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The Last Story (US) |OT| One of Wii's epic last breaths.
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BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's nature's bullet-time.
The frame rate can get pretty bad but doesn't really bother me to much anymore. I said before and I'll say it again. If it wasn't for the frame rate I'd rank it above Xenoblade Chronicles (still love) in terms of enjoyment. I am glad these are the last major games I'm playing on the Wii instead of it just being Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. Both of these games (even counting The Last Story's frame rate issues) blow that way and I say that as a Zelda fan that has played and beat nearly all of them.
boiled goose
good with gravy
how long is the game. not sure i can spend 160 hours on another game for a while like i did in xenoblade.
It's much shorter than Xenoblade. I feel it's probably around 20 hours, maybe a little bit less even.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I finished at about 25-6 hours or so. I also did all the side missions except for one I think.
boiled goose
good with gravy
good to hear... might start it soon. only a few games left in my wii backlog...
Just got to chapter 11, fighting the
was the first real neat boss fight I've had. Everything else before that was just brute force and messy.
The jprg cliches are bothering me a lot more than in Xenoblade though. Not sure why.
pirate turtle thing
The jprg cliches are bothering me a lot more than in Xenoblade though. Not sure why.
I think I liked Skyward Sword more, but I agree that Last Story and Xenoblade are a wonderful way to end the Wii's run.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
You'll be glad you have five lives later on in the game. Early to mid game you will probably never die, in the later levels it's not uncommon to get two shotted by some enemies.
Mockingbird
Member
You mean online? Yeah, that fight will be hard unless you guys have leveled up weapons and armor...
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
I hated that fight. It probably wouldn't have been as bad if the enemy telegraphed its spin move. Or maybe it does and I just didn't notice.
I really appreciated having those lives, I was dying a lot at the beginning. Around the middle of the game now and I'm not really using them as much. Haven't lost all 5 in a fight though, so I guess it does make it too easy considering how much I was sucking early on.
No, during the story mode. Somehow I ended up with two other party members, we're all at level 35. I'm considering restarting the game.
I don't remember my party members actually helping much at all in that fight (other than Mirania, of course). Just charge Burst to max and release to kill all the tentacles (at least it did with me, that might vary with level). Then use Vertical Slash to attack the head. Also, if Lowell is in your party, command him to use his Berserker skill so that he doesn't cast Ice (for some stupid reason, there's no way to command him to stop :/).
Maybe the Kraken ate one, like that one Spider boss?
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Do you have the sword Lapis Lazuli? You should of gotten it somewhere before that point. I think it's from one of the chests you come across. It does 5x Burst damage, so all you need to do is charge the burst after 3 hits and release it to kill all the tentacles at once.
Makes the fight much easier.
HisshouBuraiKen
Member
Nah
he stays down for good the second time, the mooks keep flowing in forever though so you may as well just leave.
Mockingbird
Member
Well, I think I've done everything in the game before having to start over. Had a great time. Sad to see it end. I hope there's a prequel or sequel to this. Would love more adventures with these same party members.
I think my game glitched.
What a load of shit.
Ch 19 underground passage. After killing the spider, and keeping Horace alive, I've opened up the next room with some stone monsters...only nothing happens. Horace is stuck behind one of the stone blocks in the previous room. He'll upgrade my equipment, but he won't move. There aren't any search points in the next room so what ever is supposed to trigger the next event fucked up. Which means I need to go back to my previous save.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I did that for Zael. What armor does Syrenne need to look like her artwork? There were a few of them actually that I couldn't figure out.
Upgrade Hunter's Armor and go to the Color menu and remove her chain mail. Then adjust the colors of the pieces to those of the artwork.
For Mirania, Heavy Armor top (remove the armor pieces) and Stealth bottom.
Lowell, his default Feather armor. Just remove armor pieces.
Yurick, the Brave top and bottom.
The white dress Calista got in the artwork isn't in game. Well, it is actually (Calista's Ballgown) but you can't change it's blue color.
Now the only one I'm having trouble with is Dagran. But screw him anyway.
The more you upgrade those pieces the more they start resembling the artwork a bit. Also add extraneous armor pieces too.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
Upgrade Hunter's Armor and go to the Color menu and remove her chain mail. Then adjust the colors of the pieces to those of the artwork.
For Mirania, Heavy Armor top (remove the armor pieces) and Stealth bottom.
Lowell, his default Feather armor. Just remove armor pieces.
Yurick, the Brave top and bottom.
The white dress Calista got in the artwork isn't in game. Well, it is actually (Calista's Ballgown) but you can't change it's blue color.
Now the only one I'm having trouble with is Dagran. But screw him anyway.
The more you upgrade those pieces the more they start resembling the artwork a bit. Also add extraneous armor pieces too.
Thanks. I really liked how upgrading your armor unlocked more cosmetic options. This is something I would like to see included in more RPGs.
Also the party banter.
As for artwork weapons, I almost didn't want to upgrade Zael's Chaos Blade but the upgrade was too good to pass up.
Mockingbird
Member
This game really deserves more attention. The online is lacking in players! I remember when the game first came out in Japan you could jump online anytime and get full rooms!
CartridgeBlower
Member
Sorry if this has been asked to death but I don't want to reread through the thread and spoil things, but...
What's the best way to play this in people's opinions -- Wii Remote with Nunchuk or Classic Controller?
What's the best way to play this in people's opinions -- Wii Remote with Nunchuk or Classic Controller?
There isn't much of a difference. Changing attack to manual mode should be the first thing you do regardless.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Depends on your preference. Wiimote + Nunchuck works just fine, but personally it's Classic Controller Pro for me.
At Chapter 17 so far, and this game is going surprisingly briskly. I'm having characters regularly level up, some times in consecutive battles, and some of them gaining up to four levels from a single battle.
Overall this game to me seems like a typical JRPG made with current generation design trappings - much more linear and scripted than Xenoblade, pretty similar to something like Gears honestly. Didn't expect to get so many of the typical JRPG tropes in this game either. Character designs are really cool though.
Overall this game to me seems like a typical JRPG made with current generation design trappings - much more linear and scripted than Xenoblade, pretty similar to something like Gears honestly. Didn't expect to get so many of the typical JRPG tropes in this game either. Character designs are really cool though.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
So I guess Giant Bomb isn't going to even bother doing a Quick Look of this one, huh? :/
CartridgeBlower
Member
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I thought that scene lasted a bit too long though. The view panned between Zael/Calista and the background way too much imo. Just a minor gripe though.
Really late posting since it was quite a wait to be able to play the game, but it turns out I never got the soundtrack CD because the GameStop clerk that gave me the game didn't know there was a pre-order version. I didn't know that the package would look different and assumed that it would be inside the box. Gah.
I guess I learned my lesson... still pretty sad though about the whole situation. :[
The game though is pretty ok, not quite getting in tune with the combat yet but I think I'll figure out how it works. Played some online co-op as well and that was funny.
I guess I learned my lesson... still pretty sad though about the whole situation. :[
The game though is pretty ok, not quite getting in tune with the combat yet but I think I'll figure out how it works. Played some online co-op as well and that was funny.
idlethreats
Member
I confess that I haven't started my copy of The Last Story yet, but I just read 1UP's review and the opening paragraph is one of the most beautiful descriptions of the emotional impact of games that I've ever read, so I thought I'd share:
Makes me want to get right on w/my playthrough! I told myself that I'd finish Xenoblade first though...1UP said:
you are better off doing that anyway, xb fits that discription way more than tls ever could. and you shouldn't rush through xenoblade, especially not for tls.
if you wanna play tls, take a break and play it now, but DON'T make your experience of the better of both games suffer for it.
Mockingbird
Member
I agree with the review in that when I reached the end with nothing left to do, I did not want it to end at all -- simply cause I didn't want to part with the characters. Now I'm replaying it, even though I had no intention to!
I think that 1up review really captured why I liked The Last Story so much. I really cared about the characters and I wanted to see their journey through. The battle system being such a pleasure to play helped as well.
For JRPGs, the cast is a huge factor in my enjoyment of the game. I liked the entire main cast of The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles, while I couldn't care about the cast of Final Fantasy XIII so I never finished it (To be fair that's due to my PS3 getting stolen before I could finish it...but I'd stalled for a few months at that point anyway and I don't have the desire to start it again).
For JRPGs, the cast is a huge factor in my enjoyment of the game. I liked the entire main cast of The Last Story and Xenoblade Chronicles, while I couldn't care about the cast of Final Fantasy XIII so I never finished it (To be fair that's due to my PS3 getting stolen before I could finish it...but I'd stalled for a few months at that point anyway and I don't have the desire to start it again).
Man, the people able to play this are lucky.
I rented it from Gamefly, put it in my Wii, and my Wii is unable to read the disc. It's not a problem with the game either, my Wii can barely read my new copy of Xenoblade (it takes like 3-4 tries, and it can crash during play). I'd get a new one, but Wii U is in two months so I can just play it on that.
At least I can just buy the game from them at a reduced price for future use. *sighs* Still...
I rented it from Gamefly, put it in my Wii, and my Wii is unable to read the disc. It's not a problem with the game either, my Wii can barely read my new copy of Xenoblade (it takes like 3-4 tries, and it can crash during play). I'd get a new one, but Wii U is in two months so I can just play it on that.
At least I can just buy the game from them at a reduced price for future use. *sighs* Still...
WTF at this boss battle. Does anyone have any suggestions for the late boss
? I've been at this for an hour and can't seem to get it down below 1/2 life before either I die too many times or the person who's magic I'm supposed to use dies.
Edit: Nevermind, beat it
Mithra from Chapter 34
Edit: Nevermind, beat it
Mockingbird
Member
WTF at this boss battle. Does anyone have any suggestions for the late boss? I've been at this for an hour and can't seem to get it down below 1/2 life before either I die too many times or the person who's magic I'm supposed to use dies.Mithra from Chapter 34
Edit: Nevermind, beat it
For that you're supposed to use Long Silence in order to get the boss to come down and fight or parry its silence attack back at him to lure it down.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Okay! New recruit here. I've been so backlogged (I just finally beat Uncharted 3, ahem), and was going to do Skyrim or Kingdom's of Amular next... but screw it. I have both The Last Story and Xenoblade staring me in the face. Decided to start with The Last Story.
I'm kind of excited. The general consensus is poor on the game, no? Well, I'm like 15 min in so far, and the voice acting is great, the game looks pretty good, and the combat seems intriguing. I hope the story holds up, I miss Sakaguchi.
I'm kind of excited. The general consensus is poor on the game, no? Well, I'm like 15 min in so far, and the voice acting is great, the game looks pretty good, and the combat seems intriguing. I hope the story holds up, I miss Sakaguchi.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
Member
I think the general consensus is that the game is good with a vocal minority trashing it because it didn't compare to Xenoblade for them apparently.
nope, the general consensus is, that the game is very unpolished and borderline bad but at the same time incredibly fun. Voice acting is superb but everything else is kinda meh. It's like a good bmovie. It's shit but you can't stop watching it.
The game being bad has nothing to do with other rpgs (and I use the term very loosely, because it isn't very much rpg in it) being better.
I am glad we all got to play it, but I won't be bitter if it doesn't pop up in any "best games ever" lists (except if it's best voice acting ever ofc)
edit: to be clear: this is not entirely my own opinion, that's what most people in the JP and EU OT agreed on.
Aaaaaand done! Personally had a blast throughout the entire thing, and I'd heavily vote it as having one of the best casts in a RPG. I especially loved how they handled things in the end,
. 20-30 hour RPG's are now my personal sweet spot so this was the perfect length, and the pacing was nice. The only complaint I had was how ugly the game was, and not necessarily graphically but just bland. There was barely any color to the levels, and I felt like I was playing Gears of War all over again. However, other than that I would say that it was one of the better games I've played this year. I had initially imported the CE and remember being pissed that the day my copy shipped the game was announced to be localized. Now I couldn't be happier that I got the CE and an American copy, since I'd have been even more upset to have missed out on such a special set of a great game.
the wedding and how the game continued on for a few more chapters despite already beating the final boss.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Just did Chapter 7, the Stargazer scene. It was great! Beautifully directed. So Sakaguchi. These characters are wonderful and refreshing. One of the best jrpg's casts in ages in the genre.