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[SUPARSTARX]

I need some good Elisabeth/Mature/Mai/King videos to learn from

 

[Muchi Muchi Pink]

I want The Griffon/Tizoc and Oswald :/

 

[Phoenixazure]

Sounds like a plan. My GT is Dave Long. I'll see if I can clear some friends list space.

k. my gamertag is Riotspark

 

[KingJ2002]

weird.

well... broken or (boss) characters like saiki are fun to play with but are honestly a pain to deal with in ranked matches. So for competitive play they should be banned...

i say keep dlc characters available for player matches and player tournaments but for ranked matches... keep it fair and balanced.

i dont want to see teams of Saiki, EX Iori & K' all over the place.

 

[SolarKnight]

But what's wrong with good, balanced DLC characters?

 

[sixteen-bit]

But what's wrong with good, balanced DLC characters?

Nothing, I say

 

[Phoenixazure]

well... broken or (boss) characters like saiki are fun to play with but are honestly a pain to deal with in ranked matches. So for competitive play they should be banned...

i say keep dlc characters available for player matches and player tournaments but for ranked matches... keep it fair and balanced.

i dont want to see teams of Saiki, EX Iori & K' all over the place.

I think its too early to jump to the conclusion whether they're broken or not. Easy to Use =/= Broken, as specialist characters and/or a solid game plan have put them down in the past

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Seriously I don't get why people still freak out about Flame Iori after we've seen him in action. Claw Iori is so much more of a threat. I mean the guy is ALWAYS in your face.

 

[haunts]

Didnt SNK come out and say that the DLC characters would be really good because they want people to use them?

 

[Terareflection]

Didnt SNK come out and say that the DLC characters would be really good because they want people to use them?

Yes, they did. No real problem with a good character.

 

[SolarKnight]

Seriously I don't get why people still freak out about Flame Iori after we've seen him in action. Claw Iori is so much more of a threat. I mean the guy is ALWAYS in your face.

I blame EX fireball. Also, people seeing him being really good already without realizing that it's pretty much the same character people have been playing for a decade with new, good tools so of course he's gonna look beastly. Maybe.

Didnt SNK come out and say that the DLC characters would be really good because they want people to use them?

Yeah, but really good =/= broken.

 

[BadWolf]

Didnt SNK come out and say that the DLC characters would be really good because they want people to use them?

Yes, not broken though.

Of what we have seen so far EX Kyo and EX Iori seem like very solid characters but not much more powerful overall than XIII Kyo and Iori (imo they seem weaker).

 

[Dandy J]

I guess Seth should be banned SF4 as well. And Gouken and Akuma. Plus Balrog Vega Sagat and Bison were bosses in SF2, they should be banned as well. Plus Oni and Evil Ryu, they are basically Goku and Vegeta.

 

[Terareflection]

I guess Seth should be banned SF4 as well. And Gouken and Akuma. Plus Balrog Vega Sagat and Bison were bosses in SF2, they should be banned as well. Plus Oni and Evil Ryu, they are basically Goku and Vegeta.

I distinctly remember people here wanting to ban Seth during SF4's early days.

 

[Fersis]

I guess Seth should be banned SF4 as well. And Gouken and Akuma. Plus Balrog Vega Sagat and Bison were bosses in SF2, they should be banned as well. Plus Oni and Evil Ryu, they are basically Goku and Vegeta.

If i remember correctly CPU Seth is different from the playable version.

Is too early to talk about tiers and banning lists.

Didnt SNK come out and say that the DLC characters would be really good because they want people to use them?

Well they also said that the netcode was going to be good ... BOOOM!

 

[Skilletor]

Seriously I don't get why people still freak out about Flame Iori after we've seen him in action. Claw Iori is so much more of a threat. I mean the guy is ALWAYS in your face.

I don't see how you can say anything either way until people have had extensive playtime with the characters.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

I distinctly remember people here wanting to ban Seth during SF4's early days.

France and maybe some other countries in Europe had banned Seth and Gouken back then, lol.

I don't see how you can say anything either way until people have had extensive playtime with the characters.

Overreactions to Flame Iori while people seem indifferent to Claw Iori despite him having received only minor nerfs from the arcade and having proved really effective until now don't make much sense to me.

 

[Terareflection]

I think people are going to end up rejecting this online- I tried playing today and it was a lot less busy then I felt it should be day 2 of a game.

A patch would help keep it alive, it is playable online, even if it's not good enough.

Sad. This game is really good too.

 

[Skilletor]

France and maybe some other countries in Europe had banned Seth and Gouken back then, lol.

I remember people saying Gouken's back throw into shin sho would be too good. lol

 

[GrayFoxPL]

I guess Seth should be banned SF4 as well. And Gouken and Akuma. Plus Balrog Vega Sagat and Bison were bosses in SF2, they should be banned as well. Plus Oni and Evil Ryu, they are basically Goku and Vegeta.

It's not really about banning overpowered characters. Tournaments ban dlc characters because you can't learn to defend against them if you don't buy them first and not everyone is willing to buy characters.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

In which modes do you unlock colors in the game ?

France and maybe some other countries in Europe had banned Seth and Gouken back then, lol.



Overreactions to Flame Iori while people seem indifferent to Claw Iori despite him having received only minor nerfs from the arcade and having proved really effective until now don't make much sense to me.

This..
I mean normal Iori right now is a very good char .
Yeah Flame Iori might be cheap but no worst than how he was in other games.

 

[Terareflection]

I need some good Elisabeth/Mature/Mai/King videos to learn from

Mature and King

There was this really cool A-CHO vid that had a pink Ash/Liz/Duo team styling fools, can't find it for the life of me though.

 

[Augemitbutter]

It's not really about banning overpowered characters. Tournaments ban dlc characters because you can't learn to defend against them if you don't buy them first and not everyone is willing to buy characters.

that's a good solution.

 

[shaowebb]

I've not really paid attention to KOF after the debacle of 12 and with all my UMVC3 dedication, but I know 13 is good.
My go to cast were Andy/King/Kyo/K'/Chris/Terry/Iori/Shingo/Oswald in the old games. Mainly K'/Andy/King though...

Any advice for someone ready to go back in? Also are strikers back or are there no assists in this game?

 

[SolarKnight]

It's not really about banning overpowered characters. Tournaments ban dlc characters because you can't learn to defend against them if you don't buy them first and not everyone is willing to buy characters.

Nobody banned Jill and Shuma. Nor the BB characters before CS2 either IIRC.

 

[Terareflection]

I've not really paid attention to KOF after the debacle of 12 and with all my UMVC3 dedication, but I know 13 is good.
My go to cast were Andy/King/Kyo/K'/Chris/Terry/Iori/Shingo/Oswald in the old games. Mainly K'/Andy/King though...

Any advice for someone ready to go back in? Also are strikers back or are there no assists in this game?

No assists, inputs might a little strict at first.

 

[luka]

Sad. This game is really good too.

It's KOF. Day 2 or day 200, it's never going to have a significant impact in America. Not when there are other games with Ryu and Wolverine out there.

In which modes do you unlock colors in the game ?

I'd like to know too.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

OMG some of the trials in this game i won't be doing .
So fucking crazy .

 

[luka]

I know right. I can pretty easily do the first 3 or 4 with each character, after that the timing gets so crazy. Sometimes I can get lucky by mashing the buttons during motions and stumble on some shortcuts.

 

[Dandy J]

It's not really about banning overpowered characters. Tournaments ban dlc characters because you can't learn to defend against them if you don't buy them first and not everyone is willing to buy characters.

Saiki (and Billy) are not DLC, and the entire game is new to mostly everyone. Even if you assume that everyone is familiar with the arcade version and take into account that people won't be experienced with the new characters, the first major is NEC. It's Dec. 3rd, about two weeks after the game has come out. That's plenty of time to learn 2 characters, especially in a game that won't have that high of stakes. And before someone brings up MK, the only reason DLC characters are banned for awhile is partly because everyone knew there'd be bugs and oversights when they first came out (not a knock to MK, just how it is).

 

[Terareflection]

I know right. I can pretty easily do the first 3 or 4 with each character, after that the timing gets so crazy. Sometimes I can get lucky by mashing the buttons during motions and stumble on some shortcuts.

It sad, if the inputs were like KOF XI, I don't think people would be complaining as much about the trials.

 

[SolarKnight]

Saiki (and Billy) are not DLC, and the entire game is new to mostly everyone. Even if you assume that everyone is familiar with the arcade version and take into account that people won't be experienced with the new characters, the first major is NEC. It's Dec. 3rd, about two weeks after the game has come out. That's plenty of time to learn 2 characters, especially in a game that won't have that high of stakes. And before someone brings up MK, the only reason DLC characters are banned for awhile is partly because everyone knew there'd be bugs and oversights when they first came out (not a knock to MK, just how it is).

No, they were banned because it was released after the cut off date for DLC.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Nobody banned Jill and Shuma. Nor the BB characters before CS2 either IIRC.

I wished they banned Makoto back then [/salty]

 

[Takuan]

Super Turbo buffering FTW! Got those shortcuts down with everyone now I figured it was some dumb shit like that.

Please clue me into this, or at least point in the direction where I can read up on them. Thanks!

 

[LowParry]

So I got Mature and Leona. One spot left. EX Iori is probably going to be it but need a filler in the mean time. Thinking either King or Yuri.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

So I got Mature and Leona. One spot left. EX Iori is probably going to be it but need a filler in the mean time. Thinking either King or Yuri.

Don't be a girly man and choose Clark!

 

[Shadow780]

I love the Arcade ending, how appropriate.

Spoiler

Ash disappears, "all is right with this world"

damn right.

 

[alstein]

This is the first KOF I've ever liked Clark.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Are endings in story mode or arcade? Like for Ikari team etc.?

 

[Terareflection]

Are endings in story mode or arcade? Like for Ikari team etc.?

Arcade.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Arcade.

Cool.

 

[Dave Long]

This is the first KOF I've ever liked Clark.

Dude. How can you not like a guy who points which way he's gonna go suplex your ass before doing so?!

 

[alstein]

Dude. How can you not like a guy who points which way he's gonna go suplex your ass before doing so?!

Years of fighting Chinese and Mexicans on Kaillera.

Made me hate Iori, Chris, Daimon, and Yashiro as well.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Years of fighting Chinese and Mexicans on Kaillera.

Made me hate Iori, Chris, Daimon, and Yashiro as well.

Yashiro is my favorite grappler.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

It sad, if the inputs were like KOF XI, I don't think people would be complaining as much about the trials.

Yep the timing really strict in this one.

 

[Terareflection]

Super Turbo buffering FTW! Got those shortcuts down with everyone now I figured it was some dumb shit like that.

What do you mean? Could you give a little more info on that?

 

[SolarKnight]

Years of fighting Chinese and Mexicans on Kaillera.

Made me hate Iori, Chris, Daimon, and Yashiro as well.

Hahaha! I know exactly how you feel, except replace Kaillera with arcades.

 

[shaowebb]

So is this game footsie heavy or do you rush it down like crazy out there? Also are we talking long combos without burning that Hyper thingy or are we talking SF one-sy two-sy small combos and seperate here? Also how powerful is zoning in this?

Really trying to see where KOF has gone since my years of mashing it out on MAME back in 2000 on a keypad. I eventually upgraded to the actual discs and now own most of them, but I never followed the actual meta of the game so probably played it wrong (though K is awesome at everything from what I could remember).

Just trying to get the feel here.

 

[Terareflection]

So is this game footsie heavy or do you rush it down like crazy out there? Also are we talking long combos without burning that Hyper thingy or are we talking SF one-sy two-sy small combos and seperate here? Also how powerful is zoning in this?

Really trying to see where KOF has gone since my years of mashing it out on MAME back in 2000 on a keypad. I eventually upgraded to the actual discs and now own most of them, but I never followed the actual meta of the game so probably played it wrong (though K is awesome at everything from what I could remember).

Just trying to get the feel here.

Generally, you'll want to rushdown and keep up the pressure, and this game is more combo heavy than the earlier ones, but i doubt most of us will be able to do those anytime soon.

You don't really "get" the game until you sit down and play it with others, though.

 

[alstein]

So is this game footsie heavy or do you rush it down like crazy out there? Also are we talking long combos without burning that Hyper thingy or are we talking SF one-sy two-sy small combos and seperate here? Also how powerful is zoning in this?

Really trying to see where KOF has gone since my years of mashing it out on MAME back in 2000 on a keypad. I eventually upgraded to the actual discs and now own most of them, but I never followed the actual meta of the game so probably played it wrong (though K is awesome at everything from what I could remember).

Just trying to get the feel here.

Zoning is important, especially with some characters, there's a neutral game, but it's not the ground game of SF. The thing with zoning is you can't combo off of zoning, and good combos mean you gotta be on point to do it.

Combos are a bit longer then SF, but not as long as Blazblue.