March Climber
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Not if she’s from a different universe
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The Marvels has a “legacy” character cameo in its credit scene (Spoilers)
Futaleufu
Member
Did Tony Stark sacrificed himself in every universe?Not if she’s from a different universe
Did Cap stayed in the past in every universe?
Opening that can of worms is a terrible idea
Soodanim
Member
MCU worked because it was serialised stories scaled up. A TV show that has a definite goal has three story lengths:
- Short: the episode, or in this context the movie
- Medium: the season, or in this context the Phase
- Long: the entire show, or in this context the Saga
The Multiverse Saga lacks Medium stories. They're vital, because without them you're asking people to be invested enough in Short stories that aren't always hits because of the eventual pay off of the Long story. But the Long story is a swing and a miss without Medium stories, because Smalls feed into Mediums and Mediums feed into the Long.
It's not the first time Wanda's killed innocents and survived. If she returns and has the choice to team up with Kang or whoever and doesn't, she's automatically less evil by default. You should be right, but I wouldn't write it off. We didn't see a corpse and Wanda's been good before. If she makes a big enough save she can shift back into the grey area she's spent so much time in.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
They're opening it.
Avengers: Secret Wars is coming in 2027. You just know that they'll shoe horn in multiple versions of Cap, Iron Man, Black Widow etc, plus a load of Marvel characters not yet seen in the MCU (Hyperion, Blue Marvel, the Living Tribunal).
That's where all this is leading. God Emperor Doom and Battleworld.
StueyDuck
Member
Eh the days of these sorts of post credits being interesting are long gone
It's all just memberberries with Disney.
I'd rather they nuked the whole thing and started fresh with X-men and fantastic four with a fresh cast and for the love that is all that is holy, people who can actually write.
It's all just memberberries with Disney.
I'd rather they nuked the whole thing and started fresh with X-men and fantastic four with a fresh cast and for the love that is all that is holy, people who can actually write.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
So very, very, very, very tired.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
FunkMiller
Gold Member
It's a strategy that removes any need for creativity whatsoever. They can just continue to crowbar in 'memberberry returns of legacy characters, and not have to bother with all that annoying new character development stuff.
It also removes any tension or stakes whatsoever, because there's always another universe, with another version of the character. They'll make money off the nostalgia shit, but this franchise has completely run out of creative steam, and sooner or latter, they're going to pay for that at the box office. Probably with the Marvels flopping badly, after every other under performance they've had this year.
Soodanim
Member
ManaByte
Banned
They’ve already shown a different universe where the Blip never happened because they killed Thanos.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I was hoping that they'd completely recast and revamp the X-Men to be more like the comics rather than what Fox did with the material.
And I am with others here, in that even though I think I have a fair grasp on all of the various multi-verse threads and I am enjoying Loki, it's feeling messy. The longer they put off the films that are supposed to advance the overall story of the Marvel universe it feels like a whole lot of elaborate wheel spinning. Like, Kang has only been in one movie, and yet because of Loki and whatever other mentions of him constantly, I am already Kanged out. Over that character. He isn't even compelling, or sinister, he's just bleh. Release his movie and kill the fucker already so we can move onto interesting stuff like mutants, watching serious-minded characters like Doctor Strange have to deal with the absurdity of Deadpool, the horror underpinnings of Blade, get back to Peter Parker and his now comic-accurate life in NYC, etc.
And I am with others here, in that even though I think I have a fair grasp on all of the various multi-verse threads and I am enjoying Loki, it's feeling messy. The longer they put off the films that are supposed to advance the overall story of the Marvel universe it feels like a whole lot of elaborate wheel spinning. Like, Kang has only been in one movie, and yet because of Loki and whatever other mentions of him constantly, I am already Kanged out. Over that character. He isn't even compelling, or sinister, he's just bleh. Release his movie and kill the fucker already so we can move onto interesting stuff like mutants, watching serious-minded characters like Doctor Strange have to deal with the absurdity of Deadpool, the horror underpinnings of Blade, get back to Peter Parker and his now comic-accurate life in NYC, etc.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Doesn't really help that we've seen Kang be defeated several times now either.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Doesn't really help that we've seen Kang be defeated several times now either.
Pretty sure they’ll course correct and dump Kang as the big bad.
Papa_Wisdom
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Papa_Wisdom
Member
See my post above yours!
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Now they just need to reestablish She-Hulk as not cannon / another universe.
Soodanim
Member
If we're cannon-ing anyone, let's cannon Rambeau into the sun. I'll take She-Hulk over her as canon, at least I felt something when I watched her even if it was mild annoyance. Rambeau is completely and utterly forgettable.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
She-hulk tried to establish mutants as commonplace on their earth, it made no sense.
ManaByte
Banned
No it didn’t.
Aside from a background Easter Egg about Wolverine on a tabloid website most people didn’t notice, there were no Mutants in She-Hulk.
Ms Marvel was the first mention of Mutation in the MCU and Namor is the first to call themselves a Mutant.
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Wasn’t that immortal lawyer guy a mutant and that girl from the good place with super human strength? (Forget their names)
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Pop
Member
Sigh...
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
That image doesn't make me excited at all..
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Is this meant to be some big earth shattering reveal in the post credits?
Because nobody will give a fuck. Nobody will care. The X Men universe died like a wet fart. Nobody cares about another version of Maria Rambeau. Nobody cared about the other ones.
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ManaByte
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SidViscous
Member
x-men, and a character called binary. Disney really are doing a u-turn on this woke stuff! (/s)
This ^ I can't even name her actress, I vaguely recall her being shit in Wandavision where they sort of just did a "oh look she's got powers now" from being caught in some magic explosion and called it a day. Dr.Strange couldn't find a multiverse where anybody cares about this character.
This ^ I can't even name her actress, I vaguely recall her being shit in Wandavision where they sort of just did a "oh look she's got powers now" from being caught in some magic explosion and called it a day. Dr.Strange couldn't find a multiverse where anybody cares about this character.
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Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
Sounds good, maybe she's a real geek.
Soodanim
Member
It's all relative. People popped for Xavier in his chair in Strange 2, and compared to the current list of Avengers (not that Rambeau is even at that level) that wet fart universe is superstars just by being established. Plus, of course, Hugh Jackman's Wolverine who is of the most recognisable faces in comic book movies, up there with RDJ, Thor, and Tobey Maguire.
X-Men will freshen up the MCU, same as Fantastic Four. They're desperately needed, too.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
A new X Men universe might… but just rehashing a series that fell off a fucking cliff?
Not gonna cut it. Lazy.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
No it’s this guy:
So, a guy that was in one movie from nearly twenty years ago that was universally despised by everyone? Played by an old aged pensioner?
That‘s the big revelation that’s going to get the fanbase excited for what the next stage of the MCU is?
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Ok there's more than that going on
You don't think the SJW/Feminazi stuff ruined the MCU and turned alot of people off? Like how those politics ruined every other IP: DC, the Non MCU movies, Star Wars, Marvel Comics. DC Comics. The list goes on and on
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Who's saying that? Everyone loves Jackman. But one character can't sustain the rehashing of an entire universe that fell apart. Also, he's off in Deadpool land, which is doing its own thing.
Trying to make an increasingly bored and tired fanbase excited for a cinematic universe... by bringing back another tired and boring cinematic universe is idiotic.
They should be creating a brand new X-Men universe, and tying that in.
ManaByte
Banned
No it’s not. Deadpool 3 is the direct setup for Secret Wars. Jackman will be in that too.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Oh great, so the only thing that felt in any way different from the MCU sludge is now being included in the MCU sludge.
Fuck me, how can a series that was so good become so bad. It's clear everyone with any creative writing talent fucked off a long time ago.
The next few years of regurgitating old actors in characterisations well past their sell by date is going to get extremely embarrassing.
Hopefully The Marvels flops as hard as it looks like its going to, and Loki continues to perform badly, so there's some sort of rethink.
Who'd have ever thought the MCU would be needing course correction bullshit like the DCEU?
Badlucktroll
Member
DKehoe
Member
If it's just "check it out, that guy from before" then that's not that exciting to me at this point, particularly in a genre that's so saturated.
ManaByte
Banned
He’s the MCU Wolverine until after Secret Wars.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I don't think the post credit scenes really matter anyway.
Not many people are going to see this movie.
https://deadline.com/2023/11/the-marvels-box-office-opening-projection-1235595720/
Not many people are going to see this movie.
https://deadline.com/2023/11/the-marvels-box-office-opening-projection-1235595720/
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
The post credit scene has leaked onto social media, if anyone's interested. It's about what you'd expect.
Beast is entirely CGI by the looks of things.
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Punished Miku
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Youtube will be fun in the coming weeks at least.
Spyxos
Member
I just checked my movie theater reservations for the Marvels. It's already showing here. And all 10 showings for today aren't even half full.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Yep. Nobody gives a shit anymore. Their greed and stupidity have run it into the ground.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
Reviews are out and it falls in with the latest Ant-man, Eternals and Secret Invasion show, ie TRASH
MayauMiao
Member
I noticed from the leak spoiler it was really quiet in the hall. It indicates barely anyone bother to watch th movie. Huge bomba incoming?
March Climber
Gold Member
Good.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, no one is expecting master class writing from this movie. I just want fun moments and good action, much like a mid-tier shonen anime with moments of great animation.
Hopefully that’s what I will get when I see it.
SidViscous
Member
Hopefully your showing has some good trailers cos you aint getting any of that from this.