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[Seth C]

We got our rematch but that was some unimpressive shit in the last round... we CANNOT be that way for the US rematch

I still don't know how you can go in to the final with a loss on your record against a team that has beat you already and win the gold, but whatever, shitty tournament structure is shitty tournament structure.

Did Hamelin really push the Korean guy? I missed that replay.

Yeah, he did. In fact, he had his hand up in the armpit of the other guy, but whatever.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

The fuck happened with the hockey game!?!?

I turned it off at the 3rd period at like 15 because i thought Canada had it in the bag. Then I hear my mom yelling, I go in, and fucking Slovakia is up 3-2 and they are playing hard.

Shit, that was close.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I still don't know how you can go in to the final with a loss on your record against a team that has beat you already and win the gold, but whatever, shitty tournament structure is shitty tournament structure.

A lot of sports are like that, it's not unfair in the slightest.

If it was single elimination from the getgo, people would bitch.

 

[Kifimbo]

I still don't know how you can go in to the final with a loss on your record against a team that has beat you already and win the gold, but whatever, shitty tournament structure is shitty tournament structure.

That's called a round robin tournament. It been like that forever. And there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[DogWelder]

I still don't know how you can go in to the final with a loss on your record against a team that has beat you already and win the gold, but whatever, shitty tournament structure is shitty tournament structure.

Round-robin and then single elimination playoffs is pretty standard. Are you new to sports?

 

[X26]

I still don't know how you can go in to the final with a loss on your record against a team that has beat you already and win the gold, but whatever, shitty tournament structure is shitty tournament structure.

u mad?

 

[Seth C]

Round-robin and then single elimination playoffs is pretty standard. Are you new to sports?

They don't do it in baseball, they don't do it in American football, they don't do it in basketball. They don't do it in the NHL playoffs either. I'm not new to sports, I just dislike the ones that are shit.

I understand the concept, I just think it is shit (always).

 

[LizardKing]

ok canada, you beat us in our house for gold in hockey in 02, time to return the favor sunday. (hopefully)

 

[ScrabbleDude]

Super Sunday 2 is going to be awesome.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

They don't do it in baseball, they don't do it in American football, they don't do it in basketball. They don't do it in the NHL playoffs either. I'm not new to sports, I just dislike the ones that are shit.

I understand the concept, I just think it is shit (always).

You're too American tinted, what about the World Cup???

 

[Kifimbo]

They don't do it in baseball, they don't do it in American football, they don't do it in basketball. They don't do it in the NHL playoffs either. I'm not new to sports, I just dislike the ones that are shit.

I understand the concept, I just think it is shit (always).

You're wrong about basketball.

After group A teams all meet each other in round robin play, the top four teams will proceed to the quarterfinals, where they will each face a team from group B. Once they advance to the semifinals and beyond, teams from within group A may have a chance to square off again.

http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/basketball/n214463797.shtml


And you're wrong about baseball.

The tournament consisted of a round-robin, in which teams played each of the other teams, followed by semifinals and finals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_at_the_Summer_Olympics


And football ? It would be the same thing is there was an Olympic tournament.

 

[Medalion]

i wanna call in sick for sunday just so i can catch this game cuz i'll be working then

 

[Montresor]

The NHL has a god-damn 82-game round robin.

 

[Brinbe]

They don't do it in baseball, they don't do it in American football, they don't do it in basketball. They don't do it in the NHL playoffs either. I'm not new to sports, I just dislike the ones that are shit.

I understand the concept, I just think it is shit (always).

What? Not sure if serious or not, but funny coming from someone with John Wall in their avy. :lol

March Madness being what it is, of course.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

You're wrong about basketball.



http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/basketball/n214463797.shtml


And you're worng about baseball.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_at_the_Summer_Olympics

He's soley talking about American leagues and conveniently so.

 

[Chumly]

You're wrong about basketball.



http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/basketball/n214463797.shtml


And you're worng about baseball.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_at_the_Summer_Olympics


And football ? It would be the same thing is there was an Olympic tournament.

Actually hes right but just not talking about what you are.

 

[Seth C]

You're wrong about basketball.



http://en.beijing2008.cn/news/sports/headlines/basketball/n214463797.shtml


And you're worng about baseball.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball_at_the_Summer_Olympics


And football ? It would be the same thing is there was an Olympic tournament.

And once again I am terribly sorry that international sports can't figure out how to organize a tournament.

He's soley talking about American leagues and conveniently so.

Given that the US created both basketball and baseball, I do believe it fair that we get to decide the dominant structure for tournaments, no?

 

[Maximus.]

GO CANADA GO! Wow that was an intense 3rd period for Canada. 10 gold medals! We should be able to possibly pass 24 medals this Olympics. Too bad our women curling team didnt get gold, but they tried. Charles Hamelin got 2 golds! So proud

 

[Kifimbo]

He's soley talking about American leagues and conveniently so.

Apples and oranges then.

Stanley Cup playoffs in hockey are exactly like MLB or NFL or NBA.

 

[Mgoblue201]

They don't do it in baseball, they don't do it in American football, they don't do it in basketball. They don't do it in the NHL playoffs either. I'm not new to sports, I just dislike the ones that are shit.

I understand the concept, I just think it is shit (always).

Those events have four or five month regular seasons and two month long playoffs. When you need to establish seeding quickly, then this is a good way to do it. They do the same thing for other short tournaments in the sports you listed.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

And once again I am terribly sorry that international sports can't figure out how to organize a tournament.

Because they don't suit your agenda???

What if the roles were reversed, would you be as upset about it and show it???

 

[expy]

wtf did that Korean guy just do on the podium?!

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Round robin tournaments are fine. It gives you a chance to recover from a single bad game whereas a fluke can topple you in single elimination. For something like the Olympics, it's better because we're sure that whoever wins Gold sure as heck earned it.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Given that the US created both basketball and baseball, I do believe it fair that we get to decide the dominant structure for tournaments, no?

Yes, for leagues in America.

 

[Seth C]

Because they don't suit your agenda???

What if the roles were reversed, would you be as upset about it and show it???

Eh? I wouldn't have been bothered at all if the US hockey team finished dead last in the Olympics, if that is what you are asking. My favorite sport of all is college basketball, and the feature event is a 64 team single elimination tournament. Win 6 in a row or go home, and it is fantastic.

 

[sumo390]

I'm impressed we have 34 medals in the Winter Olympics so far, already beat '06 and tied with '02. Nice.

 

[criesofthepast]

Ohno said he thinks the judging was fixed to put two canadians on the podium in the 500m.

he mad

 

[expy]

Given that the US a Canadian created both basketball and baseball, I do believe it fair that we get to decide the dominant structure for tournaments, no?

.

 

[kingkitty]

I'm quite pleased with the way America has been performing. We're eventually going to get the medals in history, which is pretty decent considering we've never led in gold count or medal count in the Winter Olympics.

 

[Darth Sonik]

For all those cranks who want a points system based on total medals.

Here goes.

GOLD = 1000 points
SILVER = 10 points
BRONZE = 1 point

More than fair to all medalists, but to be fair to all athletes competing, here is another system.

GOLD = 1000 points
SILVER = 10 points
BRONZE = 9 points
4th = 8
5th = 7
6th = 6
7th = 5
8th = 4
9th = 3
10th = 2
Rest = 1

Have fun using them.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Eh? I wouldn't have been bothered at all if the US hockey team finished dead last in the Olympics, if that is what you are asking. My favorite sport of all is college basketball, and the feature event is a 64 team single elimination tournament. Win 6 in a row or go home, and it is fantastic.

It's fantastic to some but many hate the one and done scenario.

I mean, it's arguable that the best team doesn't win the NCAA tournament because they could have one bad game and they are out.

Personally, I like it but I don't dislike this Olympic tournament setting.

 

[DrFunk]

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yeah, that's quite debatable

 

[criesofthepast]

Jean is so pimp with his amazing dreads.

 

[Doytch]

Ohno said he thinks the judging was fixed to put two canadians on the podium in the 500m.

he mad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKQMOfbEGs8

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Ohno said he thinks the judging was fixed to put two canadians on the podium in the 500m.

he mad

I hope you are joking that he said that.

Dude was lucky to get any medals this Olympics.

His silver wasn't his doing and he barely EARNED his bronze.

 

[DrFunk]

Ohno said he thinks the judging was fixed to put two canadians on the podium in the 500m.

he mad

rofl, I can't wait to see you in 4 years when Russia cheats the shit out the 2014 games

 

[Chumly]

I hope you are joking that he said that.

Dude was lucky to get any medals this Olympics.

His silver wasn't his doing and he barely EARNED his bronze.

You mean the pathetic push by Hamelin made him get bronze???

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Ohno said he thinks the judging was fixed to put two canadians on the podium in the 500m.

he mad

No, he said it was a factor in the decision to DQ him that the judge was Canadian, and I fully agree. Hamelin pushed the Korean and there was no DQ for him. If they are going to take Ohno out of it, they need to do the same to their guy. It was definitely a biased decision. Arguing that it was a fair call is asinine.

 

[criesofthepast]

I hope you are joking that he said that.

Dude was lucky to get any medals this Olympics.

His silver wasn't his doing and he barely EARNED his bronze.

Just heard it on tv now. Rod Black on sportsnet just said that's what he said.

Ohno isn't happy.

 

[Doytch]

No, he said it was a factor in the decision to DQ him that the judge was Canadian, and I fully agree. Hamelin pushed the Korean and there was no DQ for him. If they are going to take Ohno out of it, they need to do the same to their guy. It was definitely a biased decision. Arguing that it was a fair call is asinine.

Watch it again. I was the first person in this thread to say Hamelin might get DQ'd, but you see the Korean grab Hamelin's skate first, and then Hamelin touches him (to steady himself? dunno.)

 

[Pandaman]

Given that the US created both basketball and baseball, I do believe it fair that we get to decide the dominant structure for tournaments, no?

Canadian working in america who became american 3 years later through marriage IIRC.

 

[AlphaTwo00]

I hope you are joking that he said that.

Dude was lucky to get any medals this Olympics.

His silver wasn't his doing and he barely EARNED his bronze.

Nope. SportsNet just mentioned that too...

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Just heard it on tv now. Rod Black on sportsnet just said that's what he said.

Ohno isn't happy.

Any fan of the sport shouldn't be happy. It was a clear case of favoritism.

Edit:

Ohno is probably more pissed now that he's seen better replays. I would be too.

 

[expy]

Watch it again. I was the first person in this thread to say Hamelin might get DQ'd, but you see the Korean grab Hamelin's skate first, and then Hamelin touches him (to steady himself? dunno.)

That's what I saw, Hamelin was just trying to stay balanced and prevent himself from tumbling due to the Korean skater's fall.

 

[talisayNon]

I don't know how I feel for Gold/Silver/Bronze argument. I like total medal count to be honest, but I understand that bronze in Speed Skating doesn't mean shit. On the other hand, if we ever won Bronze in Biathalon that'd be worth 3 golds to me.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I'm American but not a stupid blowhard nationalist.

I thought Ohno was the best skater of them all coming into these Olympics and some of his qualifying runs showed how skilled he is but when it counts the most, he's not the best.

"Most decorated Winter Game Olympian" my ass, Bonnie Blair and Eric Heiden won several golds.

I'd rather be them.

 

[Seth C]

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Basketball was created by a Canadian...in the US. He died in the US, as a US citizen. Nevermind that, I only said it originated in the US. Never mentioned where the creator was born. Baseball is far trickier to pin to one person, but the game played today seems to have originated in New York or New Jersey.

 

[criesofthepast]

Any fan of the sport shouldn't be happy. It was a clear case of favoritism.

Edit:

Ohno is probably more pissed now that he's seen better replays. I would be too.

Whatever his exact wording was; he believes the judging was biased in favor of Canada. That's all. So, like i said...he mad.

And I'm not a fan of the sport. It's a joke. It's entertaining as fuck but we've seen a bunch of unfair endings and dirty behaviour. Just glad for once Canada doesn't get the short end of the stick. I'll take it.

I at first thought Hamelin was going to get DQd too.

 

[maharg]

Anyone who wants to argue about medal counts should really probably read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_medal_table

In particular, I like this quote:

I believe each country will highlight what suits it best. One country will say, 'Gold medals.' The other country will say, 'The total tally counts.' We take no position on that.

Good enough for me.

 

[AlphaTwo00]

Doesn't the judge have to consult with other officials before the decision? Or is it really just one guy with the final call?