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[la_briola]

Fucking Fins, always drinking.

That was a great video with/about Matumbaman.

 

[Technosteve]

he's getting enough work as it is, and i doubt his job pays well enough to afford something like that

Amazon.com should buy him

 

[Sibylus]

Akke and LODA will be 29 next TI. Almost too old I would say.

Would be a major factor in a game like Starcraft where both micro and macro heavily physically depend on the condition of your hands and arms. Less so in Dota.

 

[scarybore]

Don't remember Matumba playing ember since around the time they failed to qualify for Frankfurt. Not sold on Liquids draft sadly.

 

[Fevaweva]

Would be a major factor in a game like Starcraft where both micro and macro heavily physically depend on the condition of your hands and arms. Less so in Dota.

Yeah I guess so. We'll see. I can see them getting injured Fear style though.

 

[demosthenes]

Would be a major factor in a game like Starcraft where both micro and macro heavily physically depend on the condition of your hands and arms. Less so in Dota.

Yea, Polt I think is the oldest SC2 player that can still compete and put up results and even in the last couple of tournaments he hasn't been as strong as he usually is. He's 28.

Anyway, LET'S GO TL!

 

[shira]

Kpii mid. Oh gee

 

[Chris R]

Only one chest today so far

 

[yagal]

Yeah I guess so. We'll see. I can see them getting injured Fear style though.

Again they are 28 not 65, and the injury of Fear is much likely not related to his age

 

[KingKong]

Again they are 28 not 65, and the injury of Fear is much likely not related to his age

Ah gotcha. Jerking off too much

 

[Lucumo]

K-God playing godlike so far.

 

[Visualante2]

Are any of these "all stars" going to be left in the tournament by tomorrow night's special event?

 

[Sibylus]

Keep it up Liquid!

 

[iamblades]

Would be a major factor in a game like Starcraft where both micro and macro heavily physically depend on the condition of your hands and arms. Less so in Dota.

I think even in SC the whole 'you have to be a teenager to be good in esports' is largely an artifact about esports still being relatively undeveloped. I mean Boxer was active in SC into his 30s, even with injuries.

Both in terms of in-game strategies(which is where older players make up for their slower reflexes) and in terms of health management and injury prevention/rehab.

Then there is the factor that until very very recently the economics of esports pretty much forced most players out early because they had to find a way to make a living(even in Korea), or they had to dedicate time to school or etc.

With a more professional practice and coaching system(so players don't have to play 18 hours a day to improve), with more money to retain talent and more money to pay for treatment and rehab etc, players will start remaining competitive longer and longer, I expect.

 

[demosthenes]

I think even in SC the whole 'you have to be a teenager to be good in esports' is largely an artifact about esports still being relatively undeveloped. I mean Boxer was active in SC into his 30s, even with injuries.

Both in terms of in-game strategies(which is where older players make up for their slower reflexes) and in terms of health management and injury prevention/rehab.

Then there is the factor that until very very recently the economics of esports pretty much forced most players out early because they had to find a way to make a living(even in Korea), or they had to dedicate time to school or etc.

With a more professional practice and coaching system(so players don't have to play 18 hours a day to improve), with more money to retain talent and more money to pay for treatment and rehab etc, players will start remaining competitive longer and longer, I expect.

That's an exageration on Boxer though. Yes, he played but he was great when he was 20 and fell off by 25. But even when you're as good as he was, when you fall off you're still pretty great and can still play and do well from time to time but that doesn't mean he could compete with the best anymore.

 

[Sibylus]

I think even in SC the whole 'you have to be a teenager to be good in esports' is largely an artifact about esports still being relatively undeveloped. I mean Boxer was active in SC into his 30s, even with injuries.

Both in terms of in-game strategies(which is where older players make up for their slower reflexes) and in terms of health management and injury prevention/rehab.

Then there is the factor that until very very recently the economics of esports pretty much forced most players out early because they had to find a way to make a living(even in Korea), or they had to dedicate time to school or etc.

With a more professional practice and coaching system(so players don't have to play 18 hours a day to improve), with more money to retain talent and more money to pay for treatment and rehab etc, players will start remaining competitive longer and longer, I expect.

Well put. There will still be things like non-standard carpal tunnel (hereditary) that are difficult to treat with surgery, but better posture and rehab accounts for a lot.

 

[Gav47]

Kunnka is officially meta, what a time to be alive.

 

[KingKong]

Naga games are the worst

 

[iamblades]

That's an exageration on Boxer though. Yes, he played but he was great when he was 20 and fell off by 25. But even when you're as good as he was, when you fall off you're still pretty great and can still play and do well from time to time but that doesn't mean he could compete with the best anymore.

That's with injuries and years off to military service, and it was before the scene was professionalized to the degree it is these days, much less how it will be in the future.

Not saying we are going to start seeing 40+ esports stars, but I see no reason why players can't have similar length careers to pro tennis players(being that Tennis is a sport with similar hand-eye coordination and reflex requirements), with the top players being able to maintain reasonable success into their early thirties, but most players fading out in their mid-late 20s.

 

[demosthenes]

That's with injuries and years off to military service, and it was before the scene was professionalized to the degree it is these days, much less how it will be in the future.

Not saying we are going to start seeing 40+ sports stars, but I see no reason why players can't have similar length careers to pro tennis players(being that Tennis is a sport with similar hand-eye coordination and reflex requirements), with the top players being able to maintain reasonable success into their early thirties, but most players fading out in their mid-late 20s.

I hope you're right, I would welcome it.

 

[Visualante2]

Naga games are the worst

Both of the series have been pretty boring. Hope the upper bracket games are better.

 

[Twookie]

hey liquid what are ye doin

 

[bbd23]

Both of the series have been pretty boring. Hope the upper bracket games are better.

aggression vs aggression and USA vs China

it will be 1000x better

 

[Sibylus]

Big streaks going the way of Newbee, worrying.

 

[rakkadakka]

Naga games are the worst

Hey don't worry, we have a SD on the same team for even more cancer.

 

[Sibylus]

Yep, this is gonna be a Naga game alright.

 

[Cels]

feels kind of like the secret/lgd game yesterday except newbee has a much better chance to win than secret did

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Holy shit is Alliance in the booth playing again?

 

[Shorty11857]

EU Dota is dead

 

[Zeouterlimits]

I need a drink.

 

[Twookie]

oh god liquid, not you too

 

[Sibylus]

Know what would be good for all this illusion spam? A Legion Commander that was actually viable.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Embarrassing performance by Europe

 

[aeolist]

at the bare minimum valve needs to take away shadow demon's ability to make disruption illusions from illusions

 

[PsychoSoldier]

at the bare minimum valve needs to take away shadow demon's ability to make disruption illusions from illusions

I'm surprised that's not a bug, seems kinda silly.

 

[Kalnos]

LMAO that tp by naga was so funny

 

[waxinlyrical]

wtf I was away doing work stuff and Liquid goes from 16-1 to 22-13 and Naga being super fat.

 

[bbd23]

dumb crowd giving away the rapier Kappa

 

[Sibylus]

Yep, it's a Naga SD game. Oblig rapier to counter.

 

[kobe(beast)]

First they came for Secret, but I wasn't a Secret fans so I didn't speak up. Then they came for [A], but I wasn't a [A] fanstraight so I didn't say anything. Then they came for Liquid, but all European teams are already dead so they have no one to speak for themselves.

 

[NaDannMaGoGo]

Problem is that Matumba is really slot starved. He does kinda neat a MKB and even if he has that he still doesn't one shot anyone but the SD (unless they're stacked up for cleave). And he has to worry about lasso without no linkens.

 

[Sibylus]

That's game.

 

[pislit]

DIVINE PA MORE!

 

[mysteriousmage09]

EU Dota is a fucking embarrassment.

 

[Imp the Dimp]

Every Ember I ever see has a good early game, decent mid game, fails to push high ground, games goes late, he has to get Rapier, loses.

 

[Omega Kirby]

wtf I was away doing work stuff and Liquid goes from 16-1 to 22-13 and Naga being super fat.

What a throw rofl

 

[mStudios]

WHAT A THROW

 

[Zeouterlimits]

God darn it.

 

[Shorty11857]

Europe dominates Dota for the entire year, wins all 3 majors, now this

 

[Imp the Dimp]

10k gold throw only. Relax, guys. It happens in your pubs all the time. Being ahead 20-1 or whatever the score was does not tell the whole story.