https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZkK2_6H9MM
She said all that because she actually cares so much. She dived on the knife and said bad things so one day!, god willing, we would achieve the progress she so staunchly believed in under the fake veneer of her actual words. She's playing chess like Obama was, thinking 12 moves ahead of her opponents.
So I see you've abandoned your nonsense about how liberal passiveness on gay marriage caused it to take much longer to get gay marriage nationwide and simply reverted to "she was against it before she was for it." We know that. Nobody said otherwise. So was Obama. So you set up a strawman, and knocked it down. But guess what, we also know - and have evidence - that he was doing so in the name of political expediency, because
he had filled out questionnaires in the 90s for newspapers in which he was fully for gay marriage, and
his former campaign manager said Obama was extremely frustrated he couldn't come out for it on day one but was convinced by clearer minds that now was not the right time.
Notice, none of this is either:
a.) Making an excuse about how moral that choice was.
b.) Stating he or Hillary was always for gay marriage, unlike Sanders or some shit.
No, it's basically yet another example of that political pragmatism winning out over sheer ideology, because in politics there is a time to be a leader and sometimes all your choices suck. Sometimes you have to make a shitty choice so that you don't lose your opportunity to do
everything good you have in mind. Would I have done that? Nope. But I understand why, and I understand maybe that's why I'm not a politician - because I can't make those hard choices.
Bernie may be above that in your mind's eye, but that simply means he'd somehow find a way to be even less effective at passing legislation because he refuses to compromise when faced with an impassable political wall. You may find that quality endearing, even. But that's not the type of attitude that functions in our government, whether you or I like it or not. And no, Bernie being elected is not magically going to change how the government works, and no he won't be able to pass legislation to that effect. Neither will Hillary, so we can pass by the next strawman in advance.
People under 40 don't about the USSR anymore.
If you think it's not going to massacre him in the general, including his admittance to being a "Democratic Socialist", as I said ...
vote for him. I am fairly certain I have made the correct choice in terms of who is electable, and have plenty of metrics, polls and historic American political campaigns to support my belief and understand how this country works in elections. But if you were planning to convince anyone of supporting Bernie with this almost comically naive handwaving about such issues, you'll need to move on to the next target. That shit wouldn't even pass muster on Fox News.
The revisionism is strong if you're that quick to ignore the right wing shit Obama willingly passed and defended.
He has compromised on many things, which is what any president is going to have to do as a Democrat to get any legislation passed ever. Period. There is no other way until well after the 2020 census at earliest. I'll take the way of getting some things I want on occasion then getting no things I want ever. You can have Bernie and take the cookies and the cookie jar with you - but then the country will revolt about the very idea of socialism with how ineffectual he is, and you won't see a REAL socialist who can actually pass any of the legislation you dream about at night for another two generations. Good luck on your choice, once again.
As will Hillary since she will inspire nobody to vote in midterm elections (unlike Sanders).
Obama couldn't inspire people to get out in the mid-terms, and he was 10x the charismatic figure and pulled in demographics Bernie is not even going to sniff. Once again, if you've genuinely convinced yourself into thinking Bernie is going to be THE ONE™ to finally do this (based on nothing since the Democratic turnout in the primaries has been unremarkable as fuck and there is no real evidence Bernie has a workable coalition outside of young folk for a nationwide election), then I once again say have fun voting for him. I am
pretty sure I know better here based on your arguments, but who knows - you may be right. I'll put 100 vegas dollars down on me being right and will consider it the easiest hundred I've ever made.
I want an actual liberal president who is less likely to compromise with right wing. His accomplishments will be in not repeating Obama's triangulations. Hillary will defend and extend the worst of Obama's presidency (banker appointees, drones on children, NSA, etc.)
So you want someone who is going to get nothing done. A Democrat version of the tea party. Cool bro. Good luck with that.
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