The Nintendo Switch has 72 First Party games that have sold over 1 million copies - Thegamer.com

yurinka

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Why do you keep making it about Sony vs. Nintendo? At no point in any of the posts in this thread has Celine said third parties make more money on Switch than PS. What he has correctly pointed is out is that there is a high number of third party sales on Switch.
Because comparing the revenue they make in Nintendo vs Sony (or vs PC) and the percentage of 3rd party sales vs the revenue we can see if the one they make on Switch is big or small and where the main 3rd party business is.

Do you have any examples of this that are day-and-date releases and not extremely late ports? The only recent day-and-date Switch/PlayStation release I can think of that wasn't an indie game is Dragon Quest 3 HD-2D and all indications are that that sold substantially better on the Switch.
As far as I know we only have the retail only, Japan only sales of the game. Which are not representative of total worldwide physical+digital sales: Japan only represents around 20% of the market, the percent of physical sales are way higher in Switch than in PS and the proportion of Switch vs PS sales in Japan is way skewed to Switch than in the rest of the world.

It's hard to compare day and date games from big publishers, because they normally release their games in PS and not in Switch (at least day one), and when they do they normally don't share sales.

We can compare instead the revenue make in PS vs Switch from Sony and Nintendo reports each quarter, or platform splits that the 3rd party publishers share sometimes (about their whole company, not only game specific).
 
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Hookshot

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I still have no idea why yurinka yurinka was upset with the fact that Nintendo 1st party games sold more than PlayStation 1st party games and tried to derail the thread with 3rd party game sales.

One more fact that probably will make him angrier than before: MK8D made more profits than all Sony 1st-party games on PS5 combined.
I try to keep impartial on here but we all know the true metric of success for a games company is not how many of their own games they sell to their fans, it’s how many kids they can make buy vbucks.
 

Mozza

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Its sold more launch aligned, but not more in total yet. The final total was 1.537 billion so Switch has some way to go yet

Depends on the game. Switch doesn't have great sales for Sports games for example, so games like FIFA, NBA and MLB are likely to sell much more on PS than Switch.
I thought Sony had sold around 1.24 billion, my bad.
 

Woopah

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Because comparing the revenue they make in Nintendo vs Sony (or vs PC) and the percentage of 3rd party sales vs the revenue we can see if the one they make on Switch is big or small and where the main 3rd party business is.
If we compare Capcom's sales on PS vs. PC, we'd see that PC was higher. Doesn't mean PS sales are poor.

If we compare Nintendo vs. Sony for first party sales, Nintendo will be way higher. Doesn't mean Sony's first party games on PS4/PS5 have sold low numbers

Do third party games sell more on PS than Switch? Yes. Does that make 700+ million a low number? No.

If third parties want to have higher sales from Nintendo, then they need to release more games. That is what we'll see from Switch 2.
Ah for some reason I thought Pokémon didn't show up until GBC. Makes more sense now.
For Nintendo the GBC is a model of GameBoy (like the DSi or Switch OLED). They don't count it as a separate platform
I thought Sony had sold around 1.24 billion, my bad.
That's what is was at in 2007, but of course PS2 continue to be sold for another 5 years.
 

SHA

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Mmm, mobile numbers, Nintendo's done playing the old school graphics game with Playstation and Microsoft. The only thing I fear is mobile Xbox and Playstation will chase those numbers and leave traditional consoles behind.
 

Deerock71

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How many of those are remakes, remasters, or just a new port of a game?
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ArtHands

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They are lumped together, but I'm saying it should count if at least 1 million of those units are on PS5

GT7 has sold over 13 million units. I'd say its very unlikely that fewer than 1 million of those sales came from the PS5.

Otherwise it's not an accurate list, as you are excluding a whole bunch of Sony first party million sellers just because they are cross gen.

But they don't count in the list. That's the criteria in the list.

Not every platforms there in the list has cross-buy, it's only fair to omit cross-buy in that case.
 

Woopah

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But they don't count in the list. That's the criteria in the list.

Not every platforms there in the list has cross-buy, it's only fair to omit cross-buy in that case.
So where are on the on the list would put things like GT7?

The criteria is first party games that have sold over 1 million units. If 1 million PS5 owners bought GT7, why does it matter if PS4 owners can buy it too?
 
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bender

What time is it?
So where are on the on the list would put things like GT7?

The criteria is first party games that have sold over 1 million units. If 1 million PS5 owners bought GT7, why does it matter if PS4 owners can buy it too?

He's just trolling.
 

Celine

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You don't know what you are talking about.
Third-party game sales of about 700M refers to titles with physical release thus should be around 2500-2600 games (if we go by the american game releases) by the end of 2024.
The average though won't tell much because not every game is equal (in budgets, expectations, appeal).
Even with the same franchise name, it won't tell much without knowing the context.
The Witcher III on Switch is above 2 million units, which isn't much compared to the whole volume of sale for the game.
However the Switch version came out 4 and half years after the PC, PS4 and XBO versions...
For CD Projekt it was a good bussiness decision because the cost of the port that enabled millions of additional sales was much smaller than the creation of a whole new big budget game.
The following graph recently shared by CD Projekt highlights well what I was referring to.
Despite being a years late port and on a weaker platform The Witcher 3 NSW helped the game tail sales since its introduction in late 2019.
The Witcher 3 NSW generated more revenue than the Xbox versions since 2020 and especially in 2020 and 2022 (2021 was also very close too) was the best selling, revenue-wise, console version.
While the NSW port proved to be a challenge for the platform, it was surely much cheaper to produce than creating a wholly new game from the ground up.
The Witcher 3 NSW was a beneficial strategic decision by CD Projekt that always had as a goal to be additive since by the point the NSW port was available The Witcher 3 was several years old (the context I was talking about).


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ArtHands

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So where are on the on the list would put things like GT7?

The criteria is first party games that have sold over 1 million units. If 1 million PS5 owners bought GT7, why does it matter if PS4 owners can buy it too?

That’s how the list criteria works, and they are applying the criteria to Switch too. I don’t see why there has to be an answer to it. It’s like asking why lemon is yellow. It could be possibly because there’s no way of telling whether people are buying it to play as a PS5 game, PS4 game or both
 
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Ozzie666

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I iwonder how Electronic Arts is feeling right now. No excuses, they should have been a major supporter and had numerous titltes hitting over 1M. Their sports games, SSX or Street series. So much lost revenue for share holders.

The N64 really forged Nintendo into carrying their consoles on their backs through first party titles.
 

Sooner

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Once again, from Wii U to Switch, is definitely such a hell of comeback.
Yeah. Wii U had boring crap like

Mario Kart 8
New Super Mario Bros U
Super Mario 3D World
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze
Breath of the Wild

While Switch had massive hits like

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe
Super Mario 3D World + Bower's Fury
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze with New Funky Mode
Breath of the Wild
 
It is so validating to see the SNES that far down the list.

The love for this system still baffles me to this day.

It was the most popular console during the formative years of a lot of people who were in the business when video game journalism really took off.

It's also where most of Nintendo's big franchises really hit their stride: Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Mario Kart, etc. Same for JRPGs. Plus it had a great controller.
 
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Woopah

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That’s how the list criteria works, and they are applying the criteria to Switch too. I don’t see why there has to be an answer to it. It’s like asking why lemon is yellow. It could be possibly because there’s no way of telling whether people are buying it to play as a PS5 game, PS4 game or both
I'm saying its a flawed methodology. For example, BOTW should be counted as a first party million seller for both Switch and Wii U, and it is.

Cross gen games need to be on the list. It's obvious that titles like HFW and God of War Ragnarok sold over 1 million on PS5.
 

Deerock71

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I iwonder how Electronic Arts is feeling right now. No excuses, they should have been a major supporter and had numerous titltes hitting over 1M. Their sports games, SSX or Street series. So much lost revenue for share holders.

The N64 really forged Nintendo into carrying their consoles on their backs through first party titles.
They'll never bring it up at board meetings. They're still evaluating whether it's a good fit.
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ArtHands

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I'm saying its a flawed methodology. For example, BOTW should be counted as a first party million seller for both Switch and Wii U, and it is.

Cross gen games need to be on the list. It's obvious that titles like HFW and God of War Ragnarok sold over 1 million on PS5.

it isn’t a flawed methodology, if the aim is to determine the sales of true exclusive. PS4/5 crossbuy game isn’t true exclusive.
 

Woopah

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it isn’t a flawed methodology, if the aim is to determine the sales of true exclusive. PS4/5 crossbuy game isn’t true exclusive.
Nowhere does the article mention "true exclusive". Neither BOTW or Twilight Princess are true exclusives anyway.

The criteria here is stated as "games that were published by Sony Computer Entertainment and sold over a million copies."

GT7, GOW:R and HFW are games that were published by Sony, and they sold over a million copies. Therefore they should be represented.
 

ArtHands

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Nowhere does the article mention "true exclusive". Neither BOTW or Twilight Princess are true exclusives anyway.

The criteria here is stated as "games that were published by Sony Computer Entertainment and sold over a million copies."

GT7, GOW:R and HFW are games that were published by Sony, and they sold over a million copies. Therefore they should be represented.

Well in here, they are excluded because they are crossbuy non-exclusive games, unlike BOTW and Twilight Princess.
 

Woopah

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Well in here, they are excluded because they are crossbuy non-exclusive games, unlike BOTW and Twilight Princess.
At no point in the article do they mention excluding crossbuy. They've also left out Helldivers 2, which I don't think is crossbuy.

Here's what's happened. The author of this article has gone to the best selling PS5 game Wikipedia page and counted the number of games published by Sony. They haven't realised that Wikipedia is not a complete source.
 

Sephiran

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No one is forcing Sony to not be as open as Nintendo is about their software sales, if Sony wanted to they could easily and openly submit detail of how PS5 games are selling, which would give us the means to compare with other console software sales.
 

KungFucius

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How many of those are remakes, remasters, or just a new port of a game?
How many useless questions like this does NeoGaf have? Seriously who the fuck cares? The system before the switch sold 1/10th the number of systems. Every single good game on that system should have been ported if possible because next to nobody had the chance to even play them. After 8 years you really need to come up with a better dis for the switch.

This is basically:
OP posts something
Commenter Posts: What about the 5% that are somehow not good even though they are captured by OPs post
Rest of people in thread: A little dumber for having to read and process commenter's post.
 

Woopah

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No one is forcing Sony to not be as open as Nintendo is about their software sales, if Sony wanted to they could easily and openly submit detail of how PS5 games are selling, which would give us the means to compare with other console software sales.
To be fair it's Nintendo that is the odd one out here (along with Capcom). The vast majority of publishers follow the Sony model.
 

kevboard

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It is so validating to see the SNES that far down the list.

The love for this system still baffles me to this day.

yeah... how weird that prople love the console that not only introduced shoulder buttons, but also the diamond shaped button layout every modern controller still uses.

the console that had ridiculously good games like Super Metroid, Mario World, Link to the Past, F-Zero, Mega Man X, Contra 3, Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong Country, Final Fantasy 6, Chrono Trigger, Super Ghouls n Ghosts, Super Star Wars...

I could go on like this for ages, and haven't even listed seuqels like Mega Man X2 and X3 yet...

all the games I listed are easily among the best games of that generation, and some of them among the best games ever made period.
 
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ArtHands

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At no point in the article do they mention excluding crossbuy. They've also left out Helldivers 2, which I don't think is crossbuy.

Here's what's happened. The author of this article has gone to the best selling PS5 game Wikipedia page and counted the number of games published by Sony. They haven't realised that Wikipedia is not a complete source.

They didn’t say they are including crossbuy, because that’s pretty obvious that crossbuy would mean the game isn’t playable only on 1 machine and therefore not an exclusive.
 

Woopah

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They didn’t say they are including crossbuy, because that’s pretty obvious that crossbuy would mean the game isn’t playable only on 1 machine and therefore not an exclusive.
Those games would indeed not be exclusive, which is also irrelevant.

Nowhere does the article mention the game has to be exclusive, in fact it counts several games which are not exclusive.

Again, this list has been created by someone just looking at Wikipedia. And that's why it's not accurate. The author didn't care if a game was exclusive or crossbuy or anything like that.

Edit: To give an example, for PS3 he's counted Minecraft as a first party million seller. Are you willing to admit the list is inaccurate?
 
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