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[Bisnic]

Never really bothered romancing people in ME2 that aren't playable squadmates in ME3. I feel like their romance would definitely suffer since they're not that much present in ME3.

Like... what do you get for romancing Thane who you only see in the hospital and then during the Citadel's attack?
What about Jack who you only see during a sidequest then her waiting in Purgatory afterwards?

Compared to Garrus, Liara, Ashley & Kaidan, I just can't see them getting a fully fleshed romance in ME3. That and missing on your

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final goodbyes during their escape on Earth since they're too heavily injured

while you run to the Citadel's beam.

 

[Ralemont]

Thane does have some great holo recordings in romanced Citadel DLC, though.

 

[The Artisan]

Never really bothered romancing people in ME2 that aren't playable squadmates in ME3.

How would you know who aren't squadmates in Me3 till the release of it?

 

[Bisnic]

How would you know who aren't squadmates in Me3 till the release of it?

I meant after ME3 was released. I really only had Liara and Garrus as my romanced squadmates before that, so I got lucky I guess.

 

[Lucreto]

true, but all things considered about Me3, I think it's better to play it now rather than later.

If you are talking about the ending, not everyone had the same reaction. I was annoyed for an hour or two.

 

[The Artisan]

I meant after ME3 was released. I really only had Liara and Garrus as my romanced squadmates before that, so I got lucky I guess.

oh, word. what about ashley?

If you are talking about the ending, not everyone had the same reaction. I was annoyed for an hour or two.

that's one thing, I said all things considered. another thing being that Me4 will have little to nothing, to do with Me3 as it takes place long after the events of the trilogy.

 

[Garlador]

Like... what do you get for romancing Thane who you only see in the hospital and then

Thane's influence doesn't ever really go away...

Bam, right in the feels.

 

[The Artisan]

Thane's influence doesn't ever really go away...


Bam, right in the feels.

wait a sec, that is official art?

 

[Garlador]

wait a sec, that is official art?

No. Fans do really good art for this series though.

 

[Patryn]

wait a sec, that is official art?

Two quick hints that it's not: That's not the "official" FemShep.

Also, there is no "official" romance.

The closest to a canon romance is probably Liara.

 

[Barrow Roll]

How would you know who aren't squadmates in Me3 till the release of it?

The moment it was made known that any of your ME2 squadmates could die at the end of the game, I knew that none of the new romances would pan out in a meaningful way for the rest of the series. Garrus and Tali being the exceptions because of their ME1 squadmate status.

I still think that was a really poor decision that did far more harm than good.

 

[The Artisan]

No. Fans do really good art for this series though.

there are some talented and dedicated people out there man

Two quick hints that it's not: That's not the "official" FemShep.

Also, there is no "official" romance.

The closest to a canon romance is probably Liara.

i remember a thread back in the Me3 days in the bioware social network where someone made a thread making a case of why liara was the canon romance.

I think Ashley could be considered one too because I remember bioware stating a "special treat" to those shepards who stayed loyal to her throughout the series.

was it supposed to be her fucking redesign or something

The moment it was made known that any of your ME2 squadmates could die at the end of the game, I knew that none of the new romances would pan out in a meaningful way for the rest of the series. Garrus and Tali being the exceptions because of their ME1 squadmate status.

I still think that was a really poor decision that did far more harm than good.

shit, I never thought about it that way.

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i'm a little intoxicated though :\ last 34 minutes of my 25th birthday

 

[Patryn]

there are some talented and dedicated people out there man

i remember a thread back in the Me3 days in the bioware social network where someone made a thread making a case of why liara was the canon romance.

I think Ashley could be considered one too because I remember bioware stating a "special treat" to those shepards who stayed loyal to her throughout the series.

was it supposed to be her fucking redesign or something

shit, I never thought about it that way.

Spoiler

i'm a little intoxicated though :\ last 34 minutes of my 25th birthday

The special treat wasn't just about Ashley. I remember that statement, and they said that anybody who was loyal to their LI through all three games would get one.

The moment it was made known that any of your ME2 squadmates could die at the end of the game, I knew that none of the new romances would pan out in a meaningful way for the rest of the series. Garrus and Tali being the exceptions because of their ME1 squadmate status.

I still think that was a really poor decision that did far more harm than good.

Yeah, that was such a bad decision. I'm surprised that even Garrus and Tali rated as squadmates in ME3. I walked away from ME2 sure that none of the ME2 squadmates could be squadmates in ME3, because they could all be dead.

I guess as it was, it apparently took a lot of internal lobbying to have Tali playable in ME3.

 

[The Artisan]

The special treat wasn't just about Ashley. I remember that statement, and they said that anybody who was loyal to their LI through all three games would get one.

Oh. I remember it specifically being about ashley.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Yeah, anybody being able to die at the end of ME2 made it a better game, but really tied their hands for ME3.

 

[Garlador]

Yeah, that was such a bad decision. I'm surprised that even Garrus and Tali rated as squadmates in ME3. I walked away from ME2 sure that none of the ME2 squadmates could be squadmates in ME3, because they could all be dead.

I guess as it was, it apparently took a lot of internal lobbying to have Tali playable in ME3.

I'm really glad her writer championed for her inclusion, because it really made my playthrough special. When I finished ME1, it was Garrus and Tali by my side. When I finished ME2, it was Garrus and Tali by my side, when I did the final run to the beam, it was Garrus and Tali by my side.

... And since I romanced Tali, it was even more heartbreaking. Especially when she gets injured and my character turns to Garrus and tells her to keep her safe.

Team Dextro was with me through all three games, and I'm glad for it.

 

[The Artisan]

Yeah, anybody being able to die at the end of ME2 made it a better game, but really tied their hands for ME3.

anybody could die? after my first playthrough i always made sure to have everyone's loyalty before dawning on the suicide mission, but if you went in with none, there were no-default survivors? so it's all based on who does what?

 

[Patryn]

anybody could die? after my first playthrough i always made sure to have everyone's loyalty before dawning on the suicide mission, but if you went in with none, there were no-default survivors? so it's all based on who does what?

Yes, it's mostly based on who does what. Literally every squad member could die at the end of ME2. For instance, sending a non-loyal squadmate to help the survivors or bringing them with you for the final battle will lead to them dying, regardless of who it is.

However, unless you had at least 1 surviving squadmate, Shepard would also die, making it an invalid save for importing.

So even the worst games would guarantee that there is one surviving squadmate, but there is no guarantee who that squadmate is.

 

[The Artisan]

Yes, it's mostly based on who does what. Literally every squad member could die at the end of ME2. For instance, sending a non-loyal squadmate to help the survivors or bringing them with you for the final battle will lead to them dying, regardless of who it is.

However, unless you had at least 1 surviving squadmate, Shepard would also die, making it an invalid save for importing.

So even the worst games would guarantee that there is one surviving squadmate, but there is no guarantee who that squadmate is.

interesting. other than most of the designated choices, i wonder (if you had all the loyalty) there'd be much variety in the outcomes of the specialist roles in the suicide mission.

like, i always picked kasumi or legion for the hacking specialist, i think mordin and jacob may've been other choices; i wonder if it'd have been any different (if they would've died) because of it.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

Yes, it's mostly based on who does what. Literally every squad member could die at the end of ME2. For instance, sending a non-loyal squadmate to help the survivors or bringing them with you for the final battle will lead to them dying, regardless of who it is.

However, unless you had at least 1 surviving squadmate, Shepard would also die, making it an invalid save for importing.

So even the worst games would guarantee that there is one surviving squadmate, but there is no guarantee who that squadmate is.

To be fair, you had to,actively work hard to make sure there were no surviving squad members.

 

[Garlador]

interesting. other than most of the designated choices, i wonder (if you had all the loyalty) there'd be much variety in the outcomes of the specialist roles in the suicide mission.

like, i always picked kasumi or legion for the hacking specialist, i think mordin and jacob may've been other choices; i wonder if it'd have been any different (if they would've died) because of it.

They would have. Regardless of loyalty, some characters simply will not survive if they're the "wrong" character for the role.

I lost Mordin on one playthrough, even though he was loyal, because he couldn't "hold the line" like the others did.

 

[Patryn]

interesting. other than most of the designated choices, i wonder (if you had all the loyalty) there'd be much variety in the outcomes of the specialist roles in the suicide mission.

like, i always picked kasumi or legion for the hacking specialist, i think mordin and jacob may've been other choices; i wonder if it'd have been any different (if they would've died) because of it.

There's a whole flow to the thing:

 

[The Artisan]

They would have. Regardless of loyalty, some characters simply will not survive if they're the "wrong" character for the role.

I lost Mordin on one playthrough, even though he was loyal, because he couldn't "hold the line" like the others did.

yeah, as it turns out the suicide mission teaches you that biotics who were experimented on as children are more powerful than biotics that were genetically engineered.

case in point: if you choose miranda for the barrier, she'll be weaker than jack (or samara) and one of your teammates will die.

also, since I wanted everyone to survive, I remember going online and checking to make sure to keep everyone alive way back in 2011, and it turns out for some reason, mordin was dying for a lot of people for unexplained reasons, almost like it was a bug or somethin.

There's a whole flow to the thing:

holy fuck, man. sure this was fan made after the first few weeks of playing the game though? this is damn thorough.

 

[Patryn]

yeah, as it turns out the suicide mission teaches you that biotics who were experimented on as children are more powerful than biotics that were genetically engineered.

case in point: if you choose miranda for the barrier, she'll be weaker than jack (or samara) and one of your teammates will die.

also, since I wanted everyone to survive, I remember going online and checking to make sure to keep everyone alive way back in 2011, and it turns out for some reason, mordin was dying for a lot of people for unexplained reasons, almost like it was a bug or somethin.
holy fuck, man. sure this was fan made after the first few weeks of playing the game though? this is damn thorough.

The Mordin was because people didn't understand the Hold the Line Mechanic.

Mordin is first to die, and it's based on an average rating of the people you leave behind. At launch, if you didn't have Zaeed, and you brought along either Garrus or Grunt or possibly both, you're going to fail that check, and Mordin is going to die.

 

[Bisnic]

I always send Mordin to escort the Normandy crew back. I lost him once for no reason during the hold the line step despite him being loyal and talking to him until he had nothing new to say on the ship and never wanted this to happen again.

 

[Maledict]

That chart isn't correct BTW - you can do more than one mission before going through the relay and have your entire crew survive. That's there to allow you to do Legions loyalty mission.

(In fact, you can do two missions without having anyone on the crew killed, but can't remember the details of that - it's how you can take Legion to do Tali's loyalty mission and not have anyone die).

Otherwise it's spot on!

 

[Patryn]

That chart isn't correct BTW - you can do more than one mission before going through the relay and have your entire crew survive. That's there to allow you to do Legions loyalty mission.

(In fact, you can do two missions without having anyone on the crew killed, but can't remember the details of that - it's how you can take Legion to do Tali's loyalty mission and not have anyone die).

Otherwise it's spot on!

Yeah, it should say "After your crew is abducted" instead of "Opening the Omega-4 Relay". I think they used the Opening to indicate that you can start the Suicide Mission, which only happens after the abduction.

The window is how many missions after getting the IFF and your crew being abducted. Once the crew is abducted, that's when you're on the clock.

 

[lucebuce12]

Hey guys, not sure if this is the right spot to ask for it, but what the hell.

Does any one have a link to any High-resolution texture mods for ME2 that DON'T use Texmod? Kinda like M.E.U.I.T.M for ME1 and this mod for Mass effect 3.

 

[diaspora]

Hey guys, not sure if this is the right spot to ask for it, but what the hell.

Does any one have a link to any High-resolution texture mods for ME2 that DON'T use Texmod? Kinda like M.E.U.I.T.M for ME1 and this mod for Mass effect 3.

Don't think so, it's why I didn't mod ME2 only 1 and 3.

 

[The Artisan]

The Mordin was because people didn't understand the Hold the Line Mechanic.

Mordin is first to die, and it's based on an average rating of the people you leave behind. At launch, if you didn't have Zaeed, and you brought along either Garrus or Grunt or possibly both, you're going to fail that check, and Mordin is going to die.

oh I see. he never died for me, fortunately.

 

[Barrow Roll]

Hey guys, not sure if this is the right spot to ask for it, but what the hell.

Does any one have a link to any High-resolution texture mods for ME2 that DON'T use Texmod? Kinda like M.E.U.I.T.M for ME1 and this mod for Mass effect 3.

There is, but it's not as simple to use as MEUITM.

http://me3explorer.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=772&hilit=format

A couple things to note:

1) Turning off automatic sign-in for Cerberus Network isn't enough to stop the DLC from not being authorized. Go into your Windows Firewall settings and block incoming and outgoing connections for ME2.

2) Some of the textures are apparently corrupted and will cause issues. I don't remember which ones as it's been a while since I last mucked around with it. You'll probably have to read the thread.

 

[The Artisan]

The thing I want to make sure we're clear about is that we're not making Mass Effect...

at first I thought he was talking about the ending, in which case I would say, damn that's cold.

He's just talking about the dialogue options.

 

[Plasma]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-e...=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=twitter

We're going to need a patch if this is true to add it into the old games, I must probe it.

 

[The Artisan]

i don't mean to go off topic but just after seeing the thread in non gaming, I just want to say real quick...shinobi, i wish and hope the best for you and your family, sir.

 

[Blue Ninja]

Just finished the PC version of the first game, that controller support mod is a godsend. 60 fps Mass Effect is godlike.

Game is still great. I actually managed to beat it and the majority of the quests in a little under 15 hours, I was amazed at how quickly I managed to rush through things. I didn't bother making Shepard ask stuff I already knew the answer to, so like 90% of all exposition was just thrown out of the window.

Also didn't romance anyone on this playthrough. I usually romance Ashley in ME1 but I wanted to go at it a bit different this time. Also selected a dialog option that apparently locks you out of any and all romance attempts with her, so I got friend-zoned. :lol

Can't wait to dig into ME2. The sole reason I rushed through ME1 so quickly was so I could start playing the GOAT.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Just played through the party in the Citadel DLC for the third time and listened to Grunt in the shower...

... How did I just now piece together that Space Cowboy line? Grunt = Steve Blum = Spike Spiegel.

 

[hateradio]

Like... what do you get for romancing Thane who you only see in the hospital and then during the Citadel's attack?

Thane dies before the attacks, I think.

In any case reasons for romancing Thane:

1. Pretty mature love afair that isn't predicated on looks P)
2. And yet, a mature older guy that doesn't look like one
3. Very casual romance, nothing is set up to a big expectation
4. He tells you he has
   Spoiler

   space cancer
   so you know it's going to be a bitter-sweet ride
5. He has children, so he isn't interested in all that, ok?
   
6. He's a good well-rounded character

Thane's influence doesn't ever really go away...

Bam, right in the feels.

Siha . . . I crie evertiem

 

[Big Nikus]

Just played through the party in the Citadel DLC for the third time and listened to Grunt in the shower...

... How did I just now piece together that Space Cowboy line? Grunt = Steve Blum = Spike Spiegel.

Which line ? I didn't play it in english.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Which line ? I didn't play it in english.

"Who's a space cowboy? Me!"

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

"Who's a space cowboy? Me!"

Haha, I must have missed that on my playthrough.



Slightly off topic, but what was The Artisan banned for?

 

[diaspora]

Thane dies before the attacks, I think.

In any case reasons for romancing Thane:

1. Pretty mature love afair that isn't predicated on looks P)
2. And yet, a mature older guy that doesn't look like one
3. Very casual romance, nothing is set up to a big expectation
4. He tells you he has
   Spoiler

   space cancer
   so you know it's going to be a bitter-sweet ride
5. He has children, so he isn't interested in all that, ok?
   
6. He's a good well-rounded character

Siha . . . I crie evertiem

He gets stabbed during the attacks by Kai Leng.

 

[Bisnic]

I formated my HDD earlier last year and now I've lost all my achievements in ME1 on Steam... And here I thought that stuff wasn't saved locally.

Now I gotta do most of them again. Not sure if I should complain or not, considering I played that game tons of times already. It just sucks losing all those bonus the achievements provided.

 

[Ralemont]

I formated my HDD earlier last year and now I've lost all my achievements in ME1 on Steam... And here I thought that stuff wasn't saved locally.

Now I gotta do most of them again. Not sure if I should complain or not, considering I played that game tons of times already. It just sucks losing all those bonus the achievements provided.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Just looked it up and ME3 is the only game in the series with no achievement bonuses. Huh.

 

[Bisnic]

Just looked it up and ME3 is the only game in the series with no achievement bonuses. Huh.

I wasn't even aware that ME2 achievement gave bonus. What are they?

 

[DOWN]

PS3 DLC is on sale

 

[Barrow Roll]

I formated my HDD earlier last year and now I've lost all my achievements in ME1 on Steam... And here I thought that stuff wasn't saved locally.

Now I gotta do most of them again. Not sure if I should complain or not, considering I played that game tons of times already. It just sucks losing all those bonus the achievements provided.

You can unlock them all with console commands. Don't waste your time unlocking them all again.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

I wasn't even aware that ME2 achievement gave bonus. What are they?

Long Service Medal gets you 25% bonus exp to all characters and loyalty achievements unlock different bonus powers (Garrus' loyalty = Armor piercing ammo etc).

Nowhere near as much as ME1, but they're still good.

 

[RobNBanks]

PS3 DLC is on sale

70% off.

Meanwhile on the PC side..

I guess should consider ourselves lucky that EA was generous enough to put those BioWare points on sale for 20% off or however much it was

 

[Nostremitus]

Long Service Medal gets you 25% bonus exp to all characters and loyalty achievements unlock different bonus powers (Garrus' loyalty = Armor piercing ammo etc).

Nowhere near as much as ME1, but they're still good.

This just blew my mind... I always thought those bonuses were standard.