Basileus777
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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE
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CertifiedFP
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Nah, apparently some of the following updates were emergency bugfixes following the UI 32-bit colors update introducing some new bug with the battle UI.
Screenshot of new bug, SC Party Member Spoiler
Also apparently some text boxes sometimes think the game is running 4:3 and stretch out on 16:9 now. Area and party member spoiler.
enfieldvball
Member
So I just started Chapter 6 in ToCS, clocked at around 50 hrs, how much time do I have left? Quick recap below:
Just got done with the fortress portion where you get to fight with Sara and you fight S I think her name was? Basically the prologue portion not in the prologue...
klabautermann
Member
Posted earlier about how I started playing Cold Steel on my commute to work, ended up playing it all weekend. What a great game. Still only on Chapter 1 but no one told me the generous splash of Persona inspired stuff is in there, which makes me really happy. Even the After School song has the same synth slap bass sound as a lot of Meguro works. The battle system for this game is really awesome. I initially overlooked this game because even as a biased fan of strictly Japanese games, this kinda blipped on my "generic anime" radar but I'm glad so many people talked it up because this game is really great.
Also happy that this will hold me over the remaining two weeks until Persona 5 drops. If I don't finish it by then, it will help ease my Persona cravings by giving me an RPG fix on the way to and from work while I'm waiting to play P5 again. Probably gonna double dip on the PS3 version of this game since my GF hijacked the PSTV and it doesn't wanna sign in my account or read my memory card.
Also happy that this will hold me over the remaining two weeks until Persona 5 drops. If I don't finish it by then, it will help ease my Persona cravings by giving me an RPG fix on the way to and from work while I'm waiting to play P5 again. Probably gonna double dip on the PS3 version of this game since my GF hijacked the PSTV and it doesn't wanna sign in my account or read my memory card.
That's pretty much exactly what it is. Even though FC/SC have long been out, if we find some new method while working on the 3rd that'll improve the previous games, we implement it. This thing with the character portraits was something I had noted a short while back, but Sara went the extra mile with it and made things look quite lovely.
We'll be putting out another text update next month, even. Nothing major, but it's a couple of minor things discovered while working on the 3rd that's I'd like to properly backport into previous games rather than leave as is, as well as one major terminology that's been bugging me for years now. All of these changes will obviously not affect new players since they're playing with those changes in from the start, but for longtime players, they will be documented in a blog for their reference.
Short version: we're dorks and talk about how we'd like to tweak and improve things pretty much all the time, then we just kinda go, "Why not?" and do it. I think that's how the recent "Skip S-Craft" function from Sara came out. Boy, is that ever a godsend.
Bravo for all your hard work.
Switching them out is really good. Maybe half of the starting ones are really great while some feel lackluster. Even giving stuff like Rean's starting Master Quartz to Fie/Millium so they can nuke stuff while getting CP back is really nice.
Not swapping Master Quartz won't put you at a huge disadvantage, but there's a lot of stuff you can capitalize on if you do, and it'll especially help on a fresh nightmare playthrough. Some of these other Master Quartz don't really shine until you level it up a bit too. If you end up feeling like you've grasped Master Quartz stuff too late, there's at least CS2 left for you. I don't think I messed with that stuff too heavily on my first CS1 playthrough.
I think the fundamental difference between the two is that the Persona series has the school setting incorporated into its DNA (seeing how it spun off from Shin Megami Tensei If...) whereas Trails of Cold Steel 'happens to have' a game set at a military academy, because a) it was foreshadowed and b) makes sense in the context of the over-arching narrative.
That's the other fundamental difference between the two series: Persona has pre-determined story beats on specific dates since 3, that allow you to roam around in-between those dates. Trails is rigidly structured with a calendar that is only indicative, meaning sacrificing Persona's freedom allows them to have more control over the pacing. The outcome is that Persona delivers every story beat whereas Trails' slow burn saved up its ammo to unleash it toward the end -- and in the case of Trails of Cold Steel, save some for its direct sequel.
Link1110
Member
CS1 is starting to drag. I'm in chapter 6, and I expected after the last chapter to feel different (after all the build up it got) not or feels like I'm doing the same things I've been doing all game. I know that after this only
so I'm gonna stick with it for this great ending I've been hearing about. Don't let me down game. Please end well enough that I can forgive the bad pacing here
Any tricks for getting rean to level 80?
Of, and since when does reach have black hair. It's blue, in fact in the torn order pics be looks just fate linegod from star ocean 3. Half the time I looked at that thing, I called him fate (and Laura Maria for looking similar to that)
a mini chapter
Any tricks for getting rean to level 80?
Of, and since when does reach have black hair. It's blue, in fact in the torn order pics be looks just fate linegod from star ocean 3. Half the time I looked at that thing, I called him fate (and Laura Maria for looking similar to that)
The trick to reaching level 80 is to use Shiny Poms (DLC) in the final dungeon.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
yea, but dont actually use it in the final dungeon. Go back to floor 1 while the final dungeon is available
ShadowSoldier89
Member
TOCS 1 shining poms were free right before CS2 released. Doubt they still are but thats how I got them.
You can get to level 80 without them by grinding the final dungeon (or going to floor 6 and abusing grade bonuses). Its just time consuming in a not fun way
Glitter and Gold
Banned
DLC refreshes each playthrough
so you get three free ones per run from the free pack on the store. So that's 6 free levels if you're going for the plat since that requires at least two runs anyways. Any additional runs are 3 more free ones.
Thank you for continuing to make improvements. These games deserve to have a long life, and this sort of upkeep will help improve the experience for future players.
icecreamsnow
Member
The ending's great, and acts as a great advertisement for CS2. It's just a shame that CS2 didn't quite live up to what CS1 promised.
The only things worth fighting past level 65ish are the flaming orange heads in the old schoolhouse. Equip Rean with Megalith master quartz and Domination. Megalith will give you bonus exp and full CP regen (out of combat) in 10-12 seconds. There's four groups you can do without messing about with switches, up to eight mobs per time. Gale one half, and S-Craft the others.
But as others have said, it's really not worth it at all. It's just an extra 200 sepith and a Saintly Force quartz in CS2. Took me about 10 hours extra to get to level 80, but that was me killing time before CS2 came out.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
KeA's voice should be annoying but it's actually cute :-x ~2 more chapters until plat. Ao is in reach!!!
Edit: Did my nightmare clear run but the hard trophy didn't unlock do I have to do that one separately? Jesus noooooooo　y_y
Edit: Did my nightmare clear run but the hard trophy didn't unlock do I have to do that one separately? Jesus noooooooo　y_y
Wow, really? *drops Vita* We're done here!
In other news, looks like Tita and Randy will appear in Sen no Kiseki III.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Oh god this is actually happening.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Well trying to search the jp webs if anyone has any info on that if it was a bug I could just do the last boss again if it wasn't I guess I'll have to do a pure rush through some other time too drained after basically doing 3 perfect quest runs so I have import endings with ellie, randy and tio. x_X I think it time to move on to Ao.
Also nice to see Tita confirmed I had a strong feeling she would be one of the Sora cast. Randy is a nice confirm too. Randy meeting Fie make it happen Falcom! Make it right!!!
klabautermann
Member
Oh yeah, it's not really as big a part of the game, but I was completely unaware of the inspiration it drew from the Persona series going in. Was a pleasant surprise haha.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
So Tita will be about three years older than she was at the time of the Sky games, right? That will be interesting.
I hope that Agate will show up at some point, too. I want to see him again, and if Tita is appearing it only feels right.
I think she should be 16/17 in CS3 (she was 12 in FC)
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Sounds like she'll be in the prime headpatting age range. Rean better hope that Agate isn't around.
God, no.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Yep, agreed. I felt like given the current events she was just to strong of a member narratively to no bring back. Party member that can serve as techno babble plot device is a strong tool to have as a writer. Plus she's one of the characters that could have had the most obvious changes beyond just having a new set of clothes. Makes it appealing from a design standpoint too.
Erebonia doesn't sell whips sorry mate :-x
Nightengale
Member
I swear... if Cold Steel 3 don't have Schera back...
Falcom pls ;-;
Falcom pls ;-;
Zero/Ao character. The red hair dude in the team.
Yeah i'm just messing around
Since I haven't played Zero/Ao yet
And I probably won't will, for a long time
godisntheradio
Neo Member
how's the zero no kiseki fan translation going? i know the 3rd hasn't even come out yet but there's a lot of kiseki news lately and it makes me really excited for playing these games
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Schera/Sara tag-team.
Randy is confirmed, Lloyd is all but confirmed, Mueller is confirmed to get an adequate role, Rean is looking clean, and we have a character using tonfa guns.
All I need now is confirmation of Kevin.
klabautermann
Member
Quick question: Trails of Cold Steel is my first game in this series ever (Probably my first Falcom game actually). Are Trails in the Sky, Zero no Kiseki, and Ao related in anyway? And if yes, how so? Any games in the series I should absolutely play before I carry on with the sequel? Even if they are stand alone for the most part, I would like to not miss any cool references or anything like that.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
All these games are part of the same world and also are close to each other chronologically. Characters/events can and do jump between titles and the Sky duology kind of establishes the foundations of what the big bad of the series is and their general plan seems to be.
I think just play Cold Steel II before jumping back to the sky games.
klabautermann
Member
Ah okay. I guess I'm not missing anything too big worth back tracking for until I finish Trails of Cold Steel II then? As far as localized titles go, is there just Trails of the Sky 1&2, and a handful of the original Dragon Slayer/Legend of Heroes titles? Do majority of the non localized entries have english patched roms at all?
Thanks!
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
You'll miss out on some callbacks, but nothing absolutely essential.
Right now it's just Trails in the Sky I & II and Cold Steel I & II translated. Trails in the Sky the 3rd is coming out in English soon (supposedly this spring).
No translation patches yet for Zero or Ao, but one is being worked on for Zero.
klabautermann
Member
Alright thanks! Makes me happy I don't have to throw some more JRPGs into my backlog anytime soon. Really digging Cold Steel, so hoping to get through as much as that as possible before P5 drops.
Wow, it'll be nice to see my daughter again.
No bar in all of Erebonia or Crossbell would ever survive such a thing...therefore, it needs to happen.
Borrowing from the OT for CS I, this is what the timeline looked like up until CS II for reference down the line.
klabautermann
Member
That's really helpful, thank you! Had no idea all these games were within such close proximity with each other, pretty interesting. I know a lot of people praise Sora no Kiseki so was definitely gonna play those and I remember seeing some official illustrations for Zero no Kiseki that looked really appealing so I hope I can play that and Ao some time.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Imperial Chronicle Special Edition:
All alcohol in the entirety of His Majesty's realm missing!
Imperial ministers baffled!
The disappearance of all brewed or distilled beverages thruout the entire empire yesterday sent shockwaves thru an already rattled nation. Anyone with any leads on mysterious sightings of vivacious foreign agents seen at the scenes of the worst disappearances is encouraged to come forth to authorities.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I wonder if they are waiting for 3rd before they start talking much about it. Haven't seen anything since all the discussion when it was first announced, apart from the blog being put up for updates (but not updated beyond that yet).
I had no idea that was a thing ._.
Oh, well. Hoping to hear more as we get closer to the summer.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Damn Ao starts out with a bang lettings us control some high profile people from the get go. A nice surprise after Zero had more of a system where most new members would join more in a guest capacity rather being a fully combat able part of the team. Actually that's maybe not fair to say when I think about it :/.
Not really, there just isn't much to talk about. Progress is slow, especially on a game as big as this one.
Even though I think Persona 5 is the better game, it did spark some newfound re-appreciation for Cold Steel in me. Also, don't rush -- shelve it if you must, but these games are too great to rush through.
encephalon
Member
Well I beat the PC Engine ver. of the very first Eiyuu Densetsu. It was nothing revolutionary, but the VA flourishes added by Hudson give the game an interesting, if not surreal quality. The sequel looks like it saw a slight production quality jump (cutscene visuals throughout, rather than just the beginning and end) and I'll probably try to play it sometime soon.
klabautermann
Member
Oh yeah, Persona is my favorite series alongside SMT, so it will probably just be my commute game rather than my leisure time game like it has been. Don't worry on the rushing, 13 hours in and only on Chapter 2. Doing all the sidequests I can and really taking in the NPCs around campus. One thing I really appreciate about this game is how there aren't a ton of random NPCs, but actual students and teachers you can follow along with as far as their life goes and how the writing really implies that they even interact with the other Class VII students. Gives it a ton of personality and I really don't wanna miss any of that so I'm gonna make sure to take in as much dialogue and reading as can.