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The Last Story (US) |OT| One of Wii's epic last breaths.
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Really? I have to disagree with the love story angle of it. The setup for it felt like something we've all seen tons of times before, and it felt to me like it progressed far too quickly to feel at all realistic. We're to believe that they basically fall so deeply in love in the course of, what, half a day spent running around town together? I guess it doesn't help that the passage of time feels very unclear at points, so to me it seems as though
the two of them go from meeting for the first time to their wedding day within, like, a month.
Fortunately there are other parts to the storyline that make up for it. I like that mercenaries in this setting are actually viewed like, well, mercenaries, as well as what knighthood means and the bit of conflict around what a "real" knight is.
And Jirall.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Ah, you finally got your copy, huh? Cool.
And yes, Xseed should be commended for a fantastic set.
Taken from a FAQ since I wasn't sure: "Now you can start a New Game Plus with all your levels, equipment and items. Normally occurring monsters will be a breeze considering this. The only catch
is that certain monsters, as well as the bosses will have leveled up something ridiculous and will proceed in wrecking your face, so it's not going to be that easy. Also replayable levels and Summon Circles will have powered up enemies to match your character levels."
Yep! The wait was torturous, saddled with both repeated retailer delays and shipping gaffes, but it arrived
I'm quite pleased
ShadowgeistX
Member
Got mine last night as well, damn Canada delay.
The package is awesome though. I am thoroughly impressed. It's so much better than the crap that other publishers release as "limited editions" and charge $80ish for.
The package is awesome though. I am thoroughly impressed. It's so much better than the crap that other publishers release as "limited editions" and charge $80ish for.
Terra_Ex
Member
I think a more interesting twist on it would be if
Zael were actually able to take the Duke up on his offer to work for him and marry Calista (been a while since I played, it was something along those lines iirc),
My feelings exactly. How is a mortal man expected to win this fight? UGH. The wall jumping thing is so not working, either. So I have to do it the old fashioned way, which is bunk. Think I'll use Gathering and run around the arena while my mages slooooooooooowly chip away at him.
I gave up on the wall jump method and just duked it out with him inside a heal circle. He destroyed me when I was trying the wall jump thing, and I only dropped his HP to about 3/4 while losing 2 of my own lives. But I think I only lost 1 life while I was fighting inside the circle.
What about that ridiculous knock-back attack of his?
Or like, did you use Gathering then stand in the circle? I might try that.
Just finished the game, I'm going to move on to those endgame chapters sometime tonight and probably wrap it all up. I've never played a mistwalker game before (I own BD and LO, I only watched my father play from time to time), I kept hoping Sakaguchi would come back to FF and make everything right again. But this game man, it reminded me of Final Fantasy IX a lot, which is my favourite game of all time.
I enjoyed the story, but the strong point was really the characters. Although Xenoblade remains my favorite jrpg this generation, Last Story has it beat in terms of the characters. My favourite was Syrenne, Lowell and Dagran were great too. Everybody has nice character development and play off each other really well. One thing I'd like to point out is that even though I find most main characters in jrpgs to be boring, I came to really like Zael (and his relationship with Callista). I guess it reminded me a bit of Zidane and Garnet.
The soundtrack was nice, but it's not what I was expecting from Nobuo. Most areas don't have music, but the battle themes were good (I particularily like the one where you're fighting
, sounded like some old school Final Fantasy).
Anyway, this was an incredibly fun game. In term of exclusives, Last Story and Xenoblade solidify the Wii to me as #1 home console for jrpgs.
edit: oh and also, am I the only one who thought Asthar and Therius would be bad guys? best npcs in the game!
I enjoyed the story, but the strong point was really the characters. Although Xenoblade remains my favorite jrpg this generation, Last Story has it beat in terms of the characters. My favourite was Syrenne, Lowell and Dagran were great too. Everybody has nice character development and play off each other really well. One thing I'd like to point out is that even though I find most main characters in jrpgs to be boring, I came to really like Zael (and his relationship with Callista). I guess it reminded me a bit of Zidane and Garnet.
The soundtrack was nice, but it's not what I was expecting from Nobuo. Most areas don't have music, but the battle themes were good (I particularily like the one where you're fighting
Jirall
Anyway, this was an incredibly fun game. In term of exclusives, Last Story and Xenoblade solidify the Wii to me as #1 home console for jrpgs.
edit: oh and also, am I the only one who thought Asthar and Therius would be bad guys? best npcs in the game!
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Man, I wanted to get this game done today, but my eyes are kinda feeling tired after my eye appt and I don't wanna push it especially with this game, lol.
But I have to say that this was my first Mistwalker console game (I'd previously played all of the DS games they had a hand in, including ASH and Away), and I have to agree with people saying that the game is kind of evocative of FFIX. That's how I feel in some parts.
I also stick to my feelings about how I probably shouldn't compare it to Xenoblade at all and look at it on its own; they're completely different games in terms of structure. I like Xenoblade a lot, but I've ended up liking The Last Story a lot too (and in terms of structure, considering it progresses at breakneck speed sometimes, it... sort of reminds me of pre-Chapter 9 FF13 with regards to mere story pacing, but it doesn't feel restrictive).
Don't get me wrong; the game has issues, but I've enjoyed it so far despite its flaws.
But I have to say that this was my first Mistwalker console game (I'd previously played all of the DS games they had a hand in, including ASH and Away), and I have to agree with people saying that the game is kind of evocative of FFIX. That's how I feel in some parts.
I also stick to my feelings about how I probably shouldn't compare it to Xenoblade at all and look at it on its own; they're completely different games in terms of structure. I like Xenoblade a lot, but I've ended up liking The Last Story a lot too (and in terms of structure, considering it progresses at breakneck speed sometimes, it... sort of reminds me of pre-Chapter 9 FF13 with regards to mere story pacing, but it doesn't feel restrictive).
Don't get me wrong; the game has issues, but I've enjoyed it so far despite its flaws.
And I'm sold!
FFIX comparisons? Huh...I guess it's mostly for the aesthetic and character design, but I've had more of a Vagrant Story vibe coming from this game over anything else.
Does anybody know if there's possibly a multiple-ending scenario for this game? I'm near the end and the game seems to give you a pretty significant option (
) but I'm not sure if it makes any difference for either storyline or gameplay-wise. I made a new save file after that spot so that I can redo it if necessary, even though the fights leading up to it were really irritating for me.
Does anybody know if there's possibly a multiple-ending scenario for this game? I'm near the end and the game seems to give you a pretty significant option (
The fight against the swordsman gurak--Zepha, I think?--when everybody's urging you to go on ahead but you can still whittle down his lifebar and fight him. You can just exit the fight, but I get the feeling that I'm probably better off by beating him, annoying of a prospect as that is.
That's what I did. Thankfully, almost everyone else was hiding behind columns. Also, I put accelerate up as often as I could and kept 2 heal circles going just in case something went bad.
Nope, no multiple endings. That fight doesn't change anything, you just get experience.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
You'll get stat upgrades and stuff if you do some.
Agility+ rewards are good. (ie: the frog sidequest, which will allow you to swim after you find three frogs). Higher agility allows you to cast magic faster, move a little faster, and increase phys. attack speeds.
Finished the game just now.
All in all, definitely worth my money. While I feel like the game certainly is derivative of many other games (it has major shades of FF9 and Twilight Princess going on) its cast is endearing and its play is fun and in the end, that's all I cared to have. That third stage of the final boss is a PAIN. Finished him at level 63 but MAN how does one compete with his constant OHKOs? Had to spend most of the fight running and praying that Mirania and Yurick's Limit Breaks would come back.
Also
Really, if the game had been subtler about its villains, and if Zael and Calista's romance had been more, I dunno, explored, it would've been a great story. As it was, Zangurak was a compelling foe, and I confess that I found Zael's
My favorite boss fights, though? Zangurak and
. The final boss would've been fine, if the last form hadn't been given mother effing OHKO ROFLSTOMP power.
All in all, definitely worth my money. While I feel like the game certainly is derivative of many other games (it has major shades of FF9 and Twilight Princess going on) its cast is endearing and its play is fun and in the end, that's all I cared to have. That third stage of the final boss is a PAIN. Finished him at level 63 but MAN how does one compete with his constant OHKOs? Had to spend most of the fight running and praying that Mirania and Yurick's Limit Breaks would come back.
Also
screw this nonsense about "we never stopped to ask Dagran how he felt." That's not a good excuse for what he did. Which is why Zael's "I know him as I know myself!" line was ridiculous, because that whole scene was illustrating how little any of them really knew Dagran. Even though the player could see it coming from a mile away.
semi-awkward hug at the end to be almost as cute as Link holding Zelda's hand at the end of Spirit Tracks.
My favorite boss fights, though? Zangurak and
Jirall
Finally finished the game. Beat the final boss after grinding level up from 59 to 65, just straight out melee and keep healing circles up for diffusing.
Thought. Good game, but never felt epic. No quest tracking was disappointing, Xenoblade's cities felt more alive despite obvious effort by the devs here. Hate the fact that some quests are missable. Plot was so utterly predictable, I correctly predicted every single one of the plot twists before it happened.
. Sounds negatives, but really like the game overall.
Thought. Good game, but never felt epic. No quest tracking was disappointing, Xenoblade's cities felt more alive despite obvious effort by the devs here. Hate the fact that some quests are missable. Plot was so utterly predictable, I correctly predicted every single one of the plot twists before it happened.
What's with the tiger. The blue dude appear what? 4 times? Thought he'd played a bigger roles or something
For those near the end of the game, use the summon circles that you come across until it takes you about 5 fights to level up each time. My party members were between level 72 and 75 for the final boss fight, and I didn't have that much trouble after I abandoned the "run up the wall" method.
JordanLMiller
Member
Just starting this. Is the framerate supposed to be this... bad? Like why did they think this was a good idea?
Man you guys were not kidding about the packaging being great. Only played about an hour last night but it was pretty cool... I need to try the different control scheme though, because pushing the stick towards the enemy is just kinda strange (and not being able to move and shoot sucks )
)Mockingbird
Member
Mockingbird
Member
Also, I beat the game at level 63, but I've beaten the game in the JP version before; plus, I have the Guardian Fang sword
bronzodiriace
Member
best graphic on Wii
lightchris
Member
One of the best at least, yeah. But also definitely the worst frame-rate I've yet encountered on Wii (or even any other console game I remember at the moment). That and the low level of difficulty were the biggest letdowns for me in an otherwise good game.
bronzodiriace
Member
Yes, for the framerate I have the same feeling but in the market there are several games with a worse framerate than Last Story.
I want a sequel on the WiiU
Yeah, though it's probably one of the better games with a bad framerate, and one of the only ones that jumps to mind on Wii. Usually it's either badly made games (Two Worlds) or over ambitious ones visually (Crysis 2) that chug like this.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
How do you communicate with other players when in multiplayer mode? Is there a headset?
Adds to the whole cinematic experience. Slowmo always kicking in when awesomeness happens.
Here here. Growing up with N64 automatically makes you immune to most framerate issues.
That said, this game definitely is one of the most unpolished Wii titles I've played. Almost seems like it was rushed.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I don't remember Xenoblade having any framerate issues.
I guess it's just how each game/engine is built/handled.
I guess it's just how each game/engine is built/handled.
Xenoblade was generally okay but I found a major boss battle
Lorithia
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Oh, I think I remember that now.
Adam Prime
hates soccer, is Mexican
Maybe because I played the game off a HDD but I never noticed slow down once playing through it...
Karsticles
Member
I just treat slowdown like slow-mo. Like the game is trying to let me know how epic everything is, Hollywood style.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Problem with the framerate is the majority of the time it's slowed down for me has been just running around. Nothing epic or awesome about that. The ships were especially bad.
And is there any way to command your allies? Like have them move to a certain spot? Had trouble with that
Anyway I'm around chapter 19 or 20 or something. Finally sort of have a feel for the combat, but I don't think have had a boss battle go smoothly yet. At least I'm not struggling with normal battles anymore, early on either the AI kept getting themselves killed because I didn't use gathering or I kept dying constantly because I did use gathering, and there wasn't really any in-between.
And is there any way to command your allies? Like have them move to a certain spot? Had trouble with that
at the Gurak base when you had to take out the snipers, my mages were both in stupid positions and couldn't hit either of the enemies. Ended up having to take them out with the crossbow.
Anyway I'm around chapter 19 or 20 or something. Finally sort of have a feel for the combat, but I don't think have had a boss battle go smoothly yet. At least I'm not struggling with normal battles anymore, early on either the AI kept getting themselves killed because I didn't use gathering or I kept dying constantly because I did use gathering, and there wasn't really any in-between.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
They should of made time freeze like it does with Gale Slash.
Seriously, half the time I used it I was taking damage or lost a life because I was fighting the the slow cursor to turn around to where I can actually hit the enemy.
You also need to run at the wall straight on, if you curve just a bit it won't register. :/
They probably could have implemented it better, I'm just glad that it's unnecessary for the most part. Even spending the two to three seconds it takes to run at a wall before the game realizes you're trying to do that move can be critical, and there've been several occasions where I was knocked out of it while trying to place the cursor.
Oh well, not much point in worrying about it anymore, I think I've done just about everything there is in a normal playthrough and I don't feel like starting a NG+ right now. Not a bad game, but some boss fights were frustrating and it would have been nice if the major twist/s of the story weren't easily foreseen halfway through the game. Overall, I get the feeling like Sakaguchi had this really grand vision and a great concept for a game, but they wound up limited by budget and system specs. I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel to this (and there are plenty of possibilities to open up here, storyline wise, if they really wanted to) on the next generation of hardware, with a similar real time quasi-tactical approach to combat and grant them the ability to put in all of the detail they want without it murdering framerate.
I also wish there were more well-populated areas that had orange bushels to tip over, but that's a digression.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yes. It's a great idea, but making time continue for you to place your AoE circle is ridiculous at times. Once the AoE circle becomes visible to the player, like PoorFate said, time should stop so you can get your positioning right, and that way, the attack will be more effective. It's a shame, really.
Especially since time stops for you to cast Gale. The other downside is the camera and limited range. And the crappy detection. I'll be running into a wall for like, half a minute and the thing is still not letting me run up. Strategy is completely not viable against the final boss.