No; you're right, the Vita version is up to 2.2 now, but the early one-star reviews (the number of which is more than double any other star rating) are all at the top of the review list and are all heavily recommended. Hopefully future patches will get things sorted -- but it certainly doesn't help matters to have people who bought the game this early already be pestered to download a patch just to play the game.
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The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki |OT| The Empire Strikes Back
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No; you're right, the Vita version is up to 2.2 now, but the early one-star reviews (the number of which is more than double any other star rating) are all at the top of the review list and are all heavily recommended. Hopefully future patches will get things sorted -- but it certainly doesn't help matters to have people who bought the game this early already be pestered to download a patch just to play the game.
encephalon
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The PS3 ver. is at 3 1/2. If it doesn't drop off the sales charts like a rock, I'm guessing it'll be that ver.
Downloading the patch is actually pretty easy and fast. The problem is that it doesn't change the fact that it's still a game with lengthy load times. Going in and out of battles is especially inexcusable.
Disgaeamad
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Much like Zero and Ao, you can start on Nightmare immediately. It's not that bad either.
indeed this loading issue is very strange from falcom imho.
maybe future sen no kiseki ports will make load times better lol
Better than starting a fresh game of 3rd on Nightmare, I'm sure.
(aka: i'm not doing that again.)
It is a strange thing, but I've seen it before. I know I might sound like a broken record with this, but Ys VI had MAJOR issues when it first came out years and years ago- because the way the Napishtim system ran didn't like all graphics cards. At all. Either the game crashed on load, or it loaded with scrambled graphics, or no graphics at all.
It took Falcom a couple of patches to sort through the issues, iirc.
Shouta
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Ah. I just went straight to hard. I didn't really look at the message that was there.
It's odd that Falcom didn't bother adding an auto-screen adjustment pice of code. I have to manually adjust the screen because it clips on my TV. However, it doesn't clip when I output it for streaming. So weird.
Oh, I didn't know the Vita's load times were a lot worse than the PS3's loading.
Reluctant-Hero
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So what's the benefit to slashing enemies with your weapon before initiating battle? It looks like they're momentarily stunned, but I don't see any benefit once the actual battle begins.
Sometimes they get stunned and you get an advantage, starting first in that battle.
Reluctant-Hero
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Great, thank you!
Yes, especially since their personal development gets automatically recorded in the persons notebook. Such a great feature.
It really makes every NPC count for something. They feel like real people.
It actually doesn't do anything if you slash them from the front. You need to slash them from behind. Which you can do easily by repeatedly slashing them and moving behind them during the time they're stunned. If you hit them from behind, they "faint" and you get the first move... also some buffs and stuff.
encephalon
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In town right now the framerate is like ... 10.
I'm in chapter 4 now, but I had an observation as long as you've been through chapter 2, if I recall correctly.
Consider this spoilers for 3rd and Sen (chapter 2+):
If you want to see it, here:
https://twitter.com/FloofyGaming/status/386012663823622144
It's kind of a cracky observation, but one that I couldn't shake. Now that I've compared it, I feel a little better.
With the elevator in the old school building.
Consider this spoilers for 3rd and Sen (chapter 2+):
If you want to see it, here:
https://twitter.com/FloofyGaming/status/386012663823622144
It's kind of a cracky observation, but one that I couldn't shake. Now that I've compared it, I feel a little better.
RyougaSaotome
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End of chapter 3, beginning of chapter 4 spoilers:
Seeing Olivier acting like an older brother and not his typical self is super off putting but also sweet. I love that he's totally chill with his siblings and they actually like him. I always pictured his family kind of being a mess, but he's a good big brother.
It's also weird seeing people actually like Osborne, but I suppose that's what happens when we've only ever seen him from an outsider's point of view. I also had no idea Lecter was gonna pop up in the game since I assumed he'd be dealing with Crossbell stuff the whole time. With the game building toward the big Ao event, I'm really curious to see where they take this.
ALSO MY THEORY IS THAT SARA IS ALSO A FORMER MERCENARY. I AM PROBABLY WRONG.
It's also weird seeing people actually like Osborne, but I suppose that's what happens when we've only ever seen him from an outsider's point of view. I also had no idea Lecter was gonna pop up in the game since I assumed he'd be dealing with Crossbell stuff the whole time. With the game building toward the big Ao event, I'm really curious to see where they take this.
ALSO MY THEORY IS THAT SARA IS ALSO A FORMER MERCENARY. I AM PROBABLY WRONG.
Sounds like I might have eeked ahead of you a bit. I'm just done with the old building in chapter 4.
Still. On that spoiler above?
Can Sara really have been 'just' a mercenary? I'd almost think that's selling her short. She seems like she is much, much more well connected than that.
RyougaSaotome
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I knoooooooooooooooow. And yeah, I haven't done the old building yet.
Continuing said spoiler line.
I knoooow. I was thinking perhaps the church or something? Maybe a former bracer?
I was about to say that 'she doesn't act like she's from the church' - then I remembered Ein. Yeeah.
--on somewhat unrelated note, there's a bunch of us in an IRC channel. Some of you guys should join us. we're in #falcom on rizon.
Right, and that's one of the main things that's bothering me about this game. I feel really awful because I haven't been able to muster the enthusiasm to play. This trend of niche RPGs becoming school life sims is not clicking with me at all.Man, I didn't expect this game to ape Persona so much. Even the school music sounds like Meguro.
I can definitely agree with this. I can handle it being a fun gimmick to set the stage for bigger and better things as the story moves on, but I can see it becoming really tiresome if it follows the formula too closely for too long. I barely managed to force myself through P3 and I never finished P4 because of this. It doesn't even have to do with the fact that I finished high school a decade ago. I'm fine playing as schoolkids, but it's just way too overplayed! I want to give Falcom the benefit of the doubt but the fact that academic points are an actual statistic makes me nervous.
Also wtf Crow just stole my mira.
RyougaSaotome
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I was thinking about this the other day, but jeezus it feels like the Highlands are bigger than any other area in the entirety of all Kiseki games.
Fucking huge. Looking forward to seeing what else they got in store.
I've also been enjoying the books, though it looks like I missed one. Hope it pops up in the shop soon. =(
Fucking huge. Looking forward to seeing what else they got in store.
I've also been enjoying the books, though it looks like I missed one. Hope it pops up in the shop soon. =(
encephalon
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Though I get the feeling that Falcom has wanted to do a school themed game since the Royal Academy scenario in FC, I can't really help but feel disappointed that a setting as promising as the Erebonian Empire is being used for the school setup. Prologue/Ch. 1:
The school setting itself is not nearly as annoying as the boob gag being the basis of some pathetic conflict in the beginning of the game.
I wonder what scenario we'll get next. Military?
RyougaSaotome
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I'm thinking mercenary actually.
encephalon
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Well that would certainly work. But I have to wonder, with every coming Eiyuu numeral, it seems like the Bracer guild is going to seem awfully redundant unless they make a change to how they handle the basic Kiseki quest system. Perhaps they can separate institutional interests from more general community aid quests and tie those to personal character imperatives. In fact, I almost want to see this game end with the characters graduating and the game's story continuing in some other capacity (which won't happen, I know).
RyougaSaotome
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Hey, Ryouga!
I finished chapter 4 a bit ago. I'm borrowing your window so I can THROW MYSELF THE HELL OUT OF IT. --stuff broke my head.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Loving the capital. It's crazy to think we're finally here. Also lol CHAPTER 4 MID SPOILERS LOCATION STUFF
Getting housed in the old Bracer headquarters. This really is some plan to raise the next gen of Erebonian Bracers, isn't it? Hahaha.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Ill have to load mine up later on, have not opened it up yet since getting back. D:
Am crossing fingers that the patch folks are talking about helped with the loading times, since that was my major concern from what I was reading from JP users who bought it. Seems like if it wasnt for that everything else should be pretty good!
Am crossing fingers that the patch folks are talking about helped with the loading times, since that was my major concern from what I was reading from JP users who bought it. Seems like if it wasnt for that everything else should be pretty good!
Hours Left
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Reading all these reactions is making me so sad. I wanna play this too...
encephalon
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Maybe by the time you get to play it, it'll be a polished product.
RyougaSaotome
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It's so weird hearing my name get called all the time in game.
I'm not used to this from Japanese games. v_v
I'm not used to this from Japanese games. v_v
You'll need sharp eyes to see it. I'll probably have an image posted on my twitter account in the morning, though. It's not openly said. It's a detail to catch though, in part of the scene.
It'll break you. I promise.
I mean. How many times have I jumped out of your window? xD;;
RyougaSaotome
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Aw man, that was awesome. T_T
Chapter 4/Ao no Kiseki spoilers:
Chapter 4/Ao no Kiseki spoilers:
I'm super glad Laura and Fie managed to figure their shit out, but holy shit it's Randy's uncle's fault that Fie lost everything essentially. FUCK THAT GUY.
Shouta
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Midway through Ch 2 and I'm loving it so far. The school setting actually works well and it really isn't that intrusive. It gives off the P3/P4 vibe without all the day to day grinding that was apparent in those games. It also has the standard Kiseki hubs too which really break it up nicely.
During the Ch 2 hub, the team sits down for dinner and just talks. I realized, I don't think I've seen that in a 3D RPG in ages. It's awesome to see the characters just chat about the situation.
During the Ch 2 hub, the team sits down for dinner and just talks. I realized, I don't think I've seen that in a 3D RPG in ages. It's awesome to see the characters just chat about the situation.
xenosaga ep 1?
Shouta
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Xenosaga is a game!?
twentytwo22
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Finally finished Chapter 3 and started Chapter 4. Things are certainly starting to heat up and I love how it parallels Zero so well.
I'm not bothered by the Persona-esque stuff because while that is the meat of a Persona game (since 3 anyway), this is just once per chapter at the beginning (so once every 5-10 hours?) and it is essentially just assigning a point system for something that (more basically) has existed in previous games. It also allows you to learn just a little more about specific characters (whoever you take a liking to or an interest in) early on.
Beginning of chapter 3 non-important non-story related spoiler(?):
Also, speculation at the end of chapter 3:
I'm not bothered by the Persona-esque stuff because while that is the meat of a Persona game (since 3 anyway), this is just once per chapter at the beginning (so once every 5-10 hours?) and it is essentially just assigning a point system for something that (more basically) has existed in previous games. It also allows you to learn just a little more about specific characters (whoever you take a liking to or an interest in) early on.
Beginning of chapter 3 non-important non-story related spoiler(?):
The mid-term exam sequence felt ripped STRAIGHT from Persona though, lol.
Also, speculation at the end of chapter 3:
Sharon = masked man? Are we supposed to be thinking that?
RyougaSaotome
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I will fight you. Zero/Ao/Sen's meal scenes actually make me happy.
Tokitowa's tea party sequences made me want to kill a large bear.
Response to Twentytwo22's chapter 3 spoiler:
I never even considered that, lol. I just figured he'd departed on the ship, and Sharon was just lurking in the shadows watching. Hm.
Also, I KNEW IT. Chapter 4 2nd day spoilers:
I knew Sara was a former Bracer, especially with those skills. So I guess once the guilds fell under in the capital, she got drafted into the school. Hearing Olivier talk about how the Liberl incident changed him and helped him decide how to move forward was pretty cool. He's also a fucking troll. His relationship with his little sister is hilarious, and I love how he was egging her on.
Yes, Class VII. Olivier and his family are bonkers.
Yes, Class VII. Olivier and his family are bonkers.
Also Machias stuff:
Holy shit that sucks balls. I figured he'd say something like his 'older sister' got died in an accident caused by a noble, but nope. She was driven into depression and killed herself. What. The. Fuck.
lol, you are right indeed!
encephalon
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Oh my god, the Ch. 3 old school ruins fight.
And I'm a normal mode peasant.
RyougaSaotome
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encephalon
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Apparently getting one question wrong in the week long test is enough to bump you down to the 700 range and the game registers that you did "poorly?" Geez.