The NX Prediction / BSpeculation / Fanxiety Thread

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I'm an NX truther. The NX doesn't exist. It's a massive hoax perpetrated by Nintendo to keep the population distracted and complacent. Eurogamer and others are all in on it. They'll keep saying the announcement is coming next week, every week, for as long as people will believe them.
 
megashock5 said:
An interesting thing to remember about the Wii's $249 price was that it included a pack in game, arguably the flagship launch title. N64 and GameCube at $199 had no game included, for comparison.
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Plus it was launching against the $400 360 and $600 PS3 at the time.

The NX will be launching against the cheaper $300 Xone/PS4 SKUs, as well as a mobile market built on devices that literally billions of people already have. It's going to be a much harder sell in that context, regardless of what the price is.
 
Scrawnton said:
It's rumored to be a handheld/console hybrid.
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Again, there are far more people looking for a Nintendo handheld than a Nintendo console.

The Wii U sold 13 million. The 3DS sold 60 million.

The Wii sold 102 million. The DS sold 154 million.

The Gamecube sold 22 million. The GBA sold 82 million.

The handheld customers have to be the main audience if the NX is the successor to the 3DS.
 
Scrawnton said:
Console is something you play games on a tv. A handheld has its own screen for gaming on the go. Two different functionalities combined. That's what a hybrid is.
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In the purest definition, sure. However, it's about perception and I doubt many people would call that a hybrid.
 
Toxi said:
Again, there are far more people looking for a Nintendo handheld than a Nintendo console.

The Wii U sold 13 million. The 3DS sold 60 million.

The Wii sold 102 million. The DS sold 154 million.

The Gamecube sold 22 million. The GBA sold 82 million.

The handheld customers have to be the main audience if the NX is the successor to the 3DS.
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I'm in for NX more for the handheld component, but if that handheld plugs into a tv that still makes it a hybrid. I'd rather have the system be handheld with the console not being on par with PS4 than a PS4 like console with compromised handheld gameplay.

EDarkness said:
In the purest definition, sure. However, it's about perception and I doubt many people would call that a hybrid.
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If the system lets you take the handheld off the tv dock and then play the same game on the go and on the tv, how can anyone say that is not a hybrid? That's exactly what a hybrid is; 2 in 1. It's not a complicated concept to understand.
 
ThaBruce said:
Lets remember that 3DS launched at $249 and there were massive sales problems so Nintendo cut the price drastically less than a year from the launch to under $200 in N.A.
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i don't think 3DS is a good example. it seemed like an ace in the hole in 2010 but when the rubber hit the pavement the 3D effect wasn't a draw like expected (by ninetendo, developers, and consumers alike) so they basically had a marginally upgraded DS on their hands and priced it accordingly.

valuation of NX will be based on what it has to offer. not going to be relative to past systems, not whether it's a "handheld" or not. no pricepoint is DOA until the pitch is made
 
Toxi said:
The handheld audience is much larger than the home console audience, so capturing them is more important.
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is it? how are 3ds sales vs xboxONE/PS4?
Also, i feel like its been established that the handheld market has shrunk and IS shrinking, thanks to mobile gaming.

Where as the console sales for the generation so far, are outpacing that of the ps360 cycle.

I think it makes more sense to capture a market that is seeing growth, over one that is seeing a decline.
 
Nintendo can do so much with so little in terms of hardware power that I really don't feel like NX needs to be very powerful to be great. The Galaxy games on Wii looked and played better than 90% of ps3 and xbox 360 games. Mario Kart 8 and SM3DW on Wii U look better than many XOne and PS4 games.

I think Nintendo's best strategy would be to come in with this device so that they can sell below $199. Even if it was no more powerful than Wii U.......If Nintendo was putting all of their development teams efforts into producing quality games for this device at a rate never before seen on a Nintendo system, this thing would sell and sell BIG. Because at the end of the day I never find myself unsatisfied with Nintendo game graphics - rather - I find myself in awe of how they achieved such pretty graphics on such "inferior" hardware.
 
I'm not gonna believe any price rumors. I doubt that Nintendo has even finalized pricing, let alone told anyone outside of the company anything other than something vague like "it won't cost more than Wii U."
 
Scrawnton said:
If the system lets you take the handheld off the tv dock and then play the same game on the go and on the tv, how can anyone say that is not a hybrid? That's exactly what a hybrid is; 2 in 1. It's not a complicated concept to understand.
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Because the Sony handhelds could do the same thing as can my iPhone and iPad. I doubt anyone really calls those hybrid systems. They're handhelds/phones that can connect to the TV. This isn't some new functionality that Nintendo invented. This kind of thing has been around for a long time.
 
trutrutru said:
is it? how are 3ds sales vs xboxONE/PS4?
Also, i feel like its been established that the handheld market has shrunk and IS shrinking, thanks to mobile gaming.

Where as the console sales for the generation so far, are outpacing that of the ps360 cycle.

I think it makes more sense to capture a market that is seeing growth, over one that is seeing a decline.
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The problem is Nintendo home consoles are declining even harder.
 
Still not sure what's such a big deal about it catering more to the handheld crowd, or why there's such a negative stigma behind having a console that is also a portable.

If it shares all the same buttons, ergonomics and usability in it's console form as a portable, what is there to lose? Extremely high end visuals (something Nintendo's not chasing)? Missing some functionality a console would have (which considering it being a hybrid, I doubt they'd do)?

Other than those two, I don't know what could be enough of a problem that it puts off so many people.
 
Cerium said:
I'm an NX truther. The NX doesn't exist. It's a massive hoax perpetrated by Nintendo to keep the population distracted and complacent. Eurogamer and others are all in on it. They'll keep saying the announcement is coming next week, every week, for as long as people will believe them.
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You're wrong. The NX does exist, and I heard that they're being produced in Africa. Nintendo doesn't want to release the production certificates to prove they're African, because they know that they're taking away American jobs by not making them in the USA
 
Azoo said:
Still not sure what's such a big deal about it catering more to the handheld crowd, or why there's such a negative stigma behind having a console that is also a portable.

If it shares all the same buttons, ergonomics and usability in it's console form as a portable, what is there to lose? Extremely high end visuals (something Nintendo's not chasing)? Missing some functionality a console would have (which considering it being a hybrid, I doubt they'd do)?

Other than those two, I don't know what could be enough of a problem that it puts off so many people.
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The problem is parity and the ability for ports from the other systems to make their way to the NX.
 
EDarkness said:
Because the Sony handhelds could do the same thing as can my iPhone and iPad. I doubt anyone really calls those hybrid systems. They're handhelds/phones that can connect to the TV. This isn't some new functionality that Nintendo invented. This kind of thing has been around for a long time.
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No one said it was a new invention by Nintendo. And Sonys implementation wasn't a hybrid. It was individual games running on two separate systems. When playing a PS4 game away from home you were remotely accessing a system via the internet with obvious hits in performance.

Also no one said it wasn't done before. I was stating that the idea of a hybrid system is not difficult to understand and it won't confuse people.
 
randomengine said:
The problem is parity and the ability for ports from the other systems to make their way to the NX.
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There's absolutely no way to know if it's a problem without knowing the internals, specs etc and how much that affects developers trying to port or make games for it, other than naysayers jumping to "lol handheld = severely underpowered".
 
Guess which controller prototype Nintendo
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didn't abandon after all!

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I probably dont represent the mass market, but I would love a 399 premium handheld (know its not gonna happen) from Nintendo

Commuting everyday for hours with the psv, with premium look and feel. Cant see myself sitting with a fisher Price device ala Nintendo in my late 20's on the train and have people staring at me all the time (sad but true here in Sweden). But I love the Nintendo softwares. Henkaku Will do for now

Surprice me ninty!
 
Azoo said:
There's absolutely no way to know if it's a problem without knowing the internals, specs etc and how much that affects developers trying to port or make games for it, other than naysayers jumping to "lol handheld = severely underpowered".
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Well if you want to give them a counter argument just say that the Vita gets a lot of PS4 ports. This thing will be a lot more powerful than Vita, so if it is a handheld, it should be able to get ports.
 
Clessidor said:
Well, there is a strong Emily hate force on reddit.

Seriously, you have every right to doubt Emily. I'm doubting as well. The problem is there is a whole movement which just tries everything to discredit everybody involved about hybrid rumours, and try to push their home console speculation. And that is going too far. It's when stuff turn toxic.
I can understand doubt and not believing. But choosing everything, grapping every straw to already declear somebody's claims as wrong, because an other insider says this, that is too much in my opinion.
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The hybrid folk are doing exactly that as well. No one's innocent here. Apart from the few mature ones who like to discuss both.
 
I think Nintendo is going after the "handheld market" because that is where their blue ocean strategy comes into play. I believe their strategy is to put out quality mobile games on android and IOS, get millions of people exposed to their content, and then lure these consumers into the nintendo ecosystem through mobile. Many millions of consumers who never would have thought about buying a dedicated video game handheld will all of the sudden be interested after exposure to nintendo experiences via mobile. In fact, this just happened with Pokeman Go. 3DS sales exploded due to interest in Nintendo, spawned by that mobile game......the same thing could happen with Super Mario Run and countless other potential Nintendo mobile blockbusters.

In my opinion this is a fantastic strategy. While Sony and Microsft are focusing on tech that only 1% of people have (4K). Nintendo is focusing on tech that everybody has (mobile). Nintendo is going to use premium mobile games on IOS and Droid as their gateway to bringing new customers into Nintendo. Its like advertising on mobile for nintendo, except instead of paying money to do it, Nintendo will be making millions off the mobile software while at the same time be advertising their hardware which will be portrayed as offering a more authentic Nintendo experince.

Really.......Its fucking genious.
 
TLZ said:
The hybrid folk are doing exactly that as well. No one's innocent here. Apart from the few mature ones who like to discuss both.
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I love big meaty NX discussions. One of the mods, Youngblood posted early today that one of the reasons the NX speculation threads get locked is because some posters around here PM them to say we aren't talking about anything useful. What that tells me is that there are posters here who get bent out of shape with the mere presence of NX threads on the first page. Who cares if we are all talking about nothing substantive for a bit, we usually do after a while. Why swoop in here and then tattle to the mods because it's not a discussion that is fruitful to their interests. Fucking weird.
 
Toxi said:
The problem is Nintendo home consoles are declining even harder.
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thats because Nintendo hasnt provided a console that was both developer friendly or on parity with its competition. If they provided a console that didnt alienate developers in ANY way, then things would be different. Especially if were to offer a shared library with a seperate handheld

so yes, nintendo has been selling worse and worse in the console department, but you have to look into why.

All things considered equal with their competition, and we could see some solid sales out of a nintendo console, especially if they treat the nx like a platform, a la ios and android.
 
Dolphin / pre-GameCube announcement rumors - July-August 2000.

* Star Cube

* Star Road online network

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/4801/network-called-star-road

According to Nintendo of Sweden, NCL have confirmed the name of Nintendo's system as Star Cube, and an online network where people play against each other will be called "Star Road."

According to Nintendo of Sweden's website, Nintendo of Japan have confirmed that the name of Nintendo's next system will in fact be Star Cube, and the online Network where people will be able to play against each other will be called Star Road. Could it be that the Swedish are right?

I spoke with one of our souces within Nintendo and he stated, "This "[Star Cube, Star Road, etc.] is all purely speculation. Everything will be revealed on August 24th at Spaceworld". Yadda yadda yadda. Here's the translated article taken from Nintendo of Sweden's website.

Sources from Nintendo in Japan have now confirmed that Nintendo´s new videogame, earlier called Project Dolphin, will be named Star Cube.The network, over which you will be able to play against people all over the world, will be named Star Road.Much more about Star Cube and Star Road will be presented at Space World 24-27 of August.
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-cube-name-seemingly-confirmed/1100-2606006/

The Nintendo of Sweden web site recently posted a rather interesting bit of information. According to the company web site, Nintendo of Japan sources have confirmed the name Star Cube for Nintendo's next-generation console. The site further states that the name Star Road will be used for the console's online network.

The speculation on the Star Cube name began when reports surfaced that Nintendo of America had filed for trademarks of the name. According to the US Patent and Trademark office, NOA has filed three different trademark requests for the Star Cube name. The goods and services to be covered under these trademark requests include: video game machines for use with a monitor or a television, video game machine accessories, video game controllers, video game joysticks, electronic game equipment for playing video games, electronic memory expansion devices for game equipment, handheld video game machines, electronic games accessed networkwide by network users, and electronic game products, among others.

When contacted for comment, Nintendo of America could not confirm the name, only stating that it remains as speculation until the official name is announced at the SpaceWorld show in late August.
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http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/nintendos-new-network-appliance/1100-205/

For whatever reason, all this reminds me of the totally buck-wild rumors that were flying around right before Nintendo unveiled the GameCube, claiming that it was going to be called the StarCube, and that the associated online service would be called Star Road. Seriously, how cool would that have been?
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2000/08/18/no-starcube-for-you

The final name of Nintendo's next-generation console is not Starcube. A site editorial.

BY IGN STAFF In December of last year Nintendo of America registered the trademarks for "Star Cube," a mystery product that was directly related to both the hardware and software side of the company's behind-the-scenes plans. It wasn't long before the Internet was abuzz with speculation about exactly what the two words represented, and almost as quickly as you could mutter Star Cube, it was being declared the secret name for Nintendo's next-generation console by online and print media alike. Taking a look at the three Nintendo patents for Star Cube, it's easy to understand why. IGN64 has provided the company trademarks below:

"Star Cube" According to Nintendo of America Trademarks


1) Attachments to electronic controllers and joysticks for electronic video game machines to import feedback including vibrations that are perceptible to the user; electronic game equipment for playing video games and components therefore; electronic memory expansion device for electronic game equipment for playing video games; hand-held video game machine and accessories and software therefor-- electronic game programs; electronic game equipment for playing video games; player operated electronic controllers for electronic video games; player operated electronic controllers for electronic video game machines; video game accessories

2) Television programs in the field of children' s entertainment; providing electronic games accessed network wide by network users, accessed from a global computer network, accessed by a satellite system, accessed by digital or analog cable system and accessed by a telecommunications network; providing on-line access to educational services and information regarding electronic game programs, electronic game products, and electronically transmitted news and information regarding entertainment topics; providing computer/video game programs that are may be downloadable from a global computer network, from a satellite system, from a digital or analog cable system, from a telecommunications network or from other communications systems or networks; providing electronic game samples, news hints and other electronic game information through a global computer network a telecommunications network, a satellite system a digital or analog cable system or a telecommunications network; leasing and renting game machines for on-line network games

3) Adapter for video game machine to connect to telephones cellular telephones pagers satellites digital and analog cable transmission systems, global and local computer networks and other communications devices and systems and software therefore- cartridges, compact discs and optical disc containing data audio recordings visual recordings and audiovisual recordings; CD-ROM players; compact disc drives- computers; computer programs; computer software; computer memory devices; computer peripheral devices; computer game programs; computer game software; computer game discs; computer game peripherals and software therefor; computer telephony equipment and software; headphones; interface device between video game machine and telephones cellular telephones, pagers satellites digital and analog transmission systems, global and local computer networks and other communications devices and systems, and software therefor; electronic game programs; electronic game software; electronic game cartridges; electronic game discs electronic game machines; floppy disc drives; hard disc drives; interactive video game programs interactive video game software interactive electronic game machines; keyboards; memory cards; microphones- modems; optical disc drives- optical disc players; photographic camera and software therefore- telecommunications software; television set top boxes for reception of audio visual and/or digital signals; video camera and software therefor; video game equipment connectable to cellular telephones, pagers telephones satellites digital and analog transmission systems, and global and local computer networks and other communications devices and systems and software therefore- video game software; video game cartridges, video game discs video game programs, video game machines for use with a monitor or a television video game machine accessories video game controllers v,video game joy sticks
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Even more interesting, IGN64 affiliate Tendobox.com, in a great read, compared the Nintendo patents for Nintendo 64 and Star Cube and found that they were surprisingly similar, further indicating that Star Cube could in fact be the name of the company's next-generation console.

But...
So it all makes sense. Star Cube is the name for "Project Dolphin" and that settles that. Or does it? The truth, unfortunately, is not so cut and dry. Nintendo itself has never admitted that Star Cube could be the final name for its forthcoming console, and in fact has often denied it. "The name Star Cube [for our next-generation console] is nothing more than rumor and speculation," says the company. The Big "N" could be playing it safe, of course, but reports from development sources aren't so vague.

IGN64 spoke with nearly a dozen software houses (first-, second- and third-party) yesterday and today in order to finally figure out what the real name of Nintendo's next-generation console could be, and while we didn't uncover the system's soon-to-be-announced title, we got numerous confirmations on what it isn't: Star Cube. One development source that knows the final name of the console told us without hesitation that Star Cube is out of the running. "If you're planning on registering IGNStarcube.com -- don't bother," they mused. Oops! Anybody looking to buy a URL?

If Star Cube isn't the name of the console, what the heck is it? The truth is that we just don't know. Perhaps it's a connecting device, a controller, an add-on -- or perhaps it isn't. Nintendo's more secret than the CIA in these matters, and the company has all of us, some developers included, running around like mice in a maze looking for answers.

The moral of the story here, really, is that if developers are to be believed, you may want to hold off on that "Billy's Star Cube World" logo you've been working on for your website because, quite frankly, it could very well be the wrong name of Nintendo's coming console. The good news, of course, is that we'll finally know one way or the other in just 10 days, and that's not too long to wait... is it?

-- mc
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tendo box article

star cube
revealing the next generation

Over the past couple of months it has been revealed that the odd name Star Cube is linked to Nintendo and its next-generation plans. Ideas of what these two little words represented fluttered across the pages of the Internet and the minds of gamers everywhere, and until now, Nintendo's plans remained unclear. Tendo Box is here today to let you know what we believe Star Cube is and what it could mean to gamers. Please note that all this is based upon speculation drawn from Nintendo's Trademarks and Service Marks under the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

When we initially found the Star Cube registration in the U.S. trademark database, we were puzzled by the fact that it was registered three times. However, a little digging revealed that Nintendo's next-generation hand-held, the Game Boy Advance, was also registered three times, with three separate definitions for each registration. By using the Game Boy Advance registration logs, and Nintendo's original Nintendo 64 trademark as a Rosetta stone of sorts, we compared the seven registrations (three Star Cube, three Game Boy Advance and one Nintendo 64) and found that they had startling parallels between them. It is through this that we have deduced what Star Cube could be. The following pages will include the text included in the trademarks filed by Nintendo and our analysis of the facts.
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Analysis: The interesting point about the Star Cube description is that it is almost exactly like the description Nintendo used for the "Nintendo 64" trademark. The only notable differences noted are as follows: In the extended description of devices relating to video game equipment for playing games and their components, the Star Cube description has this additional line "hand-held video game machine and accessories and software." And in the area of video game accessories, the Nintendo 64 description spells out what they are while the Star Cube trademark description does not.

What this means is that this trademark is most likely for Nintendo's next console and it will probably be called Star Cube. It is already widely known Nintendo's Project Dolphin game console will be able to communicate with Nintendo's hand held game machine, the Game Boy Advance. The phrase "hand-held video game machine and accessories and software" in the Star Cube trademark only serves to reinforce our suspicion that this is indeed the name of Nintendo's upcoming console. And like the Nintendo 64's Trademark description, Star Cube's description spells out that the system COULD have controller communications, force feedback capabilities, memory expansion devices, and other assorted accessories that Nintendo has yet to reveal or decide if they want to reveal them. Another thing to note is that while the Game Boy Advance write-up is much shorter than its Nintendo 64 and Star Cube counterparts, the idea behind all three documents are largely the same. They all describe a video game machine, reinforcing the point that Star Cube will likely be Project: Dolphin’s official name.
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Analysis: Please note well the major difference between registration 1. on page 1 and registration 2. on page 2. The first was a trademark, covering a tangible product or object. The second is a service mark, which applies to a "service" Nintendo plans to provide or distribute in exchange for something else, most likely money. The description included talks about the fact that it is a network of some sort that will connect users using several possible means, including access "by a satellite system, accessed by digital or analog cable system and accessed by a telecommunications network". It is not certain whether Nintendo will be able to provide all of the aforementioned means of communication, any specific means of communication, or has plans to utilize any or all of them. The most logical explanation is that they’re covering all of the bases with their trademark just in case they choose to go down a certain route.

The description alludes to the makings of an on-line gaming service that, in Nintendo's own words, provides "electronic games [that is] accessed network wide by network users". The write-up went further with descriptions on what appears to be an intranet (internal network) with features such as "providing on-line access to educational services and information regarding electronic game programs, electronic game products, and electronically transmitted news and information regarding entertainment topics; providing computer/video game programs that are may be downloadable … providing electronic game samples (demos), news hints and other electronic game information through a global computer network". What it will most likely turn out to be is an online Nintendo Power Gaming Hub, if you will… with news reports, cheats, forums, chat, and online servers to connect to for online gaming.

As you can see, the Game Boy Advance’s service mark also contains largely the same wording as its Star Cube counterpart, minus references to satellite and analog/digital cable connections (for obvious reasons). This leads us to an interesting conclusion. We know as a fact that networks will be a big part of Nintendo’s Game Boy Advance strategy. Therefore, the similarly worded service mark on Star Cube points us to the theory that Star Cube’s service mark, like its Game Boy Advance counterpart, is referring to Nintendo’s on-line network. And that reinforces the idea that Star Cube will be the console’s name, and the console will have a network.

make it a starry nightThere is an extra clause in the Star Cube write-up missing in its Game Boy Advance counterpart and this extra line proves to be a very interesting one. Nintendo included the clause, "leasing and renting game machines for on-line network games" at the end of its Star Cube service mark registration. From a purely literal point of view, this seems to indicate that the proposed Nintendo network may also have the capacity to lease/rent out entire game bundles within a package deal so gamers could play on-line games by simply renting the equipment needed. By doing this, Nintendo looks to aim at the mass market, allowing them to have access to the service without a hefty investment upfront. In addition, the idea is a very unique one, and leasing/renting out systems in this manner (with networking in mind) is not as simple as walking down to Blockbuster Video and hassling the clerk… or is it? The truthful answer is we don't know. We don't know if Nintendo's next system will include communication devices out of the box or if they will be separate accessories… And with that in mind there's no telling how lease/rental schemes can be arranged. We'll just have to wait for more information regarding this issue since digging up dirt did very little to increase our comprehension.
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Analysis: The first noticeable difference between these two trademark files is that Game Boy Advance's says, "adaptors" rather then "adaptor" as seen on Star Cube's information. This could be a typo, or it may mean that Star Cube features one expansion port which through all the devices listed would connect through ala the bottom port as seen on N64, and that Game Boy Advance has multiple expansion ports. The other most notable features is that Star Cube's listings are based largely on things you would find on home consoles, and Game Boy Advance’s are more based on what you would find on a portable system. An example being that Game Boy Advance’s states telecommunications, PCS, cellular, wireless, as its forms of networking and internet access, while Star Cube includes things such as digital and analogue cable. It should be noted that most of these devices will probably never see the light of day, they are just examples of the possibilities that these adaptors could support.

Conclusion: So what does this all add up to, you ask? Easy. Anyone unable to handle the name Star Cube better learn to swallow it down because it looks like it will be a big part of Nintendo’s next generation plans. We know that Game Boy Advance is the name of the next-generation hand-held Nintendo is producing, and given that Star Cube’s set of trade and service mark registrations are surprisingly similar (one registration describes a game unit, the second describes a network and the third describes an adaptor), it would seem logical to assume that the name Star Cube refers to the other next-generation Nintendo console… Project: Dolphin. Therefore, Tendo Box is adopting an early (and speculative) position that with the information provided that Star Cube will represent what is now known as Nintendo's Project: Dolphin; Star Cube will be the moniker of Nintendo's forthcoming home console. Furthermore, where we once only had Nintendo’s word to go on about their proposed Game Boy Advance/Star Cube interconnectivity we now have proof that Nintendo is putting its plans into action, or has already done so. These trade and service marks, registered under Nintendo of America's name, are the strongest proof yet that Project: Dolphin is probably Star Cube and the console will have a network in place sometime in its lifespan.
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trutrutru said:
thats because Nintendo hasnt provided a console that was both developer friendly or on parity with its competition. If they provided a console that didnt alienate developers in ANY way, then things would be different. Especially if were to offer a shared library with a seperate handheld

so yes, nintendo has been selling worse and worse in the console department, but you have to look into why.

All things considered equal with their competition, and we could see some solid sales out of a nintendo console, especially if they treat the nx like a platform, a la ios and android.
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I agree. With Gamecube we had a system which was arguably stronger than PS2, we got amazing games like REmake and Resident Evil 4 and Metroid Prime. The "look" of the console certainly had something to do with the level of interest in the system.

For the past decade, Nintendo hasn't had a system with parity. It was off doing its own thing. I am not sure they can afford to do that again. I have read quotes that they always do something relevant to "right now". I cannot imagine that would mean being irrelevant hardware to most of the third-parties. Not again.
 
Scrawnton said:
No one said it was a new invention by Nintendo. And Sonys implementation wasn't a hybrid. It was individual games running on two separate systems. When playing a PS4 game away from home you were remotely accessing a system via the internet with obvious hits in performance.

Also no one said it wasn't done before. I was stating that the idea of a hybrid system is not difficult to understand and it won't confuse people.
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It's not a matter of confusion. It's a matter of thinking of it as a "real" hybrid. I think people understand the concept well, but adding real value to it is a different story. I don't think people will consider that a real selling point since other similar devices weren't able to get much traction from the feature. This is probably why the idea of the NX as a hybrid gets some negativity.
 
Haven't followed this thread since yesterday. Any news since then? I thought we were expecting an announcement today? Is it still happening this week? I'm so confused..
 
MuchoMalo said:
I'm not gonna believe any price rumors. I doubt that Nintendo has even finalized pricing, let alone told anyone outside of the company anything other than something vague like "it won't cost more than Wii U."
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Yeah this guy is clearly just guessing based on the speculation from the Macquarie report. I'm not sure why people are taking it as fact, or even as a rumor. I doubt he meant it as one.

That said, #Team$199
 
Scrawnton said:
No one said it was a new invention by Nintendo. And Sonys implementation wasn't a hybrid. It was individual games running on two separate systems. When playing a PS4 game away from home you were remotely accessing a system via the internet with obvious hits in performance.

Also no one said it wasn't done before. I was stating that the idea of a hybrid system is not difficult to understand and it won't confuse people.
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But kimishima said its brand new.
 
Hazu said:
Haven't followed this thread since yesterday. Any news since then? I thought we were expecting an announcement today? Is it still happening this week? I'm so confused..
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Emily Rogers and several other actual insiders have said information will be coming both this week and next. Emily has since hinted that she expects the actual reveal this week, not just an announcement of the reveal.
 
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