scouts have been pretty open about their values of inclusiveness and I imagine that's where the Boy Scouts are trying to drive a wedge with families.
Captin Quacker
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Underrated post is underrated
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Because they know they'll lose. The two programs are almost the inverse of each other: the Boy Scouts have a lot of garbage policies but also provide some worthwhile programs and experiences. The Girl Scouts are better on the top down policies but far worse on what the actual program provides.