I agree with Battlemonkey here, it's a 2 or 3. It's just a hard game for non gamers to get a handle on. There are a lot of moving pieces and the main puzzle of the game may overwhelm new players. If you are looking for a next step worker placement, Pillars of the Earth is a good introduction to the worker placement genre. The family game of Agricola might work too. Lancaster is another good one. There is more direct confrontation in Lancaster so if your players are turned off by that be warned.
Played it for the first time on Thursday. I had a really good time with it. We played it three player and only one person had played before, we finished in a little under three hours. It's not a hard game to play there is just a lot of choices a player can make. As far as other space 4x type games this is my favorite.
It's a great way to learn the game, especially if you start paying attention to how/what the AI does. Make sure to look at what it's playing, what actions it's choosing compared to yours. It'll make you a far better player in the long run.Well, I showed a video to my sister and she likes it. I have decided I'll buy it and report how it went with my family.
Watch this video. It helped me learn the rules after reading the rule book. Compared to Dungeon Lords, Dungeon Petz is a breeze to teach. For your first learning game you might want to consider doing the needs step face up and help the other players figure out the needs for the pets.
Some people love it, some people think it's just another worker placement game. I haven't played it yet but it does seem like a good example of a worker placement game. If you liked LoW check out Agricola and Caylus for something more challenging. Lancaster is great if you want a worker placement game more player conflict. If you want something brand spanking new check out The Manhattan Project. Really neat worker placement game that has some player conflict and variable player powers with the nations mini-expansion.
Eclipse is the new hotness. It rocketed up the BGG charts and is 6th in the top ten games. I really liked it but it's not the Twilight Imperium lite people make it out to be. It's more economic focused than military building and conquest. It's also more of a victory point chase than Twilight Imperium. That being said I like Ecplise better than TI and if you are looking for a euroized space game Eclipse is it. If you want a more combat focused game then Eclipse isn't really it.
In Canada? You might get hosed on shipping but Miniature market has 14 copies available for $90. Also check around your local game stores, they might have a copy and you won't get screwed on the shipping.
They really aren't all that similar. They share a space theme, have symbols, and...are set in space. Yeah, I got nothing else. Race is more about hand management and selecting the right roles and capitalizing on the roles other players pick. Eclipse is more about exploring and managing your resources in order to upgrade, build, and trying not to go bankrupt.
Anyone have more opinions on this one? I've been eyeing for awhile now, but I haven't been able to get a good sense of whether or not it's a good co-op game. With the little research I've done, it seems like it doesn't change all that much from playing it single-player, which I'm not particularly interested in.