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[kagete]

Wow it looks like you all had fun (without me). I guess I should play less, since my team has more success that way :O

The diminishing returns are a little weird, but there are PROs and CONs for either argument for/against it. A tweak might be necessary, but the sample size is too small. Right now we only really need a few things:

1- Get more league games going, even with turncoats
> This is a bit harder now that we have a lot of new guys and its great to have casual IH games but we just need to keep playing and hopefully we'll see some trends that we can maybe address in the future.

2- Keep the stats updated to give more visibility
> Perhaps procarbine can delegate this or do it wiki/google doc style. We're already spoiled by HON's stat tracking so seeing our league stats update faster will be much appreciated and will motivate people to play more.

 

[Procarbine]

I've read your concerns and I understand them, like Kag said, I think the sample size is too small to make any sweeping point changes. Alumnus is right in that it's everyone's league, not mine, I'm just trying to facilitate GAF playing together as IH used to be very uncommon.

Updating stats now.

 

[FromTheFuture]

I've read your concerns and I understand them, like Kag said, I think the sample size is too small to make any sweeping point changes. Alumnus is right in that it's everyone's league, not mine, I'm just trying to facilitate GAF playing together as IH used to be very uncommon.

Updating stats now.

I suppose that, at least for now, you just make the values 5-4-3-2-1. There isn't really any need to cut the points even moreso at the third game and not in any other. Having a straight scale downward seems fine enough in the mean time.

 

[Meteorain]

So at the end of it both the winner and the loser get 1 point each. What a glorious distinction for putting the effort in to win.

 

[FromTheFuture]

So at the end of it both the winner and the loser get 1 point each. What a glorious distinction for putting the effort in to win.

Yeah, that's actually quite ridiculous. I think the best way to do it would be to make it every other game, and cap it at like two or three. As in 5-5-4-4-3-3-2-2... and every game beyond that is 2 points. Hell, even 5-5-4-3-3-2... or a variant. Either way, I think something needs to be done about it. I don't want players to feel the need to not only beat the other team, but to have a strategy for beating the system as well.

 

[Trasher]

I still can't get on Mumble...

 

[Anbokr]

Has anyone really won 5 games in a row yet against the same team? Really, I mean by the 5th consecutive win against the same team, it's such a stomp points don't even matter (although I still think diminishing returns should cap at 3).

 

[Procarbine]

I switched it to 5-4-3-2-2-2-2-2...

Stats posted: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28926586&postcount=2

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

As long as no one throws a game I think it should be fine.

 

[Meeru]

Team kag has probably the best team lineup.

 

[jeremy70583]

Wanted to appologize to my team for game 4...by the time that game got around...I was well...drunk. Sorry for my terrible performance

 

[kagete]

Team nerd has probably the best team of tryhards.

Fixed!

 

[NukeDukem]

Thank you Team Oceanic for letting me win my first (and probably last) game as slither.

 

[loki_demi]

lmfao you go team tryhards!

 

[kagete]

Team tryhard lost a match last night, where's the update?

 

[Sanjay]

I watched some replays of our teams game and I realised we have such bad positioning in team fights.

Match ID
http://i52.tinypic.com/igynp2.png

Team fight one

Team fight two

 

[Procarbine]

Team tryhard lost a match last night, where's the update?

I'm going to update afternoons/evenings when I get home from work for the previous day's games.

Stats updated: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=28926586&postcount=2

Also: Notice to players that have not played a game: You have until this weekend to either play or make an effort to play, meaning log in, tell people you want to play IHL and see what happens. Players that do not do these things will be removed and replaced with active players.

Players in danger: Lokey, Frallan, Pasty

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Post match results in the OP.

 

[Procarbine]

Match Result: Team Oceanic v Team Kagete

Winner:

Spoiler

you know it's gotta be Team Oceanic

Sorry for the quality, SSed it from the vod since stats are down now or something.

Do you guys want all these images in the OP? I feel like that would get to be a bit excessive. Maybe I'll do most recent match? That sounds like a good idea.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Maybe make a Google Docs spreadsheet with matches and results? I keep forgetting I have images disabled.

 

[nara]

yes google docs+1

 

[PillowKnight]

Match Result: Team Oceanic v Team Kagete

Winner:

Spoiler

you know it's gotta be Team Oceanic

Sorry for the quality, SSed it from the vod since stats are down now or something.

Do you guys want all these images in the OP? I feel like that would get to be a bit excessive. Maybe I'll do most recent match? That sounds like a good idea.

Was this AR? Team kageet not really living up to its name.

 

[Conceptor]

Was this AR? Team kageet not really living up to its name.

IIRC, it was SD.

 

[Anbokr]

We gotta get some games going bros. Seems like team meeru is dead without meeru and team kag/oceanic are never online at the same time.

 

[IceMarker]

Maybe if we had set times rather than "play whenever the fuck you're on" this league would get going more often.

 

[Meeru]

Can i propose something?

No teams. Just have captains. Whenever we start an ihl we just pick the players available in a 1-2-2-2 fashion.

reward players for joining ihl games etc.

 

[nara]

Can i propose something?

No teams. Just have captains. Whenever we start an ihl we just pick the players available in a 1-2-2-2 fashion.

reward players for joining ihl games etc.

+1

We play a lot of inhouses. And this is how ihl is supposed to be. Get good enough to be picked. Get good enough to be captain. Get good enough to be recognized.

Sigh I wish we had bots.

 

[Meeru]

like we do a lot of ih but we cant do ihl because theres always someone missing. Of course we will have to figure out a way to give the reward since now we will have 30+ gaffers to deal with..

 

[nara]

I just feel the infrastructure is loose since we are not using an automated bot system. !create sd good times

 

[Anbokr]

Can i propose something?

No teams. Just have captains. Whenever we start an ihl we just pick the players available in a 1-2-2-2 fashion.

reward players for joining ihl games etc.

What happens when there aren't captains on, but a ton of players? And then there's always the disappointment that comes with being in the channel or online, but not being picked or being picked last.

 

[bzm]

What happens when there aren't captains on, but a ton of players? And then there's always the disappointment that comes with being in the channel or online, but not being picked or being picked last.

I always liked the idea of having an irc bot, and just being able to .challenge [name] and then enter the player drafting if that person accepts

 

[Meeru]

What happens when there aren't captains on, but a ton of players? And then there's always the disappointment that comes with being in the channel or online, but not being picked or being picked last.

You can always cut off at the first 10 people who accept to play an ihl. There will be people who will get picked last, but better than not being picked at all.

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Can i propose something?

No teams. Just have captains. Whenever we start an ihl we just pick the players available in a 1-2-2-2 fashion.

reward players for joining ihl games etc.

I kind of agree. Last night I played two IH games but there weren't enough captains on (I believe kageet was on but no one else).

 

[nara]

I always liked the idea of having an irc bot, and just being able to .challenge [name] and then enter the player drafting if that person accepts

+1

 

[Procarbine]

There will not be any sweeping changes made to IHL this season. The idea behind the teams was to give the not as good players in GAF a reason to be interested in this, rather than just being left behind. With the proposed idea, it would just be the same captains picking the best players and people being left out.

If you guys want to make an IRC bot for next season, feel free, I'm way too lazy.

 

[nara]

anyone willing to make GAFIHL mirc bot? one with complete separate stats from hon?

 

[Meeru]

I'll be available 2-5pm tomorrow. Let's get some ihl games going.

 

[nara]

I'll be available 2-5pm tomorrow. Let's get some ihl games going.

meeru u remind me of the boy who cried wolf ROFL AMIRITE

 

[mrbagdt]

you can remove me from the IHL listing, i havnt even made a game yet and i can only play pick up games whenever i have the opportunity to get online. if the IHL switched to no teams just captains, i wouldnt have to stress about not making it. i feel like by being on a team but not being available to participate right now, i am preventing other people that ARE online the opportunity to play in the league.

i got married around the same time as meeru and the adjustments to my gaming schedule have been tricky thus far!

 

[nara]

you can remove me from the IHL listing, i havnt even made a game yet and i can only play pick up games whenever i have the opportunity to get online. if the IHL switched to no teams just captains, i wouldnt have to stress about not making it. i feel like by being on a team but not being available to participate right now, i am preventing other people that ARE online the opportunity to play in the league.

i got married around the same time as meeru and the adjustments to my gaming schedule have been tricky thus far!

+1. captains, and have them choose members to be on their team. so much better

 

[Meeru]

you can remove me from the IHL listing, i havnt even made a game yet and i can only play pick up games whenever i have the opportunity to get online. if the IHL switched to no teams just captains, i wouldnt have to stress about not making it. i feel like by being on a team but not being available to participate right now, i am preventing other people that ARE online the opportunity to play in the league.

i got married around the same time as meeru and the adjustments to my gaming schedule have been tricky thus far!

congrats. so have you tried playing while your wife is present? how does she respond?

 

[mrbagdt]

congrats. so have you tried playing while your wife is present? how does she respond?

well... the fact that you cant just step away from HON in the middle of a game if she wants to talk about something or needs me to do something is the hardest thing. something that is somewhat unique to RTS-style games i guess. if im playing BC2 i can just not respawn or just leave a game at any moment, but with HON that means im giving up usually at least an hour where it is difficult for me to do anything else. she'll never get 'into' the game and find it interesting- the gap is to huge. i have gotten her to play 'might and magic: clash of heroes' on PSN so that is about as successful as i think i am going to be.

i get home around 4:30 or 5:00, and with all the other real-life things to do in my evenings (dinner, housework, yardwork, church, bjj) stealing 1-2 hours out of there on most nights leads to some quality griefing.

 

[Procarbine]

Players being dropped from IHL:

Cerepol, Frallan6k, mrbagdt, PastyMF, Lokey, Kapura

This leaves:

2 spots on team Oceanic
2 spots on team Kagettetete
1 spot on team Meeru

Going to confer with you guys in mumble/in game to find the appropriate replacement players.

 

[PasteyMF]

Went away for a few days and I never seem to be on when IHL happens. Blah. Really wanted to be a part of this. I wish there could've been designated times to play. Oh well.

+1 to Meeru's suggestion.

 

[jasonng]

Damn HoNgaf filling up the mumble server.

 

[Archie]

(<-- Powerslave)

I'd like to be a replacement if possible.

 

[Procarbine]

Went away for a few days and I never seem to be on when IHL happens. Blah. Really wanted to be a part of this. I wish there could've been designated times to play. Oh well.

+1 to Meeru's suggestion.

If you want to stay in that's fine, just communicate with your team and get on. Will you be available to play? If so I won't remove you.

Damn HoNgaf filling up the mumble server.

Sorry jason/stargaf :X The old mumble server still exists, you guys can use that if were overflowing.

I'll update stats when I get home from work.

 

[kagete]

Went away for a few days and I never seem to be on when IHL happens. Blah. Really wanted to be a part of this. I wish there could've been designated times to play. Oh well.

+1 to Meeru's suggestion.

Welcome back. The designated times are tricky, like last night where we started playing around 11:30 PM EDT.

 

[Procarbine]

Matches from last night:

Team Oceanic v Team Kagete

Winner:

Spoiler

....Team Kagete....

Team Oceanic v Team Meeru

Winner:

Spoiler

.....Team Oceanic..

Team Oceanic v Team Meeru

Winner:

Spoiler

........Team Oceanic......

Stats will be updated shortly.

 

[Neckbeard]

Figures... the one night I decided to play RIFT instead....