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The HoNGAF IHL Thread of Walking the Road of Vengeance

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Of all the times for my internet connection to start stuttering, it would have to be when the games are being played.
 

Sanjay

Member
Game 3 Winner
Team Hellbourne (Team Oceanic)
Team Kagete vs Team Oceanic
1o90ew.png
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
I really think losses should give a team 1 point instead of -1 point. Minusing points just discourages people from playing, and also kind of motivates a team to wait for their best to come online. Giving 3 points for wins and 1 point for a loss just straight up encourages games to be played (kinda like how tmm works, you still get a couple coins out of a loss).

And 3 points is just more fun than 1 point (that's why the world cup and a lot of tournaments give 3); would you rather see a leaderboard that's like 3,2,1,1,0 or 15,12,7,4.
 

Meeru

Banned
Anbokr said:
I really think losses should give a team 1 point instead of -1 point. Minusing points just discourages people from playing, and also kind of motivates a team to wait for their best to come online. Giving 3 points for wins and 1 point for a loss just straight up encourages games to be played (kinda like how tmm works, you still get a couple coins out of a loss).

And 3 points is just more fun than 1 point (that's why the world cup and a lot of tournaments give 3); would you rather see a leaderboard that's like 3,2,1,1,0 or 15,12,7,4.
sounds like a good idea.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Puppetyuber = the anti-meeru??? Carries a losing team with a VACATION dampeer against a farmed swiftblade and warbeast, holy crap O_O.
 

kagete

Member
Sanjay said:
Game 3 Winner
Team Hellbourne (Team Oceanic)
Team Kagete vs Team Oceanic
1o90ew.png

"I don't always shit the bed, but when I do, I choose a carry in an official IHL game" -myself


"80 percent of success is just showing up" - some guy who's obviously never played competitive anything

members of my fine team that showed up to play last night : 8
number of games we played to show for it : 1
number of games we won :
it doesn't matter because this IHL is all about friendship and polite interactions between gentlemen who share a common hobby

Standings (points):
[S2]Meeru - 6
Brazilians - 5
Gentlemen of HON - 1
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Hey guys, sorry I didn't post stats last night, massive thunderstorm showed up and knocked out cable/internet. At work now, posting stats when I get home along with updated point info.

OP edited with vod links.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
I really want to see a team kaghetti vs team meeru, should be interesting (I think puppet can give meeru a run for his money at mid). Team kaghetti had about 6-8 people on all day yesterday, sadly the other teams had about 3.
 

Meeru

Banned
Anbokr said:
I really want to see a team kaghetti vs team meeru, should be interesting (I think puppet can give meeru a run for his money at mid). Team kaghetti had about 6-8 people on all day yesterday, sadly the other teams had about 3.
Yeah he fbed me with Kraken when I was Aluna :3
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
^ is also why I think 1 point should be given to the losing team. Seriously, who is going to want to play team meeru when they have those 5 on (that ship has no holes, hell it doesn't even have a crack)? It's a guaranteed minus point/15 minute concede (unless you have sufxgosupro--which means you have to start benching people).
 

kagete

Member
I'd like to give props to my team for sticking through these 4 games. Puppet, Pillow, Alum, ulcajun, Lone_Prodigy too.

Rape is never justified, but we've shown that with the proper support, kind words, and camaraderie, we can actually recover. There were times that I wanted to give up right in the middle of things but we persevered and can now go back to living our lives.
 

Meeru

Banned
Very sorry on the last game..but well..she woke up and saw me..so now I feel like the criminal toward everyone.
 

delirium

Member
Meeru said:
Very sorry on the last game..but well..she woke up and saw me..so now I feel like the criminal toward everyone.
Naw, its fine Meeru. I mean, its just a casual league.

I mean, I'll tease you about it, but I mean if you have to go, you have to go.
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Internet is still down at home, might not be back until monday because my providers are douchebags.

With regard to teams and points: I'm going to try to work out a formula for points gained from a win based on point differential. I'm not going to be on mumble any time soon, so any "glaring issues" ought to just be posted here. I don't have much time at work to look at this stuff while at work, but I'll look when I can.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
I think like kag said yesterday: the only way team meeru would ever be considered balanced on any planet is if they play some games without meeru--which I don't see happening with minusing individual points for losses and the current system (theirs just no motivation not to play without him, sure many may say otherwise, but when the time comes I suspect we'll have lots of "i g2g" or "sry cant play"). As we saw yesterday, it kinda forces you to bench players or wait for your best to come online.

I get that the individual minus points were supposed to keep down the people that were the most active, but at the same time--I don't see the good in that. Should the people that play 1 or 2 games really be on the top of the leaderboard, and the guy with -2 points be at the bottom for actually playing 7 games with his team?

Edit: did no one post the very last game? Team kag must not want free points xD.

EDit 2: @pro: people were complaining yesterday about playing the same 5 people over and over again. To me, I felt like with 11 on a team, it would make for some switcheroos and good variety within a team. But like I said above, with the way things have went, people are only encouraged to play with their best 5 (and the fact that no team aside from team kag has had over 7 or 8 players on at one time).
 

Sanjay

Member
Anbokr said:
Meeru is op.

Gank that mofo! Pick hero's with easy stuns.

Perfect example is this game:-

meeruvskag-1.jpg


A flying DR with PK's on Polly and Magmus with Witch lttp, ouch. A team full of disables.
 
This was Game 4 if anyone actually cares about it. Thought I'd post it regardless of whether or not it is legitimate.

Winner:
Team Kagete
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Meeru

Banned
It was enjoyable playing against team kagete. Although I wish I stayed through the end in game 4 (or just stopped after game 3).
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Well I've been hearing rumors of a built-in HoN IHL system--dunno if it's even true though or if it will be hosted by s2 only for the most competitive players. I feel like it's the latter though. It would be freakin' sweet though if the game engine itself took care of all the IHL stats, points, and other stuff.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Wooooooooooooo!

Time to sleep now but when I wake up I'm going to study the shit out of ERWIN's Tremble.
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Hey everybody, internet was fixed today so I'm back. I'll be on mumble this afternoon/tonight to hear your concerns, but for the time being I'm implementing a rework in points.

From the edited OP:

Team and player points will be tracked independently, in order to see which players have participated/contributed the most.

Teams will be awarded 5 points for a win, and one point for a loss. Consecutive wins against the same team will have diminishing returns: 5 points for the first, 4 for the second, 2 for the third, and one for every game after.

Win streaks will carry a bounty for the team that breaks them. 1 point will be given for breaking a 3 game streak, and an additional point given for every win past 3. So 2 points for 4, 3 points for 5, etc.

Players will be awarded 3 points for a win, and 1 point for a loss. Player K/D/A and total games played will also be tracked for awards purposes. That's right, man up.

When playing on another team and winning, details below, players will receive a turncoat point.

Let's see how this goes for this season, I don't want to implement sweeping changes after people have already started playing games. Closing date for season 1 of GAF IHL is set for September 1st. After this everything is open to change, but until then let's try to adapt to this system and make things work.
 

Meeru

Banned
Nice spreadsheet, if u use google doc spreadsheet u can update it on the fly and also embed to forum(thanks azuki)
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Yo pro, what's the points system for the players? And how do team meeru and team kag have more than 18 points despite having 6 games player?
 

Procarbine

Forever Platinum
Halycon said:
Yo pro, what's the points system for the players? And how do team meeru and team kag have more than 18 points despite having 6 games player?

Team and player points will be tracked independently, in order to see which players have participated/contributed the most.

Teams will be awarded 5 points for a win, and one point for a loss. Consecutive wins against the same team will have diminishing returns: 5 points for the first, 4 for the second, 2 for the third, and one for every game after.

Win streaks will carry a bounty for the team that breaks them. 1 point will be given for breaking a 3 game streak, and an additional point given for every win past 3. So 2 points for 4, 3 points for 5, etc.

Players will be awarded 3 points for a win, and 1 point for a loss. Player K/D/A and total games played will also be tracked for awards purposes. That's right, man up.

When playing on another team and winning, details below, players will receive a turncoat point.

Highlighted portions of above post should answer your questions.
 
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