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[FairXchange]

I wonder why it's actualy THAT hard to get the game to 60. The PS4 isn't a powerhouse but still way more powerful than the PS3.

Emulators don't always run old video games solidly despite their powerful hardware. You may get spikes of 120fps, but you'll get crashes to 10fps as well. Though, I only mention emulation as an example of when even brute strength does not equal solid performance. The PS4 is amply powerful, but it's not a miracle machine either. There's optimization that has to occur for a game that was highly specialized for the SPUs of the Cell processor on PS3 to translate and excel in a more traditional x86 environment on new hardware in the PS4. The entire game code has to be rewritten when transitioning from a last gen build, to a new console.

 

[BigTnaples]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 €

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

I need this.


No US version?

 

[Theecliff]

Can we not slander people's reputation pls?

Whose? Corrine Yu's or the junior member who tried to spread made up bullshit about her?

 

[Natels]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 €

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

Same price for both versions? I've seen it at 49,99€ in some portuguese retailers as well.

EDIT: Droped to 44,99€

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

Not that I can see =(

Glad I still have my original steelbook though.

Yeah, me too, but I want that one

 

[UrbanRats]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 €

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

I like that cover, but 70€ for a steelbook case? Nah, brah.

EDIT: Oh lol, standard is 70€ too.. PC gaming has spoiled me.

 

[Andrew.]

Whenever the OT comes out, there needs to be a list of the newbies and ex-Xbox people who will be playing this for the first time. I'm real curious to see what the numbers will be.

And of course to read reactions!

BEST. GAME. EVER.

 

[lmbotiva]

seems fishy they haven't release a gameplay video for the remastered version of the game, after watching the GTA5 trailer for next gen consoles you can immediately see the differences but on the last of us trailer i seriously could not tell what exactly was improved, i love the game but this seems to be a bit suspicious, ill wait for DF tech analysis before making a purchase decision

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

but on the last of us trailer i seriously could not tell what exactly was improved,

I... what???

watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYmOG_H7Fk

 

[not_so_special]

Yes xD


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103908531&postcount=887


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103930215&postcount=1038


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=103940688&postcount=1046


Misterxmedia just had a post using these comments as "proof" that the Uncharted 4 trailer is CGI and everyone at NaughtyDog and Sony is lying and so on.


I find this amusing

why this guy is not banned ?

 

[RoboPlato]

seems fishy they haven't release a gameplay video for the remastered version of the game, after watching the GTA5 trailer for next gen consoles you can immediately see the differences but on the last of us trailer i seriously could not tell what exactly was improved, i love the game but this seems to be a bit suspicious, ill wait for DF tech analysis before making a purchase decision

It's running at 2.25x the resolution, more than double the framerate, cutscene models are used in game, improved lighting, and most likely higher res assets.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I can't believe this shit I'm sure there is no agenda there.

Its pretty easy for people to hide online and say things. It isn't like we have a face or name to connect them to. MisterXmedia should reveal himself. I wouldn't doubt he posts here under different names and then quotes himself on his page without anyone realizing it.

 

[Loakum]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 €

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

That's a nice steelbook cover! I would jump on it, but it's not available for the US. For what it's worth, I'm still happy with the previous steelbook cover....that I still intend to use.

 

[Squishy3]

I... what???

watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYmOG_H7Fk

You don't want to use YouTube to try and convince someone there is a difference when it's heavily compressed and runs at 30 FPS for a trailer there's a 60 FPS version of. You'll want this link for that.

 

[lmbotiva]

I... what???

watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhYmOG_H7Fk

It's running at 2.25x the resolution, more than double the framerate, cutscene models are used in game, improved lighting, and most likely higher res assets.

that's what they have told us but in the trailer all i see is the game running at better resolution, if they were confident on the remastered version at least the game would have been playable at the floor on E3, but all we have gotten are 2 trailers and that's that, remember before the tomb raider definitive edition was out we got demos on pretty much every website and they explained everything they did on the game SHOWING IT, not only talking about it, i understand the love people, including myself have for ND but that cant blind people to think this looks miles better, it just doesn't

 

[Natels]

that's what they have told us but in the trailer all i see is the game running at better resolution, if they were confident on the remastered version at least the game would have been playable at the floor on E3, but all we have gotten are 2 trailers and that's that, remember before the tomb raider definitive edition was out we got demos on pretty much every website and they explained everything they did on the game SHOWING IT, not only talking about it, i understand the love people, including myself have for ND but that cant blind people to think this looks miles better, it just doesn't

Why show gameplay of a released game? Doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Kings fan]

I agree after watching the trailer there isn't anything shown that justifies a double dip in my opinion. Especially a $60 double dip for a paltry amount of DLC and minor graphical upgrade.

Will have to wait till the actually game releases with gameplay footage to see if the game world looks dramatically upgraded (like the GTA V trailer) otherwise I think this release will be more for players who have never played the game before.

 

[twobear]

The upgrade looks pretty marginal to me too. Compared with the upgrade in GTAV it's pretty striking. It's actually pushed me away from double dipping.

 

[Chinner]

showing footage of actual gameplay would help. thats where we'll see the most gains versus the cutscenes.

 

[lmbotiva]

Why show gameplay of a released game? Doesn't make sense to me.

i dont know, maybe to show why you should be exited to buy it again? to show all the improvements you have made on it? it doesn't matter what i say, someone will quote me saying im wrong, sometimes it scares me how faithful people are to a brand

 

[omonimo]

I agree after watching the trailer there isn't anything shown that justifies a double dip in my opinion. Especially a $60 double dip for a paltry amount of DLC and minor graphical upgrade.

Will have to wait till the actually game releases with gameplay footage to see if the game world looks dramatically upgraded (like the GTA V trailer) otherwise I think this release will be more for players who have never played the game before.

1080p 60 fps higher texture res probably better AF are minor? O_O

 

[PROh1bited]

No one has actually seen game game play running on the ps4, but we have tons of people on here who have somehow gotten an exclusive sneak peek, and have already written it off to be a crappy port.

 

[Natels]

i dont know, maybe to show why you should be exited to buy it again? to show all the improvements you have made on it? it doesn't matter what i say, someone will quote me saying im wrong, sometimes it scares me how faithful people are to a brand

I get your point, I will probably wait to see if the double dip is worth it. But showing gameplay of The Last of Us for example at E3 conference would not make sense to me.

"Here is the same game that some of you played last year, but with better resolution and framerate"

They could release a bit of gameplay like they did for the Uncharted 4 teaser though.

 

[InfiniteNine]

why this guy is not banned ?

Well if I recall correctly he just got laid off from Naughty Dog so maybe some pity from the mods.

 

[DevilFox]

Apart from resolution and framerate, there's nothing to notice in a trailer made of cutscenes.
They'll release a videogameplay before the release, there we'll appreciate the upgrades.

 

[I-hate-u]

Whose? Corrine Yu's or the junior member who tried to spread made up bullshit about her?

Corrine Yu

 

[xxracerxx]

i dont know, maybe to show why you should be exited to buy it again? to show all the improvements you have made on it? it doesn't matter what i say, someone will quote me saying im wrong, sometimes it scares me how faithful people are to a brand

I am sure we will see some gameplay before release (at least I hope we do).

Maybe they will astound us and show gameplay during the commercials.

 

[lmbotiva]

No one has actually seen game game play running on the ps4, but we have tons of people on here who have somehow gotten an exclusive sneak peek, and have already written it off to be a crappy port.

throwing darts at people its kind of a coward thing to do, name the people, as for me all i said was what seems obvious to me, why haven't we gotten a gameplay video where we can actually see the improvements made where it really matter? the gameplay part, is not about sneak peaks, is about not being a sell out to a developer just because they did great in the past so everything they touch is guaranteed to be gold, like i said, i rather be skeptical and wait than buy it and bitch about it afterwards

 

[Rimon-hanit]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 € (the same price as the standard version)

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

I like my original steelbook more but might go for it anyway.

 

[lmbotiva]

I get your point, I will probably wait to see if the double dip is worth it. But showing gameplay of The Last of Us for example at E3 conference would not make sense to me.

"Here is the same game that some of you played last year, but with better resolution and framerate"

They could release a bit of gameplay like they did for the Uncharted 4 teaser though.

i agree 100% on this, its a last years game, don't do a gameplay demo on stage but at least have the game playable on the floor you know, where people can record videos and upload them so we can see them

 

[Artorias]

throwing darts at people its kind of a coward thing to do, name the people, as for me all i said was what seems obvious to me, why haven't we gotten a gameplay video where we can actually see the improvements made where it really matter? the gameplay part, is not about sneak peaks, is about not being a sell out to a developer just because they did great in the past so everything they touch is guaranteed to be gold, like i said, i rather be skeptical and wait than buy it and bitch about it afterwards

I'm positive you don't know what the term "sell out" means.

 

[twobear]

1080p 60 fps higher texture res probably better AF are minor? O_O

That's pretty much the minimum expectation for a 'remaster', tho.

 

[Facism]

are they doing a bundle? I'm completely thirsty for this game despite completing it 5 times on PS3.

 

[lmbotiva]

I'm positive you don't know what the term "sell out" means.

im positive i do, it all depends on the perspective you look at it, not everything has to be an economical gain the be a sell out, but ill leave at that before you start giving me classes about the subject

 

[murgo]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 € (the same price as the standard version)

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

74€ actually, you gotta pay 5€ for shipping since it's USK18.
The steelbook looks great, but 74€ is way too expensive

 

[Artorias]

im positive i do, it all depends on the perspective you look at it, not everything has to be an economical gain the be a sell out, but ill leave at that before you start giving me classes about the subject

I'm not talking about an economical gain. Not a huge issue, but you certainly don't understand its meaning.

 

[lmbotiva]

I'm not talking about an economical gain. Not a huge issue, but you certainly don't understand its meaning.

if you said so than im sure that's exactly how it is

 

[Haines]

I seriously can't wait for this game. I know nothing besides old dude and Lil girl in a zombie apocalypse and the acclaim the game has.

So glad I waited for this version but ugh that wait

 

[Natels]

I seriously can't wait for this game. I know nothing besides old dude and Lil girl in a zombie apocalypse and the acclaim the game has.

So glad I waited for this version but ugh that wait

Keep it that way, I knew nothing about it either and loved it. Stay away from spoilers. Don't even come to this topic lol

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

I seriously can't wait for this game. I know nothing besides old dude and Lil girl in a zombie apocalypse and the acclaim the game has.

So glad I waited for this version but ugh that wait

If I were you I'd go on media blackout. Trust me. It will make it that much better

 

[S¡mon]

I seriously can't wait for this game. I know nothing besides old dude and Lil girl in a zombie apocalypse and the acclaim the game has.

So glad I waited for this version but ugh that wait

Literally the same thing here.

Oh, and I know there are

Spoiler

giraffes

!

 

[Carnby]

Who said this was a crappy port? what's the source?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

Amazon.de lists a Steelbook Edition for 69,99 € (the same price as the standard version)

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00L198XZS/

Gorgeous but don't understand making it country exclusive, surely many fans would love to buy it.

 

[Natels]

Who said this was a crappy port? what's the source?

Was wondering the same thing.

 

[Sande]

Is there any proper comparison yet? Besides the trailers that are 99% cutscenes I mean. Feels a bit weird that they haven't been pushing the difference all that much.

 

[Canis lupus]

Still no gameplay footage out?

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

https://twitter.com/Corrinne/status/478253936265019392

It seems like we will get "perfect 1080p60" in late July.

Why would it be necessary to push it past 60fps?
Project Morpheus support?

 

[TAJ]

Why would it be necessary to push it past 60fps?
Project Morpheus support?

You need to average over 60fps to maintain a steady 60fps.

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Why would it be necessary to push it past 60fps?
Project Morpheus support?

Morpheus won't be out till late 2015 art the earliest. Its not that. Just for stability purposes.

 

[Big_Al]

Why would it be necessary to push it past 60fps?
Project Morpheus support?

To try and get it above 60fps constantly so as they can actually lock it at 60fps ? Rather than being variable for example