There's a part of Cold Steel I that spoils an endgame twist from Sky SC (though you may have gotten to that point already, I don't remember), and there are several parts of Cold Steel II that spoil other things from the Sky games.
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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE
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There's a part of Cold Steel I that spoils an endgame twist from Sky SC (though you may have gotten to that point already, I don't remember), and there are several parts of Cold Steel II that spoil other things from the Sky games.
These were a pain during my Nightmare NG+ run, and though playing Blade was the most common cause in my case, it also happened during the final boss.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Finally finish Final Chapter in CS2. Welp I want to play the crossbell games now.
klabautermann
Member
Quick question, I generally do all the upfront Side Quests, but I got an A and not an S for the Prologue and Chapter 1. I usually talk to as many as the NPCs as I can but I never seem to run across any additional tasks, assuming there are additional tasks and thats how you get them, but I can't seem to figure it out. I guess I could look it up, but that kinda ruins the fun. Also, will only getting A's stop me from getting to the rank of A0?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
if there is 1 constant frustration with this series, its the amount of extremely time limitted and hidden side quests, AP points, and important missables
This is one franchise where I just use a (as spoiler free as possible) walkthrough since -as much as I enjoy the games and following even the mundane happenings in the world - I don't care for the ridiculously easily missable side content. I love to experience all of it but I don't care for running around so much that I'd want to check up on everyone all the time only to still miss half of the side quests.
klabautermann
Member
Ah, so they are super hidden. I usually try to talk to all the NPCs but there are so many, I'm sure I miss a good handful. Maybe I will just open a guide, then. :/ Am I boned on getting A0 is I don't get an S on all the chapters?
You can miss about 10 to 15AP and still get A0, I believe
klabautermann
Member
Well that's reassuring. Not sure how much I missed considering I didn't do any of the hidden stuff in the Prologue, Chapter 1, or any of the Pre-Bareahard stuff in Chapter 2. How much extra AP is there generally in a chapter?
Yeah I did the same for CS, during each chapter I'd check for miss-able quests in a FAQ to make sure I got them all. I don't find it fun having to speak to every NPC in town in case I miss anything.
From my understanding, if you get A rank in every chapter you'd get just enough for A0. But do check a guide for more info on that
klabautermann
Member
Really hope thats the case! Thanks for the help!
Also I'm enjoying Rean as a character way more than I thought I would. I think that goes for almost everyone in the came, maybe except for Jusis and Machias. I'm sure they get better, but I really enjoy that the game's portrayal of all these characters isn't overly tropey. Like, the tropes are there, but it doesn't hold on to any interactions that happen because of those tropes and I really appreciate that. Though I think I like the Rean the most, I don't really strongly dislike anyone. Emma is kinda boring, but maybe she'll be fleshed out more on this Field Study, Also Sara is the best.
Also I'm enjoying Rean as a character way more than I thought I would. I think that goes for almost everyone in the came, maybe except for Jusis and Machias. I'm sure they get better, but I really enjoy that the game's portrayal of all these characters isn't overly tropey. Like, the tropes are there, but it doesn't hold on to any interactions that happen because of those tropes and I really appreciate that. Though I think I like the Rean the most, I don't really strongly dislike anyone. Emma is kinda boring, but maybe she'll be fleshed out more on this Field Study, Also Sara is the best.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Emma remains boring for a long time, but shes one of my favorite characters. However when I say a long time I mean really until CS2.
Sara is the best, very true.
I always just commit to two playthroughs of each title due to this. First time is just all me; a pure experience. Second time is a guide for missables/completionist stuff and whatnot.
Felt happy when I got A0 and all treasure chests in my first run of CS2, lol
Young Magus
Junior Member
ur link isn't working
Anyway, I like X.R.C. from Tokyo Xanadu
I mean, it's not really a Kiseki game, but it's basically Cold Steel with a different paint... I just want an excuse to post that track
CertifiedFP
Member
Out of curiosity, since Trails in the Sky is Legend of Heroes 6...
Is it in the same universe as the previous ones, or are all the prior ones unrelated and they decided to De-Final Fantasize things and go for a shared universe for all future entries?
Is it in the same universe as the previous ones, or are all the prior ones unrelated and they decided to De-Final Fantasize things and go for a shared universe for all future entries?
Aoki Shizuku, no question.
1 and 2 are a duology and 3, 4, and 5 are the Gagharv trilogy. As far as we know, each of these (and Trails) is set in their own world.
klabautermann
Member
Welp thanks for posting that and adding another JRPG to my enormous, never ending backlog. That song is super great!
ShadowSoldier89
Member
Post it then!
encephalon
Member
The first two Legend of Heroes games are straight up Star Ocean. Not that space travel or anything like that is necessarily involved ... although I wouldn't be surprised if it came up. I'm also somewhat reminded of Phantasy Star II. I didn't expect the origins of the series to be like this.
The Phantasy Star comparisons I can understand, but Star Ocean how?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
That's interesting. After two games I'd think it would have made more sense to just stick with it. Wonder what prompted the change?
ShadowSoldier89
Member
those are the kinds of updates I dont like. Once names are rooted leave them alone
Its Aeris goddamnit
Its Aeris goddamnit
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
wonder if the older games will get a name change patch.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
on steam, basically guaranteed, on PSP, doubt it
Oh wow! Very nice of them to keep names and terms up to date and correcting as they go.
CertifiedFP
Member
I dunno about you, but unless Falcom directly requested they de-localize the name or there's something in 3C's script that relies on this... It's stupid.
The only Zin in the world to me is this Zin.
Oh well, gonna start a new run of Final Fantasy VI, starring Tina.
Having played Zero and Ao, I can definitely think of a case where having Zane's real name, Zin, is important. I think it is a wise future proofing move to undo the choice to call him Zane. This ain't a self-contained thing, terms and names can have far reaching consequences in these games...
Thankfully, that one's already taken by a much lesser character with infinitely clumsier "he's not really my brother" drama.You'll always be Zane 2 me.
Next you're gonna tell me Estelle is Elise. And Joshua is James.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
It might take some getting used to for me but it is the correct name.
StarSketch
Banned
You'll always be Zane 2 me.
Next you're gonna tell me Estelle is Elise. And Joshua is James.
wat
Young Magus
Junior Member
Any reason for the Zin > Zane change in the first place?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It would be kind of interesting if they were making way for the fan translation to use Zin if that ends up being important in those games.
CertifiedFP
Member
Zane reads better, Zin sounds very guttural in English pronunciation.
Matt Attack
Member
It'll be weird to call him Zin after all this time, but I'll try to get used to it.
godisntheradio
Neo Member
that leaves me no other choice than having to replay FC and SC to get used to Zin
Agent Unknown
Member
I've been seriously wanting to play Trails in the Sky, figured it would be a good way to start the series, how is the 2011 PSP version?