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The High-end VR Discussion Thread (HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, Playstation VR)
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Couldn't agree more!
Nooooo. Assuming you had one coming before July I totally would have bought it off you + some extra. Oh well
wanderingprostheyltite
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^Heavy breathing. What were your backer numbers? I can almost touch it, we're so close now!
Kickstarter backer?
Yep. I was backer #2080 or so.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Happy to drop you a dozen million if you need some help. lol
cheezcake
Member
I sincerely hope that it isn't, I don't want VR developers to be constrained by that lowest common denominator.
It will be a disaster if this is the case. I have all three headsets on preorder but if they're not completely obsolete in two years then VR has no future. There's just so much that can and must be improved.
Well sure i'd want them to be updated eventually, but isnt two years abit too soon? And as far as the PS5 goes, I guess thats thinking abit too soon anyway with PSVR compatibility since Sony systems usually have a really long life span.
Not at all. There is so much that can and will change that they should be iterating quickly. Gen 1 PSVR won't work on the PS5 because at that time they will hopefully launch PS5 alongside a far superior headset. Being held back by this first headset more than 3 years from now would be awful.
cheezcake
Member
The issue is that when devices are new is when the most rapid technical progression tends to occur, look at the difference in early generations of smartphone compared to the difference between generations we get now.
I fully expect gen 2 hardware to be a big step up from gen 1, and gen 3 will just make it totally obsolete.
Just as a heads-up, pre-orders for Technolust close Friday: https://legacy.trycelery.com/shop/technolust-rift
Apparently we'll get an Oculus store code on the 28th.
Apparently we'll get an Oculus store code on the 28th.
travisbickle
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The headset's a display technology, games aren't held back by people still using 720p TVs.
For the PS5, I think Sony will provide users with a way to plug in the old headset and controllers, only need a camera port. But the new headset will have improved motion tech and will use a Vive-type solution.
cheezcake
Member
VR games are affected by inferior displays, at the moment there are issues with text legibility (the ability to resolve fine details generally), aesthetics are also designed around large objects which are easy to identify. But yeh the issue is mostly the tracking, if they keep support for their current Move tech then devs will tend to design around the LCD as per usual to maximise their target audience. It holds back the technology as a whole.
What's the benefit of pre-ordering instead of just waiting 4 days to buy it?
googleplex
Member
The moSt likely reason a PS5 wouldn't support Gen 1 PSVR is Sony probably have moved on to a totally different positional tracking scheme for PSVR2.0 . Sony will probably have their own version of inside-out positional tracking by then. And Move2.0
It'll likely be a bit more expensive, and in this case the developer takes a better cut of the sale than he will on Oculus Home or Steam.
How long do the red faces last after wearing the vive or OR? That guy on the sofa seemed to have it still after a while. Seems like something you'll need to factor in - can't run out to an appointment straight away without looking really odd.
But how? If they're entirely passive they wouldn't be receiving anything from the host computer to know.
Bluetooth support for shutdown/standby was recently added in a SteamVR update, its only for the consumer version of the Lighthouses, the Pre ones dont have bluetooth radios
Bluetooth support for shutdown/standby was recently added in a SteamVR update, its only for the consumer version of the Lighthouses, the Pre ones dont have bluetooth radios
Nice. Using Bluetooth on the headset or does your PC need to have it?
Probably already mentioned:
Two new SteamVR features - Desktop Overlay and Workshop for SteamVR Backgrounds
Two new SteamVR features - Desktop Overlay and Workshop for SteamVR Backgrounds
I think I'll do the same, I just can't choose between Vive and Rift without knowing how good ( or bad ) the Touch controller will be.
artsi
Member
Well Touch has got pretty much only positive impressions and many seem to prefer it to the Vive controllers, but if you really want motion controls (and roomscale) right now then Vive is the right choice. I don't think you'll regret it either way.
There will probably be also a Rift bundle when they launch Touch, so it might cheaper that way, if you want motion controls in your VR.
Might as well just handle them like regular OTs, no? I don't think any threads that cover more than one game are going to be that useful.
In fact I'd rather we had OTs for individual games and not ones for the individual HMDs.
I think there can be individual OTs, but I get the feel that they will be discussed more in the OT for the hardware. Which kind of make sense, given the whole new experience for everything.
An April VR games thread and individual OTs as and when the need requires? Some of the games don't really warrant a full thread due to the length and VR is going to be small enough at launch without fragmenting the conversation between 5-10 threads.
I'm all for regular OTs, but I think given the sheer volume of releases some will inevitably slip through the cracks (of getting an OT) or drop quickly. It would be useful to have some kind of community thread for VR where we can talk about those, somewhat like talking about more obscure Steam releases in the Steam thread.
Seems like this thread should cover whatever falls through the cracks or doesn't have enough interest for an OT.
*internal screaming*
Considering my GF's reaction to Broodmothers spiderlings in the Secret Shop demo I think she might want to remove my bollocks if I turned this on.
Considering my GF's reaction to Broodmothers spiderlings in the Secret Shop demo I think she might want to remove my bollocks if I turned this on.
Thom Yorke's Wobbly Eye
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Been playing around with my Vive Pre for about a week now and I'm firmly in the camp of "this is it" now. The Vive really is a crude holodeck. Time for me to port my game over to room scale VR I guess!
Can't wait for everyone to dive into proper VR in a few weeks, it's so bloody exciting
Can't wait for everyone to dive into proper VR in a few weeks, it's so bloody exciting
Haha, Custom chaperon walls would be insane. Poltergeist material.
Been playing around with my Vive Pre for about a week now and I'm firmly in the camp of "this is it" now. The Vive really is a crude holodeck. Time for me to port my game over to room scale VR I guess!
Can't wait for everyone to dive into proper VR in a few weeks, it's so bloody exciting
That sounds great!
Im really bored of the same games again and again. I love my WiiU, PS4, PC and Xbox One....but the games didn´t evolve much.
So I ordered Vive. Hope to extend my hobby and get some fresh air.
I really like the Touch controller in itself from the impression I've read; it's really mostly about roomscale, at least allowing it in smaller configuration ( say for Budget Cuts' which need what ? 2m x 2m I think ) that I have my doubts.
If it wasn't for that the Rift would be a no brainer for me since people report less SDE and I really really hate the SDE on my DK2, so the less the better.
If I were more confident in not getting scammed on ebay while selling I would probably buy the rift and the Vive, then Touch, and simply keep the one I prefer, even if it mean selling at a loss.
Thom Yorke's Wobbly Eye
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VR (especially room scale with tracked controllers) pretty much demands that people design things differently. There's going to be some very, very unique and interesting games in VR that simply couldn't exist on a flat screen, especially coupled with the fact that VR is something of a design frontier at the moment. There's going to be a lot of really cool experimental things that couldn't really exist in other mediums.
I could ramble for hours about how excited I am!
BrettWeir
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Not only in gaming, but education and entertainment (outside of games) possibilities are crazy. I'd be all over buying FlickSync's (RPO).
This is what excites me the most about VR. So many possible new experiments. Gaming and beyond gaming.
I was always a graphics whore, because I wanted to be so far immersed as it gets.
Now Im so hyped for VR! I think and hope Vive will give me this kind of immersion I always wanted.
UnrealEck
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Games like PCars, Valkyrie and Elite are kind of making me think I'll still really like a Rift, especially if the optics are superior to Vive. Plus the Touch controller looks superior.
I'm still on the fence really. Rift order is April, Vive is May. I have this feeling Rift might turn out better overall when Touch is out. I also think the larger tracking range of Vive won't matter much due to a lack of games requiring larger room space.
I wonder how much either would sell for second hand around October. I'm guessing maybe about the same as it is now brand new, if there's no price drop by then.
I'm still on the fence really. Rift order is April, Vive is May. I have this feeling Rift might turn out better overall when Touch is out. I also think the larger tracking range of Vive won't matter much due to a lack of games requiring larger room space.
I wonder how much either would sell for second hand around October. I'm guessing maybe about the same as it is now brand new, if there's no price drop by then.
Definitely going to pick this up.
If you're not Canadian, you can take advantage of the exchange rate for the weak CAD. Once on Oculus' store it'll be in US dollars.