The Artisan
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which 4KTV did you get?
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which 4KTV did you get?
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Love the talking elcor plushie on the floor.
The Artisan
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that's one ugly ass sweater
Poodlestrike
Banned
Ah man, ME3 multi is so good, but I am so bad at it, lol. I used to run Golds with friends, what's happened to meeeeee
JeffG
Member
I got a Phillips 6921
It may be an 8 bit panel using FRC to create the HDR effect
But its 4k, The 4K looks good. The hdr looks good enough and I got it for $800 Can (Its $750 now)
Maybe in the store beside the $2000 TV it may not be good enough, but its a whole bunch cheaper.
and I am ok with that.
(I had $500 from work 15 yrs of service. So for ~$400 out of pocket, I got a 5 inch bigger TV that has 4K and HDR and upgraded my Original XBone to an S)
The Artisan
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for 55", a deal like that seems pretty damn good. I just did a quick search on ebay of 4K tvs with brands that matter and there are like non popping up less than $800. there is this but I feel like samsung while you can't go wrong with it, is kinda overrated.
anyways, you say "it may be an 8 bit" that seems to imply that 8 bit is a crutch? what exactly does 8 bit mean? as opposed to like what, 10 bit? what's the difference?
That's the most magnificent sweater I have ever laid eyes upon. I feel blessed and will tell my grandchildren of the very moment it first entered my memory.News update
DeadlyParasite
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Pretty sure they're selling that sweater on the BioWare store right now.
Officer.Sanchez
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Link me to the source right now.
BrassDragon
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Facial animation looks great.
Poodlestrike
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Only LG and XL left on the sweater, but also only $19.99.
That's a value play right there.
That's a value play right there.
JeffG
Member
8 bit vs 10 bit describes the difference in color depth. 8 bit says that a screen has a possible color display of 16.7 million colors. 10 bit is just over 1 billion.
hdr (specifically hr10 a hdr specification) uses 10 bit color. older/cheaper hdr tv's use software to make the 8 bit screens behave like a 10 bit screen.
it is a compromise, but does work.
hope that makes sense
Poodlestrike
Banned
noice
I'm thinking of just doing Geth for a while; I got this anti-synthetic rifle I wanna try out.
Militaratus
Member
Currently doing my platinum runs on the Trilogy, forgot that I didn't do them on my main PSN Account yet. Starting of course with Mass Effect 1.
So any word yet on the Andromeda Closed Beta?
So any word yet on the Andromeda Closed Beta?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I have a 1080p TV and I can say unequivocally that the Pro is still worth it, especially games that are internally rendered at 4K such as Skyrim or Ratchet and Clank.
The resolution increase makes a TON of difference.
Far more than I thought it would.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Yeah, the Rannoch arc IMO story wise was pretty terrible in ME3. Totally made the quarrians unlikeable.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Wow, that's not what I got out of his post at all lol.
Personally, I really liked the Rannoch arc; it was pretty clearly geared to make the Quarians into the villains of the conflict, but that's honestly not so bad.
The Artisan
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Of course that makes sense you explained it in a very understandable way.
The thing I don't get about HDR is why is it so vital to 4K? Like, what would 4K look like without HDR on would it not look as detailed or is 4K automatically HDR and can't be turned off
Because I've seen some people complaining about HDR, saying things like it looks madd white washed, etc. stuff is kinda hard to understand tbh
Johnny, I almost didn't even know that was you with the changed avatar.
Anyways, you must have a dope 1080P TV then because I have a really old no-name brand that's 1080P and I can't see a difference at all. Granted I've been playing the same old games (Uncharted 4 and Rocket League) but I expected to be able to see something different.
JeffG
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Its not. Thats the kicker
Manufactures have tied it to 4K to force you to buy a new TV, but the technology doesn't require 4K.
HDR typically give greater detail in the brightest and darkest parts of an image. Because the range of colors is greater, subtle differences can be displayed which under normal 8 bit display would be merged into one blob of either white or black. Color intensity is also a big thing. This is why how bright the TV comes into play.
An example of this would be extra details in clouds in a bright sky or rock details shown in a dark cave.
Ummmm...I have an opinion on this, but most people wouldn't like it. lol
But IMO I see many people making interesting decisions on display settings which would lead me to think they are over thinking the issue.
If the image is washed out, it can only be 1 of two things. The TV/Console settings are incorrect (high probability) or there is a bug in the either the TV or console (low probability, but not unheard of)
JeffG
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[this is so offtopic now]
You ask that on a forum where peoples eye's bleed if video isn't refreshed every 1/60 of a sec? or where things are a blurry mess based on what AA is being used?
lol
I on the other do understand it, but on the internet where everything is black/white or shit/great I am an oddity.
I do like new technology, but it needs to live in a world where price vs return has to be addressed.
[/this is so offtopic now]
I am looking forward to HDR on Mass Effect and I also hope they support Microsoft's Scorpio with greater resolution. (There...I am trying to get it back on Mass Effect Topic lol)
Poodlestrike
Banned
Part of it's just wanting to be on the cutting edge, tbh. A lot of the rest is PC standards being brought over to consoles. Super high res is a lot more important on a 20 inch screen 2 feet away than a 60 inch one 6 feet away, but the expectation has changed.
HDR tho is legit gamechanging stuff. Outrageous improvement.
DevilDog
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It's that different? I really really doubt it, but then again I've never seen a game played on a 4K monitor.
I mean, I would sacrifice 4K i feel for 144 fps. Graphics are usually wowing you in the beginning, but gameplay is what remains.
Maybe I need to buy a 4K monitor after I...
I mean, I would sacrifice 4K i feel for 144 fps. Graphics are usually wowing you in the beginning, but gameplay is what remains.
Maybe I need to buy a 4K monitor after I...
DevilDog
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1080p vs 4k textures don't really matter
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Just had a 2 player Silver match where I was an asari justicar adept and this other person was asari adept but different, dunno which character she was. We survived and kept doing the heavy melee scream animation in tandem.
I feel like I need to make a craigslist posting for missed connections.
I feel like I need to make a craigslist posting for missed connections.
DeadlyParasite
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My knowledge on the in-game topic is somewhat limited but it's my understanding that quantum entanglement communicators are not limited by distance or time correct?
Wouldn't it be a glaring omission on the initiatives part to not have one aboard the Nexus that links directly to some place in our own galaxy as some way to establish communications?
Wouldn't it be a glaring omission on the initiatives part to not have one aboard the Nexus that links directly to some place in our own galaxy as some way to establish communications?
Poodlestrike
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Might be that it was. A lot of stuff seems to have gone wrong, and once a QEC goes down, there's no way to repair it (since the whole point is the unique pair of particles).
Or maybe there is a technical limitation--maybe there is a range issue, or the paired particles would just degrade over the expected 600 year travel time.
DevilDog
Member
QEC are not limited in-game, or in real life. They can work from wherever.
Yeah it would be unacceptable if they didn't bring at least one with them. Even if it has a low Bandwidth, just to tell them that they have arrived safely.
They probably had one on the Citadel...
DevilDog
Member
Had one in the citadel linking to where?
DeadlyParasite
Member
Not expecting anything really. I just think it's interesting that the more they try to distance themselves from the other games the more things established by their own lore work against them. Anyone with a passing interest in the workings of the Mass Effect universe will have to fight hard against their own suspension of disbelief.
It's sounding like BioWare plans to connect Andromeda and the MW possibly as early as the end of this game. If so they will probably have some BS about QECs interfering with Remnant tech and preventing calls back. Once you (presumably) harness the Remnant tech at the end of the game Im sure QECs will be back.
DevilDog
Member
Yeah, well said, although I'm sure that some people will try and make connections to the original trilogy, no matter what.
This has been the case for every ME game after ME1.
I'm willing however to let them make a clean surgical cut, and let them build a believable universe once more.
I'm half expecting us to go back to the Milky Way in the future anyway. I doubt Mass Effect games from now on will stick to Andromeda only, unless Bioware intend Mass Effect to become the "RPG Adventures in our Neighbor Galaxy" franchise of video games.
DeadlyParasite
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I don't think so. In terms of basic technology everything has remained relatively consistent throughout the trilogy.
Is it a clean surgical cut though? As long as it's a continuation of the timeline and not a full reboot the inconsistencies remain.
The only way things truly become separated is the refusal ending, otherwise you have 3 very disinct outcomes in which the denizens of the post-war Milky Way are likely to reverse-engineer reaper technology and become so advanced that the prospect of leaving the Milky Way to explore again becomes easier and more tangible than the Andromeda Initiative.
The Andromeda Initiative videos tell us that one of the primary goals is to eventually re-establish communications with the Milky Way. In that sense BioWare has at least committed to an attempted connection between the two galaxies, regardless of it being successful or not.
DevilDog
Member
I was talking about consistency in general, thought the inclusion of thermal clips in ME2 was pretty damn contrived. Especially when you found them during Jacob's mission.
Fine then:
-During an accident in the Citadel/Ark, due to <reason x>...
or
-Due to the political state of <year y>...
...the QEC pairs of the Andromeda mission were caused to be ineffective, restricting all communication.
DeadlyParasite
Member
Pretty big Gameplanet interview with Mike Gamble
- Massive information and gameplay systems drop coming January. Expect more details on the dialogue system, inventory "system", deeper information on combat and squad controls, and who's doing the music.
- Players looking for stealth or diplomacy options as opposed to combat are likely to be disappointed.
- Unlike the original trilogy the male and female protagonists will have distinctly different dialogue choices and personality. Gender-based responses will also be featured. However the main story remains unchanged for both.
- Instead of classes you now have class templates that you can change on the go at any time without cost to the player. A person can switch between a Vanguard and an Infiltrator template they've made as the situation calls for it.
- Reiterates that multiplayer is not required for singleplayer but those wanting to delve into the Strike System will be rewarded. Apparently it ties into what the other settlers of Andromeda are doing. More information in January(?) on that.
- Massive information and gameplay systems drop coming January. Expect more details on the dialogue system, inventory "system", deeper information on combat and squad controls, and who's doing the music.
- Players looking for stealth or diplomacy options as opposed to combat are likely to be disappointed.
- Unlike the original trilogy the male and female protagonists will have distinctly different dialogue choices and personality. Gender-based responses will also be featured. However the main story remains unchanged for both.
- Instead of classes you now have class templates that you can change on the go at any time without cost to the player. A person can switch between a Vanguard and an Infiltrator template they've made as the situation calls for it.
- Reiterates that multiplayer is not required for singleplayer but those wanting to delve into the Strike System will be rewarded. Apparently it ties into what the other settlers of Andromeda are doing. More information in January(?) on that.
Considering the Ark launched during or just prior to ME2, I'm expecting those characters other than Shepard to be...
A) Saren
B) Sovereign
C) The Council?
Because everyone else are not important enough at this point in the trilogy to be worth mentioning in another galaxy. But hey... I'm sure Bioware will find a way to shoehorn a Liara or Wrex reference somewhere in there.
Poodlestrike
Banned
The Nexus, I'd guess. Then maybe another on Earth linking to the Hyperion, one on Palaven to the Turian ark, and so on. So I guess another possibility is that the MW terminals just got blown the fuck up.
I'd have to double check the timeline, but Wrex would be the de-facto leader of the Krogan by the time the mission launched for sure, and Liara might be the Shadow Broker at that point, so both could merit references.
DevilDog
Member
I'm sure that the brightest of every race will look up, or have heard of their representative on board the Normandy.
D) The Illusive Man
He created the Arks to save Yoomanity, but required assistance with funding. He made sure that the other Arks would fail along the way.
Also,
Also,
He created the Arks to save Yoomanity, but required assistance with funding. He made sure that the other Arks would fail along the way.
Also,
he has a clone on one of the Arks secretly running the show.
Also,
E) The Reapers are now slowly moving to invade the Andromeda Galaxy.
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