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The OFFICIAL Amazing Race - Season 7 Thread

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Fifty

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If he wins the amazing race, he should be nominated for a reality show lifetime achievement award. :lol
 

Celicar

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That's two close finishes in two episodes. So far a pretty damn good season. I'm disappointed to see the two girls lose. Figured those brothers would be getting laid in later episodes. Oh well.

Fuck me the chicks lost. Shit that's gotta hurt. They started off at first.

No, that was the other chicks. These chicks sucked in both episodes.
 

ShadowRed

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Celicar said:
That's two close finishes in two episodes. So far a pretty damn good season. I'm disappointed to see the two girls lose. Figured those brothers would be getting laid in later episodes. Oh well.



No, that was the other chicks. These chicks sucked in both episodes.



Oh really my bad then.

Also those gay guy cracked me up when they got ran out of the market and they called them bitches.
 

Memles

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Disappointed to see them go, if simply because we could have had another TAR love affair. It's funny that the two teams with sexual tension end up in a race to the pit stop, and it made for some good TV.

I must say that I'm a fan of the Roadblock Plane Tickets idea. While it did kind of eliminate any airport strategy in this leg, it ended up meaning that performance on a task directly related to either jumping ahead or being set back. Sometimes, especially in the task that is in the first half of the episode, Roadblocks or Detours don't matter, so this is a good little thing to throw into a few legs here or there, especially in the early going.

Looks like Rob holds a grudge (Next Week). Hype.
 

Mugen

Banned
I'm not sold on Amber and Rob yet but yes, everything that happened in the race so far has been beneficial to the team. But we'll see what they're really made off when everything isn't going as they hoped and their luck runs out on them.

I dunno who I'm pulling for yet but other than Rob and Amber, Debbie and Bianca can really race.
 

ShadowRed

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Memles said:
Disappointed to see them go, if simply because we could have had another TAR love affair. It's funny that the two teams with sexual tension end up in a race to the pit stop, and it made for some good TV.

I must say that I'm a fan of the Roadblock Plane Tickets idea. While it did kind of eliminate any airport strategy in this leg, it ended up meaning that performance on a task directly related to either jumping ahead or being set back. Sometimes, especially in the task that is in the first half of the episode, Roadblocks or Detours don't matter, so this is a good little thing to throw into a few legs here or there, especially in the early going.

Looks like Rob holds a grudge (Next Week). Hype.



Agreed they need to tie together speed of finishing tests and travel. It sucks when a team finishes a test ahead of everyone else only to have everyone catch right up to them because the plane doesn't leave at the right time, or the place they have to do something at is closed.
 

Celicar

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ShadowRed said:
Agreed they need to tie together speed of finishing tests and travel. It sucks when a team finishes a test ahead of everyone else only to have everyone catch right up to them because the plane doesn't leave at the right time, or the place they have to do something at is closed.


Does it suck? It's deliberately planned like that. What if a team did the card where they could skip the rest of the leg of the race and go straight to the finish and they ended up with a pretty good lead and were able to keep it for the rest of the season. That wouldn't be too interesting, would it?
 

ShadowRed

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Celicar said:
Does it suck? It's deliberately planned like that. What if a team did the card where they could skip the rest of the leg of the race and go straight to the finish and they ended up with a pretty good lead and were able to keep it for the rest of the season. That wouldn't be too interesting, would it?




Who's to say that that team, you discribed, doesn't fuck up royally and end up losing? If you have a problem with the fast forward then get rid of it not create some BS bottle necks that screw over those that are good at an event and allow sorry people to stay close.
 

Memles

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ShadowRed said:
Who's to say that that team, you discribed, doesn't fuck up royally and end up losing? If you have a problem with the fast forward then get rid of it not create some BS bottle necks that screw over those that are good at an event and allow sorry people to stay close.

We've had this argument before. Shadow, you also despise the concept of Non-Elimination Rounds, and clearly want this to be a race where it's one long race, pretty much, with no handouts and no breaks for the weak.

There are logistical problems.

1. Phil

Phil is a problem. See, he too has to "race" to the next pit stop ahead of the other teams. But, there, he also has to film the various shots for the tasks ahead of time. So, he has to be there ahead of all of the teams.

He also has to be there FOR all of the teams. If there was huge distances between then, say 13 hours, it would be very tough for Phil to stick around for those extra few hours even after the other teams have left and still catch up with them. He has to be ahead of the teams, and to simply let them race at will would do little but destroy his ability to do so.

2. Tension

We've seen two tights finishes early on, but those would never continue without bunching. They will be so spread apart that the chances of catching two teams in the same camera shot will become close to nil. It would be a logistical nightmare.

It may be great in theory, to just let them race at will, but it would make for damn boring television.
 

Mugen

Banned
First Season didn't have as much bunching as any Amazing Race season and I thought that season while preety good was one of the weakeast of all the seasons.
 

ShadowRed

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Memles said:
We've had this argument before. Shadow, you also despise the concept of Non-Elimination Rounds, and clearly want this to be a race where it's one long race, pretty much, with no handouts and no breaks for the weak.


No you must have me mistaken for someone else. I never said I was against non elimination rounds. I did say that I think that the non elimation round shows, should be awarded to those teams that win the most legs or have won a leg over a team that has not. So for instance say a team that wins a race later on in the race screws up and comes in last. They should be awarded a non elimination, versus a team that has struggled to make the end of every race and then finally loses, only to be saved by a random non elimination.



Memles said:
There are logistical problems.

1. Phil

Phil is a problem. See, he too has to "race" to the next pit stop ahead of the other teams. But, there, he also has to film the various shots for the tasks ahead of time. So, he has to be there ahead of all of the teams.

He also has to be there FOR all of the teams. If there was huge distances between then, say 13 hours, it would be very tough for Phil to stick around for those extra few hours even after the other teams have left and still catch up with them. He has to be ahead of the teams, and to simply let them race at will would do little but destroy his ability to do so.




Huh WTF, Phil isn't carrying the cameras. When the race begins he's probably already in route to if nt already at the next pitstop.



Memles said:
2. Tension

We've seen two tights finishes early on, but those would never continue without bunching. They will be so spread apart that the chances of catching two teams in the same camera shot will become close to nil. It would be a logistical nightmare.

It may be great in theory, to just let them race at will, but it would make for damn boring television.




Who's to say they would be spread these great distances apart? You don't what would happen? They still have tasks to complete. A team that is say an hour behind could take over the lead, because the team ahead of them can't do their task or is slow at it. It's not like they are just running from point a to b. There are things that depending on the skill of the players will slow them down and allow for other players who may be good to catch up.
 

Memles

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ShadowRed said:
No you must have me mistaken for someone else. I never said I was against non elimination rounds. I did say that I think that the non elimation round shows, should be awarded to those teams that win the most legs or have won a leg over a team that has not. So for instance say a team that wins a race later on in the race screws up and comes in last. They should be awarded a non elimination, versus a team that has struggled to make the end of every race and then finally loses, only to be saved by a random non elimination.

You are against the current principle of Non-Elim rounds, which is meant to keep things more interesting and ALLOW for the space hopping you mention later.

Huh WTF, Phil isn't carrying the cameras. When the race begins he's probably already in route to if nt already at the next pitstop.

But, if they were long distances between them, he would have to stay in one place longer, and get to the other one faster. Phil is also responsible for doing the After-Leg interviews, so he has to stick around and do those.

Who's to say they would be spread these great distances apart? You don't what would happen? They still have tasks to complete. A team that is say an hour behind could take over the lead, because the team ahead of them can't do their task or is slow at it. It's not like they are just running from point a to b. There are things that depending on the skill of the players will slow them down and allow for other players who may be good to catch up.

I'm not saying that they'd always be spread out, but reality TV has to be structured and can't be so unpredictable. They need to be able to plan ahead of time to make sure that aspects of the race fall at the right time for operating hours, plane flights, etc. They can't have them be all over the place. Reality TV is really fairly constrained, and I don't think they'd ever leave it up to chance. I'm not saying that they would always have the problem, but the threat of that problem is too great.
 

Manics

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Been so busy at work I haven't had time to comment on the last episode.

So those brothers must have been heartbroken when they eliminated the 2 blondes. They put all that work in getting to know them and they KNEW that a 12 layover would eventually lead to hard core sex with those 2. They elminated their own sexual outlet...those tears the brothers were crying was for lost sex.

Rob (and Amber), this guy is awesome. I didn't watch the Survivor that he was on all the way through, but he's playing this game fantasticly! I love how he's constantly bribing/lying to get even the slightest edge on other teams. That bus-driver bribe was hilarious -- I mean how much time did they save there 1 minute? It was just the fact that he pissed off the other teams that made it funny. They also seem to have the most common sense of the teams (i.e. loading all 180 books at once)....wonder how far ahead they were of team #2. Great leg they ran last show.

The low-on-money teams picking the shopping challenge. Are they stupid? You're already low on money, having to struggle to pay for the damn funicular ride, why the hell do you choose a challenge where you have to BUY STUFF? They deserve to be eliminated for stupid moves like that.

:lol
 

Manics

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Lest we forget, Amazing Race episode 3 is on tonight. Let us see whether Rob and Amber can run another amazing leg and finish hours ahead of the pack.
 

ShadowRed

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:lol @ Rob He needs to change his name to Lex Luthor, because he's a fucking evil genius. Those other teams are fucking idiots. You're telling me they could eat 4 pounds of meet in 4 hours. What a bunch of dumb ass' for letting Rob...uhm Lex, talk them into quiting.




LOL damn they almost came back.
 
I wonder if that was the toughest eating challenge so far. The only time I remember people struggling that bad was last season when they had to eat that hot chili.
 

Manics

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What was up with the gay team not getting a prize for finishing in first place? Usually you get a trip or (this season anyway) MONEY. They come in and start doing a reenactment of their rowing suprecemecy over Rob&Amber and Phil seemed a bit taken aback. His face said "I know these guys are gay, but....geeeeez"

Rob - what can be said about this guy....absolute brilliance. Even if he didn't convince any other team to quit he still wouldn't have been eliminated cause the last 2 teams left eating came in the last positions. At worst they would have finished 3rd last. He actually helped out the other teams that quit since they didn't have to get sick from eating too much, and they weren't eliminated. I feel for the chick...she actually ate the 4 lbs and still got the boot. Hell she couldn't have been more than 90lbs to start :lol

Another Rob point from the beginning of the show. I love how they casually wake up from their nap in the hotel and immediately steal a cab. "They're paying you $4? Fuck it i'll give you $10 let's go!" LMAO.

Also, who knew so many people knew Spanish??
 

Bigfoot

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I love how Rob is playing this game, but I do get the feeling that they may end up having money problems the way he spends it. The stealing of the cab was funny, but not necessary, although I'm sure the chicks that got eliminated were a little surprised when the watched last nights episode and saw what Rob did.
 

Memles

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Okay...Rob is right. He has no idea how he does it sometimes.

By convincing Ray and Deana to quit, he guaranteed himself not to be eliminated, as well as making sure that he did not have to eat the food. Now, he won't have to be throwing up for the entire pit stop and is generally in much better shape than the people ahead of him.

In the end, it was a smart move for the teams to quit because of the task at hand...but this was a crappy ass Roadblock. I hate eating challenges in the first place, but this one was just evil. It was a bullshit, "How the hell can that be done quickly" challenge that only Uchenna was really able to knock down (Chip style).

Once again, a team who has performed fine in challenges and in airports goes ahead and makes an incredibly dumb mistake. Like, did they not even LOOK at the map? Or was that not on their list of things to do?
 
Memles said:
Okay...Rob is right. He has no idea how he does it sometimes.

By convincing Ray and Deana to quit, he guaranteed himself not to be eliminated, as well as making sure that he did not have to eat the food. Now, he won't have to be throwing up for the entire pit stop and is generally in much better shape than the people ahead of him.

In the end, it was a smart move for the teams to quit because of the task at hand...but this was a crappy ass Roadblock. I hate eating challenges in the first place, but this one was just evil. It was a bullshit, "How the hell can that be done quickly" challenge that only Uchenna was really able to knock down (Chip style).

Once again, a team who has performed fine in challenges and in airports goes ahead and makes an incredibly dumb mistake. Like, did they not even LOOK at the map? Or was that not on their list of things to do?


They were the one team to ask directions at the hotel and they got the most lost haha
 
I don't watch Survivor so I didn't come into this season with any pre-conceptions on Rob and Amber. I've got to hand it to the guy, he's really controlling the race so far. He seems to have all the angles figured out and he's able to get others to do what he wants. It's really uncanny. From what I've heard, he basically did the same thing when they won Survivor. It'll be intresting to see if The Amazong Race producers change the rules some for future races to prevent racers from skipping challenges in the future. Rob just opened up a whole new strategy.
 
Farewell, ambiguous girlfriend team. I guess we'll never resolve the 'are they or aren't they' debate. Elimination was kinda inevitible after driving two freakin' hours out of the way... that's pretty bad driving. (Kudos for attempting a comeback, though!) I was sure that this was going to be a non-elimination swerve, at the end.... they had that plinky piano music going during the host's talk, so I was sure he was going to say 'BUT....' Oh well.

Rob's gambit at the eating challenge was amazing. I'm in awe. :lol

Also, I liked how the brothers team introduced themselves before opening the first clue, complete with fake crowd cheering sound effects... :lol Doing the bike challenge was kinda dumb, though. I like that team, but they make way too many mistakes to be real contenders. They won't win, but they'll be entertaining.
 

Bigfoot

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Chesapeake Silt said:
Doing the bike challenge was kinda dumb, though.
I would call it more unlucky than dumb. If they didn't get a flat, they would have finished ahead of the team that started rafting at the same time.
 

Memles

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Porthos said:
I would call it more unlucky than dumb. If they didn't get a flat, they would have finished ahead of the team that started rafting at the same time.

It was both, in retrospect. Had it been me, depending on how tired I was and how comfy the bike seats were, I would have done the bikes, but looking back the rafting simply made more sense if you had any experience in using a paddle. 7 miles is a long way to bike, although I've done that much biking in the past.
 

Memles

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Okay...

So Rob and Amber got damn lucky, and pulled off a bit of a coup, here. They are in this thing to win.

Also of note has to be the fact that this was an episode without a single instance of bunching, in the end. The teams split similarly to where they began the leg, and there was no real problems involved. It was a very entertaining leg, too.

Considering that they were counting the times of the Gaucho run, I have to wonder whether or not they were keeping track of those or something. Perhaps a math-related challenge in a future challenge? Seems like something to remember, if you ask me.

And...HOLY CRAP. First off, we're getting a two hour episode next week. Not sure if this means two legs or not, but I'll spoiler my speculation.

First off, looks to be the most injury-ridden episode in history. Gretchen with close to a Michaels blade face off blood (If she says "Ohhhh" like she constipated one more time I'll shoot to kill), and what appears to be some sort of car accident for Brian and Greg. If there are two legs occuring in the two hours, then the first will be non-elimination. It seems like it should fit into the current placement in the Race, so I think it makes sense at this point. I know that, in past seasons, they have done two-hour specials, but usually with the first leg being non-elim. We'll see, I guess.
 
yeah wtf the next episode looks nuts. the brothers get in a car crash, and the old lady cuts her head open. why is it 2 hours though?
 

Manics

Banned
I thought I was the only person who was irritated by the old lady crying out "ohhhhhhhhh" all the time....that post Memles made me laugh.

Last night's show was cool...although I now have a great dislike for Ray who kept putting down the older couple like they didn't deserve to be alive. Geez he should take a pill and relax instead of the constant put downs of "a 70 year old will never beat me!"..."they're 2 decades older than they should be!" I hope he gets eliminated next -- he's passed the POW in bug factor for me.

I'm SO GLAD the mother/son team got the boot. Them and their constant mother-son drama was starting to get to me. It was reminding me of Norman Bates complaining to his mother. "Mother, if you don't be quiet I can't finish this challenge!!"

What can be said about Rob and Amber? Another amazing leg, first team to get 2 first place finishes this season AND they got 2 trips now (I still can't figure out why Team Gay was shut out from a trip last week) I loved the change in mood on the plane after Rob&Amber stepped on board...then they got their luggage first cause they were the last ones on board...hilarious.


Next week's highlites look really good. Can't wait for that 2 hour episode. Blood and crashes, it could be intense...
 

ElyrionX

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Rob and Amber are just amazing. I like how observant Rob was on that train ride when the gays decided to head to the front to get a headstart. That was crucial since it left the other teams struggling to find the dock on their own.
 

lexbubble

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Manics said:
I'm SO GLAD the mother/son team got the boot. Them and their constant mother-son drama was starting to get to me. It was reminding me of Norman Bates complaining to his mother. "Mother, if you don't be quiet I can't finish this challenge!!"

What can be said about Rob and Amber? Another amazing leg, first team to get 2 first place finishes this season AND they got 2 trips now (I still can't figure out why Team Gay was shut out from a trip last week) I loved the change in mood on the plane after Rob&Amber stepped on board...then they got their luggage first cause they were the last ones on board...hilarious.


Next week's highlites look really good. Can't wait for that 2 hour episode. Blood and crashes, it could be intense...

I think that the prizes are predetermined prior to the start of the race - that would make the most sense since its a game show and i am sure they have to get approval, clear all legal issues. so unfortunately for them it was just the luck of the draw. there have been non prize rounds in the past and will be more in the future i am sure. i also read at some point that debbie and bianca said there were fewer prize legs because the prizes were bigger (ie. 10 grand for both versus a little camera for example)

can't wait for tonights episode!!!

I hope we get to say bye bye to Ray and Deana and I hope that Meredith and Gretchen survive.
 
Man, I really feel bad for Meredith and Gretchen, to survive everything they went through with this leg, bruised and bloodied, and still
come in dead last.
BUT
it's a non-elimination leg, so they're safe for now.

Can't wait to see what goes down in hour 2.

EDIT: Holy f*ck, they
took away everything but their clothes and passports as penalty for coming in last.
That's just... sadistic. Boooooooo! Boo I say!
 

Memles

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I am NOT a fan of this new non-elimination punishment. It's bullshit...in principle. Because it's Meredith and Gretchen, I have no problems. It's not even like they are going to be faster without the bags, or anything. This is just adding insult to injury.
 

Mugen

Banned
Rob might be preety good racer but judging from seeing his team so far, it's evident that Amber is USELESS just like the Survivor they were in and is just hanging on Rob's ballsack the whole time.

And Rob and Amber have been really lucky, and now they are on my hate list. And so is the Mean fucker that didn't gave money to the old couple. Just fucked up people IMO. And I'm officially going for Brothers this time (given they don't get eliminated) and POW team. I like the old couple also but they too damn slow.
 
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS!!! :D :D :D


So f*cking close, but the brothers won the footrace! Ray and Deana are going home!!!
 

ShadowRed

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HELL FUCKING YEAH!!!! RAY IS FUCKING GONE. OUT BEFORE THE OLD PEOPLE. LIFE IS GREAT.


Rob has finally goten on my last nerve. Initally I thought he was BSing with the atitude but now I see he really is a fucking dick. He's topped my need to go list above the POW guy.
 

Memles

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Okay...I'll chime in on a few issues here, but there's a lot of stuff to cover and I'll have a tough time choosing.

- The new stipulation? UBER LAME. It has proven that it STILL doesn't cripple the team who finishes in last in a non-elimination, so it's just basically going to make it uncomfortable for them when sleeping or camping out. Adversely, it means a lot less stuff to carry around. It gives them no proper storage, sadly, and they have no jackets or anything of that nature, but it just seems like a worthless stipulation. It seems pointless and just more harsh for the sake of being more harsh, not because it changes the game in any way.

- Toyota must die. Not only did they have their ad plug, there was also like 20 Toyota ads on CTV during the first hour. I get it; you make cars.

- That was a serious cut that she experienced, and I honestly felt quite bad for her, but Gretchen is a distinctly annoying individual who I would much rather see gone. I give them props for finishing in 5th, but they beat a team who rolled their car and a team who was as dysfunctional as they come.

- Speaking of dysfunctional, Ray and Deana are bottomfeeders, no matter what Ray thinks. We saw them get the fast forward and move ahead, but then we saw a slow ass performance at the Detour. They clearly have no ability to work cohesively on the same task. Kris and Jon from last season are the perfect example of a team that did as well as they did because of Detour/Roadblock performances, and Ray and Deana were the exact opposite. Very glad to see them go.

- Maybe it's just me, but by the time they flipped their car I had officially deemed Brian and Greg my favourite team left in the race. They seem genuine dudes who are enjoying themselves. Mind you, they flipped the car, but their reaction afterwards was real. When it came down to a footrace, it was awesome to see them come through in the end. They were mistake free over two legs before that moment. They struggled early on in the race, but they seem to be doing a lot better and I'm rooting for them from now on.

- Best Footrace since Season 2 finale. Enough said.

- The Crash and Rob and Amber driving by...doesn't really bother me. While I think it perhaps would have been common courtesy to roll down your window and see how things were going, they clearly saw another team was there, they were walking about and tending to someone. They simply didn't take the time to pay lip service; it's not like they literally drove by and said "haha, they crashed" or didn't notice. Looks pretty bad to the other teams, though.

- Speaking of the other teams, I think I'm behind Uchenna and Joyce and Brian and Greg right now. Lynn and Alex are too bitchy about everything; I agree with some of their problems with Rob and Amber, but I wish they'd shut up about it. Ron and Kelly...in all honesty, they're the type of team that Freddy and Kendra were last season, without the ignorance of other cultures. They are two athletic and fit people who perform generally well in the race once they get into a rhythm, and will likely ride that to the final 4. Gretchen and Meredith are kind of out of this thing right now. There are no longer any teams waiting to self-destruct, so they might be next in line.

- This, of course, leaves Rob and Amber. First off, clearly Survivor is pretty popular in South Africa. We did not see that kind of attention since they first got to Peru. I loved their helper actually coming to the mat with them. It was cute. Rob may be a bit of a jerk, but he's usually kind of right. Lynn and Alex are bitter jerks sometimes too; they're bitter about Rob being bitter about them being bitter, for god's sake. I think that Rob and Amber are not the strongest racers, as we saw in the first leg. They went for a fast forward when leaving in like 3rd, which is just a bad idea. When there was a fast forward every leg, that's a better idea. When there is only 2 in the entire race, you don't risk that. Besides, most Fast Forwards have been "One Team at a Time" tasks in the past few seasons so it was a bad strategic move. In a situation where the mechanics of the race can't be manipulated, Rob and Amber are no better than any other teams.

So...go Brian and Greg and Uchenna and Joyce. And Meredith and Gretchen beating Ray and Deana is dramatic irony as only reality TV can provide.
 

Bigfoot

Member
I hope the brothers win. I loved the fake reading of the task... "make your way home and eat all your Mom's food" (something like that).

I still like Rob and Amber, they are my second favourite team. Almost all the teams are against them, so I can understand the atitude they are taking. They could have stopped, flipped over the car, drove the guy to the hospital, and feed some orphans on the way, and all the other teams would still talk shit about them. There is no point in trying to get the other teams to like them.
 
YES! I love the brothers. Great team, really funny.

Haha, I was starting to give the gay team some respect after they stopped at the crash.... until they turned the whole incident into more fuel for their dumb fued with Rob & Amber. I guess that shows you can be concerned, helpful, and mind-bendingly petty at the same time. I liked how they brought up how much they hate Rob & Amber, while they were standing around at the wreck, with the poor bastard cameraman lying on the ground. "Hey, good luck with that spinal trauma, dude... and did you happen to notice what bitches Rob & Amber are?"

Also, the host getting pissed at Rob and Amber for not stopping was kind of funny too. He was smiling, but it was a 'I AM DISGUSTED AT YOU' smile. I think it's cool that Amber has a fanclub in Africa, though.

Anyway.... this show is so good.
 
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