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The Official "Absolute Justice" Smallville Movie Thread

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Kevin

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Season: 9
Episode: 11-12
Title: Absolute Justice
Airdate: Friday February 5th, 8PM (Eastern Time)

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I was asked by several people in the Official Smallville Season Nine Thread to create a separate thread for Geoff John's upcoming Smallville movie. So here is some content to get comic book fans excited for Friday's two hour event.

Who: Geoff John's has written the two hour Smallville movie which will introduce many of the DC characters from the Justice Society of America. While there will be three main characters (Hawkman, Doctor Fate and Star Girl) there will also be a number of other characters that will play a role in some form or another and of course there will be a villain for this event.

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About: Here is the official press release on this episode. Please highlight for spoilers:

DC COMICS' CHARACTERS HAWKMAN, STAR GIRL AND DR. FATE FROM THE JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA MEET UP WITH CLARK AND HIS TEAM IN A SPECIAL TWO-HOUR EVENT; PAM GRIER GUEST STARS — A man named Sylvester Pemberton tracks down Chloe (Allison Mack) and tells her he knows about her team of superheroes and needs their help. However, before he can explain who he is, he is attacked and killed by Icicle (guest star Wesley Macinnes). Clark (Tom Welling) and Chloe's (Allison Mack) investigation leads Clark to the former headquarters of the Justice Society of America where he meets up with Nelson AKA Dr. Fate (guest star Brent Stait), Carter Hall AKA Hawkman (guest star Michael Shanks) and Courtney AKA Star Girl (guest star Britt Irvin). Courtney pleads with Hawkman and Dr. Fate to help her catch the killer that is targeting their group but they are reluctant to resume their duties as superheroes. Clark, John Jones (guest star Phil Morris), Green Arrow (Justin Hartley) and Chloe team up to help the JSA stop Icicle before he murders another member of the group. Meanwhile, Lois (Erica Durance) receives a package from a mysterious agency called Checkmate, run by Amanda Waller (guest star Pam Grier). Posted on KryptonSite. Geoff Johns wrote the two-hour episode. Glen Winters directed the first hour (#3X5262) and Tom Welling directed the second hour (#3X5263).

Videos:

Trailer 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzLhOLlG8Pw
Trailer 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANRAdsnTnlY

Clip 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6-VZ5DNjSM
Clip 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVGQglVxgUY
Clip 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX6qOGAPNRQ

Interviews:

Geoff Johns (Audio Interview):
http://www.comicgeekspeak.com/episodes/comic_geek_speak-1001.php

Michael Shanks (Hawkman) (Audio Interview, Four Parts):
http://scifitvzone.com/2010/01/31/s...s-audio-interview-on-absolute-justice-part-1/

Geoff Johns KryptonSite interview:
http://www.kryptonsite.com/geoff-johns-absolute-justice.htm

Brent Stait (Doctor Fate) interview:
http://devotedfansnetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16197

Michael Shanks (Hawkman) interview:
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/Shanks-Hawkman-Smallville-JSA-100203.html

Smallville Producers interview:
http://www.newsarama.com/tv/Smallville-Producer-JSA-100202.html

There is a lot of content here to dig through for those really interested. Absolute Justice sounds like it's going to be an amazing event and really the entire season has been fantastic this year so far and the spoilers we are getting for the second half of the season sounds even more amazing. Hope everyone here enjoys Absolute Justice and of course I am curious to hear everyone's opinions after watching it. :D
 

Medalion

Banned
2 Hr movie on Smallville about any other superhero character than Superman himself... whatever, I'll still end up watching it, but... this is getting ridiculous. And I did love the Legion episode but c'mon.
 

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
Man, that pic shows exactly why live-action superheroes are a bad idea, they just look fucking stupid. It works in comics because of the form of the medium, artists are basically drawing idealised nude fugures and colouring them in. In live action it looks like they're covered in cheap plastic, it's so dumb.
 

Medalion

Banned
Not everybody can afford high quality products, these are heroes in their beginning stages, so the customes should look like cheap pieces of crap.
 

v0yce

Member
Jedeye Sniv said:
Man, that pic shows exactly why live-action superheroes are a bad idea, they just look fucking stupid. It works in comics because of the form of the medium, artists are basically drawing idealised nude fugures and colouring them in. In live action it looks like they're covered in cheap plastic, it's so dumb.

Agreed. I can't even imagine what a live action Ironman or Batman would look like.
 

Mithel

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Really, Clark? The best you can manage is a dirty t-shirt with a jacket? Just put on the damn costume already!
 

Jedeye Sniv

Banned
v0yce said:
Agreed. I can't even imagine what a live action Ironman or Batman would look like.

I will agree that Ironman looks pretty cool, but seriously, there's been a different Batsuit in every movie, and it took them until number 6 to get his head to move left to right. They all looked like shit, and they had to lose pretty much everything but the cape and the ears that make it a batsuit for it to work in Dark Knight. Live action can ironically never capture the feeling of movement from the comics because everyone looks so stilted in their bad costumes.

The costumes in that promo shot look cheap and plastic, it looks silly. Superheroes are silly enough by their nature (and I love them for it), it shows up way more in a low-budget live-action context.
 

MisterHero

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I'd really agree with you Jedeye Sniv but when I watched Superman I for the first time a few years ago there was one shot of Christopher Reeve (the scene where he is standing on the boat when he catches some robbers) that totally blew my mind and made me believe that he was a superhero.

Of course there has to be some quality to the suit but more than that the actor has to be believable in the role. The poster doesn't quite achieve this. With the exception of Clark they looked pulled from screen captures. They aren't posing or looking characterizing themselves any either way. The shifty writing the series has been troubled with doesn't help that either.

I like Hawkman, Fate looks like his vest is repainted from Green Arrow, his helmet looks like they have C3PO eyes, and yeah, Star Girl's plastic mask doesn't match her costume at all. Though they might look better in the final product (effects of cinematograpy). I'm interested in movie props and I can't believe how cheap some appear in real life. :lol

Hopefully the writing can be decent, I don't know if action/effects will be a big help.

Well actually I agree with you almost completely, I just want to be positive for Smallville for once. :(
 
SimleuqiR said:
Anyone have a bigger version of this pic?

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Google search "smallville cutout". Never mind, I'll do it:

http://www.smallvilleph.com/2009/11/crossfire-cardboard-cutout-image/

Regarding the "cheap" quality of the costumes, honestly the only one I have a problem with is Fate. The bodysuit doesn't appear to fit the actor very well, and the helmet looks several sizes too large and obviously not metal. The spray paint deco only reinforces that notion. What they should have done was give it an aged, beaten metallic look... make it actually look like something that's been around for centuries.

Courtney looks pretty much identical to the comic, and Hawkman actually translated from page to screen pretty well I think. Obviously the budget isn't there to properly animate his wings in flight, but it's television.

See more pics from "Absolute Justice" and Season 9 here:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/gallery/gallery.php?topic=smallville9
 

Kevin

Member
I know I'm a Smallville fan but I honestly think the costumes look really good for a tv budget. Much better then I was expecting even. Beyond that the writing has greatly improved. I think to many people remember the old Smallville with the Lana and Clark drama but the new Smallville is nothing like that anymore. Most of the crap drama has been cut out. It really is a great show now! :D

Geoff Johns has the right idea...


Why should someone who might not have tuned in to Smallville in a while check out Absolute Justice?

If you haven't watched Smallville in a while, you should check it out again because it's a terrific show right now, and if you're a fan of the JSA, this is the first time they've ever appeared in live action, and they did a hell of a job. The cast, and the crew, and the producers, and everybody. Honestly, I don't know what other network would have backed something like this, let it air as two hours, and create an event behind it in a series that's in Season 9. It's terrific. They believe in it, and I believe it, and I'm psyched for it. I think a lot of people are going to check it out.


Source: http://www.kryptonsite.com/geoff-johns-absolute-justice.htm
 

Ponn

Banned
Absolute faith in Geoff Johns.

That's what I have to tell myself everytime I see a clip or picture of Shanks "Hawkman" I just want to laugh at how ridiculous he looks to me in a real life Hawkman costume.

No, no, must not question.

ABSOLUTE FAITH IN GEOFF JOHNS!
 

AstroMan

Banned
You would think an Iconic superhero like superman would be treated with some respect. I'm sorry, but this looks absolutely terrible. Worse than that 1990's Fantastic Four film. Has the series always been on such a tight budget?
 

WillyFive

Member
AstroMan said:
You would think an Iconic superhero like superman would be treated with some respect. I'm sorry, but this looks absolutely terrible. Worse than that 1990's Fantastic Four film. Has the series always been on such a tight budget?

All TV shows need to perform miracles on small budgets, especially superhero ones.
 
AstroMan said:
You would think an Iconic superhero like superman would be treated with some respect. I'm sorry, but this looks absolutely terrible. Worse than that 1990's Fantastic Four film. Has the series always been on such a tight budget?

When done right, this show does it perfectly. Check out the legion episode also written by Geoff Johns.
 

gdt

Member
Was that guy's phone tagged with an American flag :lol ?

Edit: Correct me if I'm wrong, thats the original Sandman which Dream was semi-modeled after, right?
 
So far I'm really liking this. I'm really glad that we don't have to watch Ollie fight his inner demons again this week.
 
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