The NX Prediction / BSpeculation / Fanxiety Thread

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This whole "Something something internet"+"Something something phones" idea on a reveal a month before release is utterly nonsensical. Six months seems like the absolute limit.

Agreed so much. A phone is a known quantity at this point. One needs time to explain a completely new piece of hardware and why people want to buy it/save money for it. Time is running out for Nintendo. They have to reveal it in the near future.
 
Got to love it when these self indulgent rumor peeps act all defensive when they set them selves up a backlash in the first place. If you want to put it out there, deal with it.

BTW I'm betting on at least one major thing being a disappointment about the NX. Its been this way since the N64 so its more than likely

It depends what people expect. The people that expect a Red Dead Redemption 2 NX port, for example, will almost certainly be disappointed.

As for rumours, I appreciate them. Is it a wonder why so many people keep quiet when everyone shoots the messenger?
 
Nah, we all taste salty... and we all are dehydrated cause we are so thirsty...



But they gave us a forewarning. even two, one was last year and another one this year in april in a short tweet. They covered their bases...

Which amounts to 'Hey! We have new hardware coming out!'. Means next to nothing, and is no way adequate.
 
I don't know if this is true. Investors don't seem to care, and will be more than satisfied with news about SMR and Pokemon.

I honestly think Nintendo could get away with: "not talking about NX today, more to come".

Nintendo's stock is at a relative (post-Wii years) high, on the basis of their new mobile strategy.

I don't thinks it's that easy. It has a direct impact on this fiscal year and the start of the next one. Nintendo already delayed 3 of the mobile games with one slipping into the next fiscal year and AC and FE probably not generating too much income for this FY. Practically they only have Pokemon and Super Mario Run for now. Which is still potentially huge, but no NX news might make some investors nervous.
 
Even with the market existing, the phone producers spend a ton of money on promoting their newest phone. You see ads everywhere even for preparing the announcements.

Good point. The life cycle of a phone also lends itself to that immediacy of a short lead with huge marketing, followed by an info dump and then on sale shortly afterwards. There's almost no part of that model that I can see Nintendo replicating.
 
Nope. 3DO / CagEnt's MX technology, bought by Microsoft, never got used in the original Xbox that launched -- That was entirely an Nvidia + Intel chipset. It may have been the WebTV team's proposal for a console, which was ultimately rejected, that would use MX or GigaPixel's graphics chip.

Here's an article that goes over most of what I posted originally from Next Generation:

https://dromble.wordpress.com/2014/01/07/dolphin-tale-story-of-gamecube/

Now, It has been said that ArtX had obviously seen what 3DO / CagEnt had done with the MX technology, using graphics RAM built directly onto the graphics chip, and while ArtX probably didn't copy it, they likely decided to go that same route with their own design (Flipper) also using embedded (MoSys) memory. Also, instead of using MIPS CPU, as Nintendo originally wanted for the MX graphics tech (it was coupled with PowerPC) ArtX probably helped Nintendo decide to choose IBM as their CPU partner, and get PowerPC architecture in the new console (Dolphin) same as what 3DO chose for M2 and MX.

Slightly confusing but interesting at the same time.

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There are some basic similarities between M2, MX and Dolphin / GameCube. The MX technology was never seen directly though, whereas M2 was, an existed in 5 Konami arcade games and numerous demos. But It is fair to say the GameCube represented a big leap over the MX technology in terms of sheer polygon performance, just as the MX technology was a leap over the M2.

Very interesting indeed. Thanks for this as well. You seem very knowledgeable with this stuff :)
 
I don't know if this is true. Investors don't seem to care, and will be more than satisfied with news about SMR and Pokemon.

I honestly think Nintendo could get away with: "not talking about NX today, more to come".

Nintendo's stock is at a relative (post-Wii years) high, on the basis of their new mobile strategy.

They probably could have if they hadn't already set expectations earlier in the year that they would talk more about the system this year.

The problem comes in on the negative signs of not having any info yet with thr year almost over and then saying at the investor meeting they aren't gonna talk about it.

That leaves investors wondering why.

To be fair Nintendo brass brought this on themselves by saying they'd have more info coming later this year vs just saying they weren't ready to talk about NX yet.
 
The major gripe I have with Emily Rogers regarding her reporting of the NX, is that she ALWAYS appears to wait until somebody else with some credibility has something to reveal about the NX...and she then immediately after starts tweeting about how her own supposed "sources" told her the same thing, trying to give the impression that she's so amazing & important, and already knew beforehand what had just been revealed to the public.

As an example, she MASSIVELY latched onto the Eurogamer report, and interjected herself into the explicitly detailed leak about the NX, by doing what she always does...waiting for someone else to reveal something first, and then her adding a crappy tidbit or two of supposed "insider info" that's way too vague and non-specific to even mean much.

I just feel she's a bit of an opportunist, and I don't like how she continually hijacks leaks/reveals from other media sources, and tries to take credit for it.
It's almost as if she's full of bs. All I've seen of her is either wrong, re-reporting other sources or astrologer-tier babble anyone could guess.

Most of her attention probably comes from the fact that her rumours sound nice and real news about Nintendo haven't been exciting in a long time.
 
It depends what people expect. The people that expect a Red Dead Redemption 2 NX port, for example, will almost certainly be disappointed.

As for rumours, I appreciate them. Is it a wonder why so many people keep quiet when everyone shoots the messenger?

Yeah I guess agree, I like speculating on rumors as well, but there is surprising amount of arrogance that I'm seeing and have lost some respect... like calling people out that their rumor/source is legit over someone else's. That's childish crap.
 
How is the Nvidia partnership common sense, or safe assumption ? It's like the most unexpected thing about the NX, and she was also the first to say that, and will be followed later by Eurogamer..

Are you fucking kidding me?...you are falling for her BS again!

Emily tweeted this a few hours ago, somehow as evidence that she knew about Nvidia's involvement with the NX (she's shitting herself because she now knows her reputation is on very shaky grounds).....

Emily Rogers ‏@ArcadeGirl64 3h3 hours ago

@ArcadeGirl64 I even told NateDrake on Gaf, back in May, to tell them that Nvidia was involved. I tried my hardest.


Here's the post she's referring to dated May 16th...

Had a lengthy chat with Emily today, and she shared some information with me on all the rumor talk going on recently. Those thinking she is making stuff up for attention or that is she holding a carrot in front of you for laughs are wrong. Her sources are legit, and the claims are backed by several sources. She is sharing the information she has and is clearing the air of misinformation. It isn't being shared for attention.

She did say I could share this small bit with you: "Nvidia is involved with Nintendo's future hardware."

You want to know when she "reported" this info...about 48 hours AFTER SemiAccurate had already leaked the info.

There's even a 29 page thread here at NeoGAF about it back on May 14th (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1218933).

This is what I mean...she patiently waits until somebody else reveals a big fat juicy secret about the NX, and then she jumps at the opportunity to interject herself and give the impression that she's also in on the secrets that are being leaked.
 
I'm pretty sure the whole point of an investors meeting is for nintendo to update their investors on their performance throughout the year and what their projections still are as well as share any updates that may influence the stock price. If nintendo knows the system will be delayed and they neglect to tell their share holders and act like they are still gonna make X amount of money due to hardware launch, they can be held accountable for withholding information. If it is delayed they have to say it, im certain there is no way they can't tell their investors.

I'm not so sure. How, and when you know a system won't hit a certain release date will surely be down to a fluctuation of various factors, and why say for certain if there's a chance it could still make its original release date? It's not necessarily a binary yes or no answer, rather a projection, and the most accurate time to say would be January.
 
It's almost as if she's full of bs. All I've seen of her is either wrong, re-reporting other sources or astrologer-tier babble anyone could guess.

Most of her attention probably comes from the fact that her rumours sound nice and real news about Nintendo haven't been exciting in a long time.

What about that time she said Nintendo was working on Paper Mario Wii U and turned out absolutely correct?
 
As I'm bored I'm going to make a list of NX 2017 lineup

Launch - March
Zelda BotW
Super Smash Bros Port
New IP that uses NXs new gimmick to the full potential
Pikmin 4
Just Dance

April
Tekken 7 (with 2 Pokken characters exclusive)

May
New AAA Retro game

August
Dragon Quest XI

September
New 3D Mario Game

October
Skylanders AmiiBo ripoff

November
Pokémon Eclipse
Sonic

December
Spla2oon

I think they will spread ports out in different years to not make the NX look like a port machine. So a enhanced Mario Maker port in 2018 would be better served next year while Nintendo concentrate marketing the big 3D Mario game next year.
 
Are you fucking kidding me?...you are falling for her BS again!

Emily tweeted this a few hours ago, somehow as evidence that she knew about Nvidia's involvement with the NX (she's shitting herself because she now knows her reputation is on very shaky grounds).....

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Here's the post she's referring to dated May 16th...



You want to know when she "reported" this info...about 48 hours AFTER SemiAccurate had already leaked the info.

There's even a 29 page thread here at NeoGAF about it back on May 14th (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1218933).

This is what I mean...she patiently waits until somebody else reveals a big fat juicy secret about the NX, and then she jumps at the opportunity to interject herself and give the impression that she's also in on the secrets that are being leaked.

Sorry but I don't want to talk to someone so frustrated and loud. Please calm down in the first place and then we can have a nice and slow conversation.
 
Please stop responding to the people who are trying to turn this into a "bash Emily" topic.
What about that time she said Nintendo was working on Paper Mario Wii U and turned out absolutely correct?

Just stop responding to them. Some of them are trolls as it is and some just dislike Emily.
 
Ya'll gonna get this thread locked with the Emily bashing. Please stop.

For real. Let's get back to NX speculation

As I'm bored I'm going to make a list of NX 2017 lineup

Launch - March
Zelda BotW
Super Smash Bros Port
New IP that uses NXs new gimmick to the full potential
Pikmin 4
Just Dance

April
Tekken 7 (with 2 Pokken characters exclusive)

May
New AAA Retro game

August
Dragon Quest XI

September
New 3D Mario Game

October
Skylanders AmiiBo ripoff

November
Pokémon Eclipse
Sonic

December
Spla2oon

I think they will spread ports out in different years to not make the NX look like a port machine. So a enhanced Mario Maker port in 2018 would be better served next year while Nintendo concentrate marketing the big 3D Mario game next year.

Looks reasonable, but why release the 3D Mario in September instead of the holiday season?
 
What about that time she said Nintendo was working on Paper Mario Wii U and turned out absolutely correct?
I respect Emily and find her to be reliable (even though I'm skeptical of her regardless, but that's how I treat every self-proclaimed insider from NateDrake to Verendus), but to be fair, Paper Mario Wii U was leaked in Japan last year.

Wasn't that also reported by others before (Liam and ShockingAlberto)?
We got reports that an Int Sys employee told people that the studio currently works on a new Paper Mario for Wii U at some kind of Japanese job fair.
 
As I'm bored I'm going to make a list of NX 2017 lineup

Launch - March
Zelda BotW
Super Smash Bros Port
New IP that uses NXs new gimmick to the full potential
Pikmin 4
Just Dance

April
Tekken 7 (with 2 Pokken characters exclusive)

May
New AAA Retro game

August
Dragon Quest XI

September
New 3D Mario Game

October
Skylanders AmiiBo ripoff

November
Pokémon Eclipse
Sonic

December
Spla2oon

I think they will spread ports out in different years to not make the NX look like a port machine. So a enhanced Mario Maker port in 2018 would be better served next year while Nintendo concentrate marketing the big 3D Mario game next year.

This actually feels pretty realistic.

But we all know the AAA Retro game is D(fucking)K
 
Here's a simple recap for those who don't understand.

Being hyped and speculating about NX = Good

Being agitated and mudslinging about people like Emily Rogers = Bad
 
22 pages while I was sleeping, and some really frustrating and nasty reactions to some twitter stuff.

Just try to think about what is going on inside Nintendo right now for this type of information to be coming out the way it is. It's clear that they have not yet nailed down the exact reveal date- everyone seems to agree it's within this and next week, but it seems apparent that Nintendo haven't quite decided on exactly when yet.

I'm still betting on next Monday or Tuesday for an actual reveal event. It just seems like the best time for maximum impact. We still may get news this week.
 
What about that time she said Nintendo was working on Paper Mario Wii U and turned out absolutely correct?

Yeah as much as people want to dump on her I think she has legitimate sources, possibly developer(s) and/or marketing peeps working with Nintendo. I like her commentary and follow her but I would just recommend moving forward that she takes the high road with peoples opposing views.

Instead of stuff like this:

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