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The High-end VR Discussion Thread (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, Playstation VR)
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Zalusithix
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Just a fair warning... Think about the liability aspect. Unless you're going to babysit every person, there's the chance they can trip/fall and injure themselves, or do any number of other things they might sue for. I'm not sure what the laws are like where you are, but around here, the business would be liable. Could potentially have them sign a waiver, but I have no idea how well it'd actually hold up in court.
Zepp Twofist
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I was getting really confused by this, thinking I had read all of it wrong, but then I realized that the OP had edited the post since I first read it.
But tons of great info in there, and it seems to give a really nuanced (and realistic) image of the whole situation.
I hope they get the 0.6/0.7 compatibility sorted though. It would be fun to go back to earlier demos and proof of concepts from the DK2 days for people who didn't have one at the time (also, that is what American/Euro Truck Sim is supporting as of now).
That is pretty interesting, thank you!
So I could put the lasers on my floor-standing speakers? I think they are 1,3 m height.
New video from Anton Hand and his Virtual Object Experiements. This time featuring an m79 and quick-belt loading.
His work is probably my favorite thing about VR right now.
His work is probably my favorite thing about VR right now.
I wasn't to tempted by this game, but it seems to get better and better the more i see of it.
Zalusithix
Member
Do they have powered subs in them? If so, are the speakers spiked to the ground if on carpet? Any vibration / angle changes imparted to the lighthouses should be detected as subtle movement of the headset/controllers. They'll probably be off while using the Vive, but it doesn't hurt to confirm these things.
But yes, you could use them for seated play. Standing play would require you be a certain distance away from the speakers. About a half meter to cover the height needed, or about three quarters of a meter to get coverage down to the ground. Keep in mind that you'll need them at opposing corners for full 360 coverage.
Edit: Might actually need more space for the downward direction. The lighthouses will need to be at around a 45 degree toe in vs the speaker, which means the corner of the speaker will occlude some of the laser cast.
Mhh no, they are just speakers.
I have some older images of my gaming room:
I would eliminate the coffee table....
Impulsor
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I'm 4:08 pm UTC.
I saw MArch as an estiamte when finished preordering. I hope it's true.
Zalusithix
Member
Mhh no, they are just speakers.
I have some older images of my gaming room:
I would eliminate the coffee table....
Assuming there's a complimentary pair in the rear of the room, you should be able to do both seated and standing fine. Room scale might have some occlusion while facing the couch down low, but should work under most situations. Make sure there's a big enough chaperone buffer between the virtual bounds and the TV though... You really don't want to hit that.
Also of note is that you might need a sync cord going between the lighthouses. One of the reasons to mount them up high is so they can see each other and sync. With them down low, a body will occlude their view. The question is whether the sync only needs to happen when turned on, or whether it's an ongoing thing. If the former, you should be good without the cable. If the later, you'll need the cable. Not that big of a deal though as it should be able to be run along the with the speaker cables to the back of the room. Edit: On reading the manual, it seems to suggest it's an ongoing thing or they wouldn't care about head/hands. So yeah, be prepared to run a sync cable.
It is obviously a gamble, but I do think HTC are likely to send a handful of systems to the 5-6 places that are doing demos. Would be silly not to really. But like you say, PC world play ignorant and don't really know.
edit: looking at the pic above and talk of buffer zone. I have my TV in an IKEA BESTA unit, but it is open to the room. I kind of wish I'd put sliding doors across it now for full protection
shiftplusone
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where can you see your preorder time at on the site?
I got my confirmation email at 7 minutes after they went up, is that where you're seeing it?
The Elite
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https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3zrnjm/get_extra_info_on_your_order/
Edit: My email from Oculus was also six past the hour. I think this is more for users who got stuck in that period when the site was not working properly.
My order went through just fine. I had setup an account prior to orders going up and it was almost as easy as doing an order through Amazon. The chaos ensued just after.
I tested two demos with the Touch and they all worked flawless. One was the BulletTrain and the other was the Unreal 4 Vr Editor and I really like the weight and the force feedback. The Vive controller it's bigger, and has some buttons that I'm not familiar to use
shiftplusone
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awesome thanks
looks like my order time is also 4:06. I'd think that should be good enough for day 1 but we'll see
It's a week away they better start getting order statuses updated for people
So good
Try the Vive requirement test on steam.
bigwinnerx
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I think you need 3x USB 3.0 and 1x USB 2.0.
mdsfx
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Pffff, welp count me out
sure as hell not upgrading my motherboard and CPU before spending another $600bigwinnerx
Member
Pffff, welp count me out
Just get one of these kind of things.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FPIMJEW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Probably not that one, but, the general idea.
Yeah, but he is good to go if he doesn´t want to use the Oculus Touch.
The starter kit just needs 2 USB 3.0 I think.
bigwinnerx
Member
Right, that's fair. So don't need that extra USB for a little bit, if ever.
I have a 3570k as well. I think he will do his work.
I would not lose my head on this one.
ShabbadooJr
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If any first wave Oculus owners are having second thoughts, please contact me before cancelling your order.
No, but you can easily refund Steam games, so at least for me - that will encourage me to try things out.
ah, good point.
About this, is he just using the triggers on the controller to interact with the objects and portions of the guns? If so, this could be done with PS Move controllers...
Also, his technique of simply wire-framing the controller at all times is BRILLIANT! I hope that is a standard used in many games...
Melchettsmoustache
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Access, security and safety are, as ever, the main issues. My pals in the Police so I've asked his opinion on the legalities of how I deal with some issues. A staff member would be a necessity as far as I can see and a number of doors and walls containing each area would need erected and closing off private areas of my office space so as not to access my main business.
Hmm this looks like it has legs.
UnrealEck
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I found what might be an update on the latest version of the Oculus Touch controller. (roadtovr)
Seems the Touch is just getting better and better. It looked to me like the old 'half-moon' prototype (with the IR sensors dotted around it) was already a better controller than Vive's wand. Now the improvements they appear to have made to the Touch make it even more appealing.
Seems the Touch is just getting better and better. It looked to me like the old 'half-moon' prototype (with the IR sensors dotted around it) was already a better controller than Vive's wand. Now the improvements they appear to have made to the Touch make it even more appealing.
Frozone
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I just picked up a 5 3.0 USB card that fits my very last PCI-E slot I have. And I'm older than an i5 (i.e. i7-920). At the cost of $30 for that card, I'm going to gamble and see if I can still play these VR games. Pretty much everything else on my system has been upgraded except the MB/CPU. SteamVR test was well in the green for "VR Ready".
artsi
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Yeah, it looks great. Good things come to those who wait, hopefully the release is closer to summer than winter.
OmarTheHippo
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My 3570K scores an 11 on the SteamVR test; 0 dropped frames because of CPU
AwesomeMeat
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Nice article about the latest Touch prototype from RoadToVR.
http://www.roadtovr.com/hands-on-oculus-touch-2016-prototype-brings-refinements-to-an-already-elegant-design/
Seems really favorable.
http://www.roadtovr.com/hands-on-oculus-touch-2016-prototype-brings-refinements-to-an-already-elegant-design/
Seems really favorable.
plagiarize
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I'm not sure anyone has had any doubts about the touch controllers in terms of comfort and build quality, intended use cases etc. Just a question mark over how well they'll work with sensors on opposite sides of the room since Oculus aren't showing them off that way. I have zero doubts about them in a standing / forward facing scenario. I'm optimistic about them with the opposite corner setup but we don't have much info there eitherway.
artsi
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At least the leaker at Reddit says that no problem. The Job Simulator guys said about the same, that opposing camera setup is not recommended officially but it works.
Yeah, I think the consensus was already that the Touch controllers seem to better overall in terms of design and build quality, the main questions are about how much will Oculus push them to be used in games (as they're not the default controller shipping with Rift), how is the occlusion and how late they will be to the party.
plagiarize
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And the all important price tag too of course.
I think the expectation is around $150 from most people, so I don't think there will be surprises there.
plagiarize
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The rift has tracking points on the back of the headset and the lighthouse setup precludes the need for them on the Vive. I've seen zero compliants about head tracking on any of the big three headsets.
Zalusithix
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This first gen of VR certainly leads to a lot of "if only" thoughts. Combine the best aspects of each unit and ditch the rest. Take a Rift with Vive tracking's and FOV. Touch controllers (also with Vive tracking) but with a haptic pad instead of analogs. (Gestures FTW) Oh, and as long as I'm dreaming, a unified VR API.
Sleeping Lesson
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That's pretty much just the Vive. Maybe take the optics from the Rift though.
Ahhh, cool did not know about the Rifts tracking points.
That sounds like the second generation of Vive. Or a slightly improved Vive.
libertytoast
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My friends and I talked about this a good deal, and we think the best thing to call it is VRcade. Got pretty in-depth, in terms of pricing, promotions, and more, but we never could come up with a name better than that.