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The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword |OT| Home of Punkin' Chunkin' Champion 2011
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TheGreatMightyPoo
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Dam, all this "4th better than the 3rd dungeon" is making me nervous because I haven't played the 4th one yet.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
It's all in the eye of the beholder.
Some find "fetch quests" game-ruining, some find them tolerable, some find them amusing.
Sure they could cut down on them but I think that's a formula they use as game design, they are pattered to recycle concepts.
I came across the Tear "fetch quest" and honestly thought "this is basic and boring" and then really enjoyed it because it got really tense(for me) near the end of the trial, almost Resident Evil-like.
I can see what you mean though, I just don't think it's a gamebreaker and obviously for you, it killed your mood and vibe for the game.
I just got to the 4th dungeon, and while the padding leading up to it is the Frankenstein's monster of stupid shit from TP and other bad design brought back to life, it has given me the chance to become much more fond of the art. I loved the concept art, but my initial impression of in-game art was pretty meh. I think Motion Plus rage made me somewhat myopic because I'm coming back around to loving it. The entrance to the 4th dungeon in particular is very pretty, imo.
The entire 4th dungeon is the most beautiful. I go back and forth between whether I like the third or fourth dungeon better.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
No way the music can be better in the 4th, can it????
After a very "filler" like part after the 6th dungeon I am back to the awesome stuff.
For me this is an amazing Zelda game with some minor issues which are mostly issues that have carried over from past Zelda games but not glaring enough to overshadow the awesomeness of it all.
Just went through the last part of the desert to help the last dragon. That little dungeon/area was great. It used I think all your items and was almost like a little zelda speed run. Very fun especially to see how much better I've gotten since the start of the game. I made quick work of all the enemies. Now I'm about to enter what seems like the last true dungeon.
The 3rd dungeon's music is the best dungeon music in the game (especially when it changes). The 4th is pretty mediocre, but is still decent.
Lord_Byron28
Member
See this is the problem with the Zelda fanbase (in reference to such varied opinions. Not saying this is a bad opinion). I enjoyed the pre- 4th dungeon as you call it 'stupid shit'. I also enjoyed that stuff in TP. I honestly can't comprehend why people hate it other than it occurs outside of a dungeon and people believe that all gameplay should occur inside of the dungeon and everything outside of it wastes their time.
The end of the game is filled with those mini-Zelda experiences. Truly, the design of some of these puzzles/experiences is much higher than any previous Zelda. T_T
nckillthegrimace
Member
I'm fine with fetch quests if they lead to you doing something interesting or fun, which I think they do most of the time in Skyward Sword. I mean Zelda has kind of always been about collecting shit, be it a small key or some new song to play or whatever, so I don't think it's so wildly out of place when they ask you to go get that shit and then something wacky happens. Of course, collecting shit is just collecting shit if the way you collect shit isn't fun or challenging, like when the shit that must be collected is gated behind a puzzle made specifically to guard against you collecting shit, but there's is a very specific part of the game where they have you collecting shit for the hell of it, which is, of course, not very much fun at all.
Yeah, I understand how someone could really like
the Silent Realm/Tears
returning to the earth temple to get water
grap3fruitman
Banned
The trials are the most infuriating and stressful parts of the game. I just finished the last one and I kind of want to fly over to Japan and punch Shigeru in the face and when he gets up I'll say "It looks like you've failed the trial. You can retry as many times as you want." Then I'd punch him again, repeat it and fly back to the US.
Slurpy2k20
Member
what the fuck
TADTONES?? UNDERWATER? WITH CONTROLS I DESPISE? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??! I swear to God its like they're trying so hard to troll me.
Garcia
Member
Holy crap at the story events post 6th dungeon...can't believe this game got me teary eyed way before it ends. That was so sad!! :'( ....
And god damn.... I feel the power now!! Fucking
never felt so good before!, and I have it in my hands. On my way to what comes next. Excited!
Quick Edit: Groose just became one of my favorite NPCs of Zelda. He's seriously awesome =).
And god damn.... I feel the power now!! Fucking
True Master Sword
Quick Edit: Groose just became one of my favorite NPCs of Zelda. He's seriously awesome =).
Togglesworlh
Banned
George Carlin is funny?
I enjoy reading this thread and seeing people on both sides of the fence call the other side out for being too extremely far into their respective side.
I'm stuck.
Pre second dungeon spoilers:
Pre second dungeon spoilers:
I have 3/5 parts for the key to open the door. One of the parts is behind a bunch of rocks I need to blow up. This is sorta at the bottom of the hills where you need to sprint. There's the tower that's fallen over, and the bombs are next to it. I have no idea how to get the bombs over to blow away the rocks. It's just too far away.
Android18a
Member
You have to go into the area with the heat that sets you on fire. Head in and take the first exit on the right. That takes you round the way to the other side of those rocks.
Metroid Killer
Member
What lesson exactly? So many sites (big and small) have slammed 10/10 at SS, praising both the controls and for reinventing the franchise, a lot of reviews claim that it's the best Zelda ever.
I'm glad you learned your lesson, but a handful of negative reviews should always be held up against what points are discussed in the majority of the reviews.
It's like what Amir0x said: The controls work like shit for him adding the annoying hand-holding makes it a so-so experience, but for those who can control it just fine and don't mind the hand-holding as much as him, it will be a fantastic game for them.
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
Hence the statement 'my early impression so far'.
I obivously thought the build up to the first/second dungeons was very good. I could not comment if it is a absolute worst part of the game as I am only just passed the 2nd dungeon.
Does it really dumbfound you that much?
I can tell if I will like, dislike, or love a song from the first couple of seconds I here it. Same as when reading books, watching movies, or playing games. Though the time may vary depending on the format.
Metroid Killer
Member
Yup. Minimum dmamage has been changed from 1/4 of a heart to half a heart now, and generally you'll find less hearts in grass etc. I think this is the first time in a 3D Zelda where you actually want to have a potion on you most of the time just in case.
Rolling them is by far the most uncomfortable thing in the game. Throwing them is simple, but you have to point the remote so low down that if you're reclining on the sofa it becomes difficult to do the motion without returning to the neutral stance.
all
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Just done DUngeon six and the post dungeon story was great, though i'll be honest
I was excited to go back in time, and I thought "OMG we're going to be able to explore the Lanryu areas in the past in their full glory Then i noticed the two locked doors.......but when Zelda and Impa mentioned the battle had only just taken place and the world would be ravaged I realised it would all be complete devestation anyway
Xane
Member
Hm weird.. I liked that part. Mainly because I liked the dungeon's atmosphere.
Post-sixth dungeon spoilers for a gossip stone in Eldin Volcano:
Aounoma is trolling with that gossip stone that says "Rumor has it a dragon lives in the volcano. Do you need to hear that again?". Saying no, he says "Rumor has it that you always understand everything the first time it is told to you."
Am I the only one who thought the first dungeon boss was terrible? I mean
the whole thing about "you gotta hold the sword here, then quickly change it to this position" was such a bullshit idea and added nothing of value to the fight. Then the other stage was just reacting quickly and slashing. Really disappointed with that one.
I am right before the last boss fight stuff. The last dungeon was great as was everything that came after it.
Now some story stuff:
I'm gonna tackle the last boss tomorrow. Amazing game and again the good far outweighs the bad. By the third dungeon all the motion controls clicked for me and now I'm just messing these bad guys up! Great fun.
I liked the mash up dungeon sky keep much better than the mash up dungeon in WW which I think was just some dungeon bosses. Those mini dungeons were really fun, condensed challenges. The Stalfos fight in particular was satisfying.
I was so happy to see Zelda awake again but even though the game tried to make it seem like that was the end with everyone happy I knew the shit was about to hit the fan. Following other people's advice I made a copy of my save to go back and do side quests with.
17.5 hours in
[pre-5 spoilers]
this game reminds me of majora's mask more than anything. it's probably the structure of the hub world and the abundance of character-based sidequests. the focus in this game was definitely dungeons dungeons dungeons. the surface is a big dungeon with actual dungeons being mini dungeons. [pre 4 spoilers]
[pre-5 spoilers]
so i'm in lanayru, and i gotta say, i think going in with low expectations for pre-4 helped a lot. i didn't mind the tear hunting quest. it was actually kinda fun, and not like phantom hourglass's dumb guard-will-kill-you thing like i was expecting. the redo of the first dungeon wasn't that bad either, and once i went into it, i remember that going into previously completed dungeons was listed as a feature in interviews. kinda wish there was more to getting around and more to the redo of the dungeon aside from killing tough enemies, but it wasn't that bad at all.
the fourth dungeon itself was pretty good. i like the whip, and i was kinda iffy on it at e310. it works well as a sort of superfast grappling hook. i don't think it's the best dungeon in a zelda, but i did like it. the boss fight started off kinda just alright
THEN, SUDDENLY
HOLY FUCK IT'S STANDING UP
HOLY FUCK IT ATTACKED ME WITH THREE ARMS AT ONCE
HOLY FUCK I CAN USE ITS WEAPON AGAINST IT
HOLY FUCK I AM EVERYTHING
yeah, that was pretty badass.
the fourth dungeon itself was pretty good. i like the whip, and i was kinda iffy on it at e310. it works well as a sort of superfast grappling hook. i don't think it's the best dungeon in a zelda, but i did like it. the boss fight started off kinda just alright
THEN, SUDDENLY
HOLY FUCK IT'S STANDING UP
HOLY FUCK IT ATTACKED ME WITH THREE ARMS AT ONCE
HOLY FUCK I CAN USE ITS WEAPON AGAINST IT
HOLY FUCK I AM EVERYTHING
yeah, that was pretty badass.
this game reminds me of majora's mask more than anything. it's probably the structure of the hub world and the abundance of character-based sidequests. the focus in this game was definitely dungeons dungeons dungeons. the surface is a big dungeon with actual dungeons being mini dungeons. [pre 4 spoilers]
and surface dungeons are revisited as well as the actual dungeons. it's hard to complain about so much of it, but i think the best solution would have been to save the tear hunting and actual dungeon repeats for sidequests. it does slow the pacing down some, but i'm not finding it to be this huge game breaking awful thing.
TheDrowningMan
Member
Really enjoyed the third boss - like the second he is piss easy, but a lot of fun regardless.
Asked this question earlier but no one responded. Anyone else getting faint horizontal scanlines? I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's apparent when there is a lot of white on the screen. Not a big issue, but it's just that I don't recall any official videos having the effect present.
I get some faint scanlines but I remember seeing them in Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. It's normal.
Metroid Killer
Member
Odd. As opposed to you, quite a few peopler experience Vertical Banding in this game(and TP and WW for some reason...)
"Vertical banding is usually used to describe specifically the vertical banding issues on LCD displays. It's caused by a difficulty in controlling the vertically controlled arrays of LCD pixels and keeping them all at the same voltages, etc. IT will vary from display to display, and is usually most visible on green, which causes itself to be seen on smooth images especially skies and the like.
Note that these will be vertical kinds of faint stripes in the image across the screen. OTher banding/contouring problems can appear on any display and in other directions because of bit-depth problems. Many LCDs have other contouring/banding problems besides VB."
For some reason Vertical Banding has been more common in recent Zelda games compared to Nintendo's other titles.
Noticable on Link's hat
Vertical banding in TP
I have this problem too.
It pales in comparison to the occasional dead pixels courtesy of my Wii's overheated GPU.
I just did that part. It wasn't frustrating or completely uninteresting. I was surprised since people have made such a big deal about it. It was the second thing to feel like padding, and just like the first thing it wasn't as bad as people have made it out to be. Then again, people made a big deal about
the pre-dungeon 2 key hunt and the sand sea
Metroid Killer
Member
This is like the best praise any game can ever getAnihawk said:
... I played the entire game lying down...
Funny. I've played it sitting down this whole time and have had absolutely no problems.