lol yeah that's the impression I got, thanks for chiming in.
Also thanks for the dominion suggestions to the ones that chimed in on that
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lol yeah that's the impression I got, thanks for chiming in.
Also thanks for the dominion suggestions to the ones that chimed in on that
This is true. After a while you can tell what he likes and what he doesn't. He just doesn't usually bag on games even if he doesn't like them.
The main thing I have to watch out for is Tom loves him some thematic games, so I just had to learn to parse it through my own filter. "Ok, he is going nuts for this game, but that might have a lot to do with the fact that it has really cool minis than anything gameplay related".
platypotamus
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For those on yucata:
I got invited to a bunch of games I don't know how to play, and rather than accept them and let them stop my turn taking on games I do know, I am waiting until I have a chance to read the rules before I accept. So probably sometime this weekend. Sorry!
Unrelated:
Probably trying Dungeon Petz tonight. Started reading THOSE rules, and am pretty encouraged. 2Player implementation seems tighter than Dungeon Lords too, which is nice.
I got invited to a bunch of games I don't know how to play, and rather than accept them and let them stop my turn taking on games I do know, I am waiting until I have a chance to read the rules before I accept. So probably sometime this weekend. Sorry!
Unrelated:
Probably trying Dungeon Petz tonight. Started reading THOSE rules, and am pretty encouraged. 2Player implementation seems tighter than Dungeon Lords too, which is nice.
I kind of like the "loved" feel that used cards start to develop over time.
However, I do use sleeves for some games, especially if they require a lot of shuffling (like Warhammer: Invasion and Twilight Struggle).
But I find it quaint that my Memoir 44 cards show some slight wear and tear from all the games of it I've played.
Hydranockz
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Played my first game of Smallworld last night at a friends house. It was the 'Underground' version I do believe. 5-player setup and whole lot of fun. At the end we set aside 5 tokens and counted the rest. Then we went around and turned one each time. It really added a nice tension to the end 
Of course, I ended up coming up a lowly fifth but I really enjoyed the game.
Really enjoyed the artwork, especially on the cultists.
I got sooo screwed over starting off as the 5th player though. Ended up with some muddy orgres which would have been doing well, had the two ladies playing decided to scheme together. Naturally, I had to squezze in between two armies, an unfortunate fate indeed.
Of course, I ended up coming up a lowly fifth but I really enjoyed the game.
Really enjoyed the artwork, especially on the cultists.
I got sooo screwed over starting off as the 5th player though. Ended up with some muddy orgres which would have been doing well, had the two ladies playing decided to scheme together. Naturally, I had to squezze in between two armies, an unfortunate fate indeed.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
Nice session report!
I think small worlds has become my goto game for newgamers..its got enough to it that I can enjoy playing it and its lighthearted theme seems to go over well.
Really love the badges and race variety, each game having completely different combo's has really made it more fun.
I think small worlds has become my goto game for newgamers..its got enough to it that I can enjoy playing it and its lighthearted theme seems to go over well.
Really love the badges and race variety, each game having completely different combo's has really made it more fun.
narcosis219
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The biggest problem with the game is downtime, which is why I don't use it to introduce new gamers.
Hydranockz
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How so?
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
I broke down and Picked up The Legend of Drizzt and so far it seems pretty fun.It seems the opinions overwhelming are that if there was just one DnD boardgame to get this was the one.
I played the first 2 scenarios solo and I like the flow and its got a couple mechanics I really liked that I think would help fix some of the problems with Dungeon Run.
So after talking to my buddies about what didn't work with Dungeon Run when we played one of the main problems was that a few unlucky rolls led a couple players to getting no treasure upgrades at all.
The game assigns 4 standard tiles and 2 Special tiles per player if you don't roll well all your encounters won't have treasures.
1.So one change I want to use is every monster always has a treasure card.
If you roll a treasure but no monster..fine..if you roll an encounter but no treasure and it ends up being a trap its a wash, but if the encounter is a monster it always has treasure.
The other issue was it was boring when you had to do two moves and then wait for 3 other players to do something(which happens to much when you spread out but then need to come together for an uber mob or boss).
2.so we were thinking that if you only did two two move actions and finish on a standard tile..you get to reroll for an encounter(ignoring treasure only rolls) basically a wandering monster check.
I've tried these changes doing a solo 2 character run and it seems better but wont' be able to try it with a full group for a while.
Anyone else see problems with this or have some other ideas how to tweak Dungeon Run to give it that bit of a pickup it seems to need?
I played the first 2 scenarios solo and I like the flow and its got a couple mechanics I really liked that I think would help fix some of the problems with Dungeon Run.
So after talking to my buddies about what didn't work with Dungeon Run when we played one of the main problems was that a few unlucky rolls led a couple players to getting no treasure upgrades at all.
The game assigns 4 standard tiles and 2 Special tiles per player if you don't roll well all your encounters won't have treasures.
1.So one change I want to use is every monster always has a treasure card.
If you roll a treasure but no monster..fine..if you roll an encounter but no treasure and it ends up being a trap its a wash, but if the encounter is a monster it always has treasure.
The other issue was it was boring when you had to do two moves and then wait for 3 other players to do something(which happens to much when you spread out but then need to come together for an uber mob or boss).
2.so we were thinking that if you only did two two move actions and finish on a standard tile..you get to reroll for an encounter(ignoring treasure only rolls) basically a wandering monster check.
I've tried these changes doing a solo 2 character run and it seems better but wont' be able to try it with a full group for a while.
Anyone else see problems with this or have some other ideas how to tweak Dungeon Run to give it that bit of a pickup it seems to need?
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
I found playing the banker that handles all race chits in the box and money helps keep the flow going pretty well
narcosis219
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Um, it's prone to AP and it's amplified by the fact that the board changes completely by the time it is your turn again, so you can't even think about your move while you wait your turn.
outunderthestars
Banned
OK: Organizing my first game night. Challenge is that none of the people are gamers at all. i decided on a night of Cards Against Humanity, Bang! and The Resistance. I figured they would go well with the drinking and keep things fun.
Any suggestions for good social games for people who like to be assholes to each other?
Any suggestions for good social games for people who like to be assholes to each other?
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
We call that the "fuck you factor" Its a primary scoring criteria for our group. a good fuck you factor, makes for a great game.
even tho they are non gamers are they still cool with geeky stuff like Battlestar Galactica? A coop game with hidden traitor that gets to mess with his/her buddies might go over well.. but if they are weird ed out by scifi ect..then no.
TwiztidElf
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Played 2 2-player games of Lords of Waterdeep last night.
What a mish-mash of other games. Strong influence from both Alien Frontiers and Citadels, mixed in with a little bit of Puerto Rico and Ticket to Ride. (Of the games I'm familiar with anyhow).
I'm a little disappointed, but this is mostly rooted in the realization that this game isn't really compatible with the people I play board games with mostly so I won't be buying my own copy. A shame, because the quality of the stock is phenomenal.
Really enjoyed it, and went away thinking about the game a lot afterwards. Very interesting game.
What a mish-mash of other games. Strong influence from both Alien Frontiers and Citadels, mixed in with a little bit of Puerto Rico and Ticket to Ride. (Of the games I'm familiar with anyhow).
I'm a little disappointed, but this is mostly rooted in the realization that this game isn't really compatible with the people I play board games with mostly so I won't be buying my own copy. A shame, because the quality of the stock is phenomenal.
Really enjoyed it, and went away thinking about the game a lot afterwards. Very interesting game.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
I've never seen AP in Small world yet..its mostly who's the last person that attacked me?..I attack them(kids are great for this)..or for the people that understand the game..who's leading in points? I attack them.
Reminding people this game is a race that anyone thats scoring 13 points on a turn but hasn't attacked you personally..should still be your primary target..of coarse I bring this up when Its not me scoring 13points on my turn ;-)
narcosis219
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Well, once you get them comfy with games, try cosmic encounter for sure.
Home after "Give To Game", an annual charity 'game day' here in Austin, run by Dan Manfradeni, designer of some low-key games.
I really like this game day - it's for a good cause, is /very/ low-key & homegrown. It's in a church hall with the church staff managing the snack bar & it's just very cute & "nice" with about 80-100 people.
Played some good games with a nice mix of friends & new faces. Lots of Lords of Waterdeep & Eclipse. I got a game in of each, plus Powergrid First Sparks & Castle of Burgundy. All in all, a great solid day of gaming.
I really like this game day - it's for a good cause, is /very/ low-key & homegrown. It's in a church hall with the church staff managing the snack bar & it's just very cute & "nice" with about 80-100 people.
Played some good games with a nice mix of friends & new faces. Lots of Lords of Waterdeep & Eclipse. I got a game in of each, plus Powergrid First Sparks & Castle of Burgundy. All in all, a great solid day of gaming.
Screaming_Gremlin
My QB is a Dick and my coach is a Nutt
For the first time, I was able to get the people together to do an 8 player game of Twilight Imperium 3rd edition. After about 12 hours of playtime, from setup through rule explanations and actually playing the game, I came out as victor. I wasn't even close to winning on points, but was able to claim the Domination objective by betraying my ally and taking his home world.
This is certainly something I have no desire to do often (as in not for another year at least), but was a really fun experience. Surprisingly, no one really complained about the game lasting as long as it did and they all enjoyed themselves.
This is certainly something I have no desire to do often (as in not for another year at least), but was a really fun experience. Surprisingly, no one really complained about the game lasting as long as it did and they all enjoyed themselves.
outunderthestars
Banned
Couple more questions. Is anyone here supporting the Zpocolypse kickstarter?
I am conflicted about the game, as it seems interesting. I worry that it won't be fun as everyone always dies in the end. Doesn't seem like a satisfying end to such a complex game. Any thoughts?
Also, looking at getting Betrayal at House on the Hill. Does anyone know if they have corrected the warping pieces problem they had over the last few years?
I am conflicted about the game, as it seems interesting. I worry that it won't be fun as everyone always dies in the end. Doesn't seem like a satisfying end to such a complex game. Any thoughts?
Also, looking at getting Betrayal at House on the Hill. Does anyone know if they have corrected the warping pieces problem they had over the last few years?
I backed it, it looked like fun to me, plus I have quite a good amount of friends that enjoy the zombie theme
He didn't say that. You should re-read it.
It's a 2 player game with a fudge for 4 players, where you split the three races on each side between two players with some extra rules for control, officially. We play 4 player as more of a 'team' game with two people collaborating fully as a great way to learn the game. I wouldn't want to do it regularly as 4 player as it really is a 2 player game (and a fantastic one!).
From the thread:
FFG's owner called him out on it. FFG makes their sleeves in a different country, not on the same machines in the same factory. Seth backpedals immediately, as he always does to say:
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I've been watching this for like a month and finally backed it late last night. I had your same concerns and it's possible, but I think the game looks really nice and figured I'd take a little gamble on it. The stretch goals have added a fair amount of value as well, especially if they hit this 135k one.
Seems a bit disingenuous maybe, but technically he never did say they were made in the same factory as FFG's. He said they were chemically identical to FFG and that his were made in the same factory as "other brands."
He didn't say they were made at the same factory as FFG. His explanation makes perfect sense.
Ugg.. wish I could have made it.
Sadly, I committed to shooting turkeys weeks ago before I realized what day it was.
I didn't even see any of the damned birds.
I'm not going to ever give that guy the benefit of the doubt.
He has:
1) Told people to ship defective crokinole boards to other paying customers instead of returning them.
2) Tried to set up a kickstarter for a game that he didn't have distribution rights to (Kingdom builder). When told to cease and desist by Queen games he pretends that he and Queen Games made a joint decision to pull the kickstarter.
3) His kickstarters have had a number of "exclusives" that were only to be offered on kickstarter, and pretty much all of them have been sold outside of it.
4) Many kickstarter projects claim you'll never get it this cheap again. Only to be sold at a lower MSRP or on their own website cheaper after funding.
http://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/139427/mayday-games-a-cautionary-tale
outunderthestars said:
I picked it up cheap on Amazon around Black Friday 2010. I contacted customer support for the replacement tiles and I think they came around February or March. Not sure if they've done another printing of the game since then, but if not they should still provide you with the corrected tiles if you contact them.
Hmm, ok.
Man, I really want to buy 1830 but know that it will never see the table. Also, I want to own steam and empire builder.
I've gone on some sort of train game want to buy spree in my mind.
I want an 18xx, crayon and pick up deliver game.
Also, I want to hire a designer to create a game called 184X. It woul be a 4x game (eclipse, twilight imperium) where you bought and sold shares of the empires and go income based on their pillaging.
I have no idea if it would be good or not, I just like the name 184X
I've gone on some sort of train game want to buy spree in my mind.
I want an 18xx, crayon and pick up deliver game.
Also, I want to hire a designer to create a game called 184X. It woul be a 4x game (eclipse, twilight imperium) where you bought and sold shares of the empires and go income based on their pillaging.
I have no idea if it would be good or not, I just like the name 184X
BomberMouse
Member
I laughed
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/04/16/
Despite being a nerdfest, I don't remember PA covering boardgames a few years back
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/04/16/
Despite being a nerdfest, I don't remember PA covering boardgames a few years back
Good timing since I was playing ticket to ride friday and last night
Ive not really intentionally blocked people in ttr in a very long time. I'm usually playing with new players and don't want to scare them away from playing bigger games with me.
This does no however stop my dad from completing no routes of his own and just trying to guess at where I am going the entire game. As long as I dont win he considers it a victory.
My dad is kind or a dick sometimes.
PoweredBySoy
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I just preordered the second printing of this. So excited to play it.
How euroish is the game?
My game group likes it, though there is some dissent that the random set up can hose some players where they can't do much at first.
I'm interested in the game, but a bill is a lot for one title.
BattleMonkey
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It's more of a wargame like set up like many older games of the same genre....if you have ever played any 4X space game, then it's similar. Just has lot of fun ideas and customization allowed, plus it's more simple and streamlined compared to most 4X games. I don't think it's very euro at all outside of perhaps the look of the components.
Ok. Some of my playgroup have been calling it a Euro 4x game.. which seems rather contrary to the 4x genre.
Though, they consider Merchants and Marauders a Euro game.
I think my playgroup uses "Euro" to mean "game I like".
What are your thoughts on the starting set up issues? One player described them as game-breaking, but his favorite games are perfect information games. So, he may not be the guy to trust on such things.
Starting setup is fixed in Eclipse. The randomness is in exploration - you pick a hex tile at random from a stack & place it. The luck factor is "do I get a tile that's worthwhile to expand to?".
I love Eclipse. Played it a bunch & would happily play it a bunch more. But it's not a 'perfect info' type game by any means/stretch & can see it pissing off people who want that. You're building up space ships, building up a space empire & having a big fuck-off battle at the end (usually) over a fixed number of rounds.
I love it.
narcosis219
Member
It is such an amazing game. The best part about it was how it was made in the 70s. Really ahead of its time.
BattleMonkey
Member
Fenners basically covered that. Yea the randomness of board set up could potentially put someone at a disadvantage, but it's a common theme with this genre of game.
It is amazingly fun, frenetic and doesn't overstay it's welcome.
Is it an insurmountable disadvantage or could good play mitigate the issues?
Good play can mitigate it to a degree, but I have seen games where one player catches /zero/ breaks & is largely screwed from winning.
In the game I played on Saturday at G2G, one of the noobs had a horrible initial couple of draws. He ended up second. I had a great start, ended clear last because of lousy play mid-game.
If you want an accessible and easy to teach pick up and deliver game, may I suggest Valdora or On the Underground? The former has a very unique mechanic, while the latter has route building that should be familiar to the TTR crowd.
Thanks for the pointers.
The pick up and deliver games I'm familiar with are Steel Driver and Steam, and I think both of them are a bit complicated for most of my non-gamer friends. Steal Driver has an easy route building mechanic, but the stock ownership and delivery at the games end are a bit complicated.
Steam is a *great* game, but just too much for most of my non-gamer friends. I still want to own a copy of it, but doubt it would get a ton of play.
Obviously 1830 is going to be a grind fest for my gaming group, but I'd like a few train games for my family to play.
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