Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Del Toro was supposedly very interested in exploring the Necromancer's
Sauron's
Case in point:
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Case in point:
I honestly expected this to end up in developmental hell.
I think Peter Jackson just realized in his heart that this property was essentially his responsibility and he just finally gave in.
He was like Frodo with the ring. He went to Council, wanted someone else to take the burden and just go home, but in the end realized he had no choice.
God, just hearing that quote while the dwarf song is playing makes my skin grow goosebumps. It's truly a great time to be a nerd.
I actually completely agree with this analogy & analysis.
So I'm watching Fellowship of the Ring.
I don't think I've actually seen this movie all the way through since it was in theaters. I don't think I've seen any of them start to finish since they were in theaters. I've seen bits and pieces here and there when they've been on TV, but that's it.
I figured I should probably watch them again before The Hobbit. Saw the blu-rays for $10 each, and figured now was a pretty good time.
...And you know what? I don't know if you guys know this, but this is a goddamn amazing movie.
Oh hey, it's over. Time to put in Two Towers!
I don't think I've actually seen this movie all the way through since it was in theaters. I don't think I've seen any of them start to finish since they were in theaters. I've seen bits and pieces here and there when they've been on TV, but that's it.
I figured I should probably watch them again before The Hobbit. Saw the blu-rays for $10 each, and figured now was a pretty good time.
...And you know what? I don't know if you guys know this, but this is a goddamn amazing movie.
Oh hey, it's over. Time to put in Two Towers!
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
You gotta get those Extended Editions, though! The transfers are about 10x better as well.
Has Peter Jackson talked about his planned new Extended Editions of the LOTR Blu-rays? I remember him talking that he'd like to do the EEs properly for Blu-ray (new extras & shit, not just the old DVD ones included). I don't think there'd be new scenes or anything, but it'd kind of be like the Alien Anthology collection released some time ago, like _TEH ULTIMATE LOTR EE TRILOGY_, instead of the minimum effort collection we got now (extras are on DVDs etc.).
Is that still happening or should I just cave in and buy the ones that are out now.
Is that still happening or should I just cave in and buy the ones that are out now.
lastplayed
Member
We went to a special screening of The Two Towers Extended Edition here in Christchurch last night. We had a huge screen, no advertisements, a screening of The Hobbit trailer (first time I've seen it on the big screen) and a special recorded intro by Peter Jackson on the set of The Hobbit thanking us for coming and spent about ten mins telling us about making TTT. It was quite a nice night, and strangely personal in contrast to the often corporate and faceless Hollywood machine.
Kilgore Trout
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Like Scullibundo said, you have to watch the Extended Editions. The Lotr have been some of my favorite movies since I saw them in theaters and I got all of the extended editions a year or two later. Having watched the theatrical version of Return of the King when it released on blu-ray, I kind of felt that it wasn't that great - by comparison, anyway. The story felt uneven, rushed and packed with too many climaxes without enough padding to give the audience some rest. There really is that much of a difference between the versions. When I watched the extended version afterward, I felt my heartstrings plucked in all of the moments when they should have been, but during the original version they weren't nearly as affecting.
I caved in when the set was on sale for $50 a few months ago and I think it was completely worth it. I was planning on waiting for the inevitable super ultimate edition like you, but the increase in quality is so great that I'm completely satisfied even if said edition comes out 2 years from now. I don't think there are any other movies I would be willing to rebuy so many times.
AdventureRacing
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I think their are a few scenes in the extended editions that actually detract from the movies. There is some stuff that i felt should have definitely stayed in though (like the extended stuff with boromir and faramir).
The only things from the Extended Editions that I would take out are in RotK. Mostly the scenes that present Gimli as comic relief. Actually, the whole scene where they escape from the cave and there's all those skulls was unnecessary, I think.
Edmond Dantès;36776983 said:
Mmm... gives me chills just because it would touch on the Silmarillion which honestly has zero chance of being produced any other way. I guess it's better that way, I can't see them living up to my imagination, especially
Melkor and Ungoliant destroying the Two Trees. The Balrogs aiding their master and scourging the Mother of Spiders. The Siege of Angband.
Probably better we don't do that on film.
I assumed that the scenes with Frodo and Bilbo at the beginning of the movie would act as the prologue (since those were shown in the trailer, I don't think it's a spoiler at this point).
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Eagle-eyed members of The One Ring have spotted what looks like
Thror and his wife
Azog and Dain
Battle of Azanulbizar
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
I am quite curious as to what they were filming here (from the very end of the last production video):
It's clearly a dwarf of some kind...and the markers on the helmet indicate some sort of eventual digital enhancements...interesting.
Could well be flaming horns on his battle helmet. I wouldn't put it past the production team to come up with something that adds a unique touch to the dwarves and their armour.
It could also be the production team referencing the Firebeards.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Digital flames does not sound likely. Seems like something that they would go practical on.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
^^
???
The transfers might be, but the films aren't. Well, I'll give you TTT as a film bettered by the EE, but FOTR and ROTK? Nope. Better in their theatrical cuts. FOTR especially. Best in the trilogy and the best cut of it is the theatrical cut.
bengraven
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Edmond Dantès;36783967 said:
Holy crap @ your second spoiler. That's one of my favorite parts of the appendixes and I'd love to see that conflict done up onscreen.
YOU'VE GONE TOO FAR THIS TIME, SOLO.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I think the EE of RotK is definitely better.
As for FotR, I think the EE ruins the introduction to the shire (which is a lot of added nonsense), but that once they leave the Shire, every added scene adds a lot to the film. The background stuff for Boromir and his interactions with Aragorn in Galadriel's domain especially. Also stuff like Sam and Frodo seeing the Elves leaving Middle Earth are really, really nice scenes.
But yes, the EE of FotR butchers the opening of the film by adding something like fifteen minutes of nonsense.
In the ROTK DVD commentary Jackson talked about how there's still some scenes that weren't in the extended editions, like extra stuff in the ending with Legolas and Gimli going to the gilittering caves. He said that he may someday have to release a super amazing extended edition that has everything..I think he was joking though.
timetokill
Banned
Boromir's background was the sorest spot for me. Those scenes were critical in my eyes. They helped take him from what seemed like a plainly villainous character to one that was a lot more well-rounded, that had good intentions and was truly corrupted by the promise of the Ring. He wanted it for the right reasons, not realizing the power was corrupting him all the same.
The fact that they not only cut that part out but made Aragorn even MORE "perfect" by him turning down the ring in the way he did only made matters worse.
Goddamn, it sucked when people cheered Boromir's death in the theatres
The fact that they not only cut that part out but made Aragorn even MORE "perfect" by him turning down the ring in the way he did only made matters worse.
Goddamn, it sucked when people cheered Boromir's death in the theatres
Goddamn, it sucked when people cheered Boromir's death in the theatres
.... They what?
Edmond Dantès
Dantès the White
Who on earth would cheer after this?Boromir's background was the sorest spot for me. Those scenes were critical in my eyes. They helped take him from what seemed like a plainly villainous character to one that was a lot more well-rounded, that had good intentions and was truly corrupted by the promise of the Ring. He wanted it for the right reasons, not realizing the power was corrupting him all the same.
The fact that they not only cut that part out but made Aragorn even MORE "perfect" by him turning down the ring in the way he did only made matters worse.
Goddamn, it sucked when people cheered Boromir's death in the theatres
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcHhlcxUkP4
timetokill
Banned
I'm dead serious. I saw Fellowship 9 times in theatres. It happened on several occasions. :\
They tended to cheer when he got hit with the arrows as opposed to when Aragorn is talking to him after.
They tended to cheer when he got hit with the arrows as opposed to when Aragorn is talking to him after.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
I'm guessing you live in the U.S? I will never understand the cinema audiences there.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I'm thinking of buying the EE versions on BD. If so, it'll be the only movies I have three different versions of (theatrical DVD, EE DVD and BD DVD). And it would still be worth it.
timetokill
Banned
Yeah.
Sometimes a rowdy audience can be fun, but here it was just clear that people saw Boromir as a villain as opposed to it being a tragic flaw for an otherwise Good character. They didn't see the Ring corrupting, they just saw a Bad Guy because they didn't get enough backstory to show the kind of situation and pressure he was under.
Demoncarnotaur
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Its honestly just our culture, and its lack of an ability to deal with things higher than a black and white level. It seems like people over here are usually a little lacking when it comes to complexity of emotions and open thinking. Its frustrating. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone here, but it has been getting worse over recent years. Haha ah well.
That said, when I saw Fellowship nothing like this happened.
Yep, same here. Things like this seem to be isolated incidences. This is not something that happens every time we go the theater
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Yep, same here. Things like this seem to be isolated incidences. This is not something that happens every time we go the theater
It is something that happened quite often when I went to the theatre while living in the U.S. Unless I went somewhere like The Arclight.
timetokill
Banned
I'll chime in to say it doesn't always happen to me either. Could've been because I was often going to a theatre where a lot of other teens were going, and generally teens are the most likely to be loud in my experience. It was a theatre at a popular outdoor mall that I saw it at most of the time.
And sometimes the loud experience is what you go for. I saw Snakes on a Plane at midnight and the audience made it an absolute riot. Same with Grindhouse, where the audience really got into the scenes at appropriate times. Then again Grindhouse style stuff is pretty uniquely American from what I understand anyway.
And sometimes the loud experience is what you go for. I saw Snakes on a Plane at midnight and the audience made it an absolute riot. Same with Grindhouse, where the audience really got into the scenes at appropriate times. Then again Grindhouse style stuff is pretty uniquely American from what I understand anyway.
Demoncarnotaur
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It honestly depends on the city/state/theater. I have a new theater I have been going to lately that is both really nice in quality and crowds.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
What?
That scene was so awesome and heartbreaking.
Dumbasses. Glad I didn't experience that when I saw Fellowship in theaters, would have totally ruined the mood.
lastplayed
Member
What about at the end of each movie, did people clap and cheer then too? They always did here in NZ, maybe it's the "we made this!" attitude, or maybe not.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Do what ever you want at the very end of a movie. I don't care. But yelling at the screen and cheering/clapping in the middle of a film that isn't a comedy pisses me off to no end.
Demoncarnotaur
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Agreed. Only time I saw it happen and it didn't bug me was the "you bitch" scene in HP. Still, its unbelievably distracting and annoying.
Neffarias_Bredd
Member
I saw Cinderella Man with a crowd that cheered during each fight like it was a real boxing match...made for one of my favorite theater experiences ever.
That said, cheering during Boromir's death would piss me off
That said, cheering during Boromir's death would piss me off
bengraven
Member
Yeah, it wasn't nearly as popular as Into The West and May It Be. Maybe because it wasn't nominated for best song, or maybe it took too long for the actual song to kick in during the credits. That is a very long intro.
It's my favorite of the three, as I said earlier this week.
Edit: also, was originally going to be Bjork singing this, but she bowed out and suggested Emiliana due to being a fellow Icelander. Apparently not because they have similar voices. ha
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Edmond Dantès;36796460 said:
And a scene that is so much better with just one simple line of dialogue added into the extended edition.
Seriously, who the frak would cheer at that death? It was the most tragic one. I just always felt horrible for Boromir. He wanted to do well and please his father, and save his people. But his will was not strong enough to withstand the Ring.
Razgriz-Specter
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Yep, same here. Things like this seem to be isolated incidences. This is not something that happens every time we go the theater
Yeah only time I ever recall something like that was the Tumbler chase in Batman Begins, one or two things in Fast Five and the Nightmare on elm street remake and I go to the movies about every week or so.
the nightmare thing actually made it more enjoyable 'bitch don't go in there!!!' 'oh. he dead..' 'behind you!' then those same people jumping and screaming, hilarious
though just about every 'great' movie is applauded at the end.
Very surprised at the EE talk on the last page of this topic. I thought it was consensus that the FOTR EE improved on the theatrical quite a bit, but the EE for Two Towers and RotK were worse than the theatrical cuts.
That's been my stance, anyway. The 15 minutes of Shire stuff Sculli was hating on is one of my favorite parts of the movie :/
FotR > TT > RotK
Fellowship is the only movie of the trilogy that I consider a truly great film. I've watched it over, and over (and over). It just has such a strong spirit of adventure. The sequels are just loud and the split storylines, while not the film's fault, make them less interesting to sit through.
That's been my stance, anyway. The 15 minutes of Shire stuff Sculli was hating on is one of my favorite parts of the movie :/
FotR > TT > RotK
Fellowship is the only movie of the trilogy that I consider a truly great film. I've watched it over, and over (and over). It just has such a strong spirit of adventure. The sequels are just loud and the split storylines, while not the film's fault, make them less interesting to sit through.
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