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[KevinRo]

Go play a different game and shit on a different thread once in a while.

OWNED SO FUCKING HARD IN THE BUTT!!!

I think Assembly is going to be a good FFA map. I can definitely see MLG picking this up which makes me really happy because I excel at FFA's.

Orbital is just a nade fest. It's more of a 2v2 map really. I'm actually disappointed that Bungie didn't make the map more dimensional. It sucks that all the traffic is directed into two main spots; the rockets and the snipe. Did I mention grenade fest?

Sandbox default is alright. On CTF I love throwing the grav lift in-front of the base and jumping up ontop of the opposing base. Seeing the look on the opposing teams face when I grab the flag and bounce is priceless haha. Oh yeah, where is the default Crypt map? I have yet to play that...

 

[vhfive]

It definitely wasn't a glitch, but I think removing it (or impairing it, as was done) improves the map. Sanctuary's two planes were fine and dandy, the third one was annoying and cheap. vhfive, are you using the default objects first? I'm just curious how you're so close to your dollar limit, since it would seem that you've used a fraction of the geometry I have on some of my earlier iterations, and I had a cool buck fifty by the end of those. Anyways, looks sweet.

totally agree which is why i made so you can only grenade jump up there.
also i spent a lot of resources blocking off the map (try to get out i dare you). there are some places i maybe able to cut back. i'll check it out tomorrow.

in other news i started a new map. i roughed it out tonight and i'm pretty excited about it. right now i'm calling it castles in the sky. more later

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Go play a different game and shit on a different thread once in a while.

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[EazyB]

OWNED SO FUCKING HARD IN THE BUTT!!!

I think Assembly is going to be a good FFA map. I can definitely see MLG picking this up which makes me really happy because I excel at FFA's.

I'd be really interested to see what the MLG kids think about Assembly. To me it really feels like an AR map: extremely limited lines of sight on the bottom level with very little incentive to stay on the top of the level rarely ever will you be able to catch someone in the open and BR them before they find some cover and are able to escape you. That's passable in team games because you could have a teammate take the kill but I'd imagine it'd be nothing but frustrating in FFA. It plays nothing like other MLG favorites like Midship.

in other news i started a new map. i roughed it out tonight and i'm pretty excited about it. right now i'm calling it castles in the sky. more later

Well aren't you just pumping out maps
What happened to your infection map BTW?

I plan on starting my Battle Creek remake tomorrow.

Be careful what you wish for.

You couldn't possibly imagine how much we all missed you while you were banned. If you want to really piss us losers off you would get banned again.

 

[vhfive]

I'd be really interested to see what the MLG kids think about Assembly. To me it really feels like an AR map: extremely limited lines of sight on the bottom level with very little incentive to stay on the top of the level rarely ever will you be able to catch someone in the open and BR them before they find some cover and are able to escape you. That's passable in team games because you could have a teammate take the kill but I'd imagine it'd be nothing but frustrating in FFA. It plays nothing like other MLG favorites like Midship.



Well aren't you just pumping out maps
What happened to your infection map BTW?

I plan on starting my Battle Creek remake tomorrow.

i have to change a couple of things. hmmm maybe i'll do that tomorrow also (no work means lots of forge fun).

I think I'm enjoying making maps more than matchmaking at the moment

 

[Mr Vociferous]

Be careful what you wish for.

Huh? Joke post?

 

[Blueblur1]

Ok so these maps are pretty terrible.

We're gonna have to disagree.

 

[KevinRo]

I'd be really interested to see what the MLG kids think about Assembly. To me it really feels like an AR map: extremely limited lines of sight on the bottom level with very little incentive to stay on the top of the level rarely ever will you be able to catch someone in the open and BR them before they find some cover and are able to escape you. That's passable in team games because you could have a teammate take the kill but I'd imagine it'd be nothing but frustrating in FFA. It plays nothing like other MLG favorites like Midship.

Haha Barney you crack me up. Have you ever played an MLG FFA before? FFA is supposed to be fast paced and fast thinking. You rarely get that 1v1 BR duel in Midship against good people. And yes, most of the time when you shoot people across the map they get away. That's why people fought so hard for Pink2/Pink3... so they could steal everyone elses kill that was running away.This map plays nearly the same as Derelict. But of course you've never played FFA on Derelict haha.

Oh, and have you seen the MLG preview they did on Assembly? You might want to take a look(*edit* a few people playing were some decent at halo1 haha).

Link

 

[EazyB]

Haha Barney you crack me up. Have you ever played an MLG FFA before? FFA is supposed to be fast paced and fast thinking. You rarely get that 1v1 BR duel in Midship against good people. And yes, most of the time when you shoot people across the map they get away. That's why people fought so hard for Pink2/Pink3... so they could steal everyone elses kill that was running away.This map plays nearly the same as Derelict. But of course you've never played FFA on Derelict haha.

Oh, and have you seen the MLG preview they did on Assembly? You might want to take a look(*edit* a few people playing were some decent at halo1 haha).

Link

*watches video, is confused, looks like an average game, even radar*
That wasn't MLG FFA, bud.

I've never understood how someone could enjoy FFA in the first place.

And Assemble has a lot more... stuff littering it than Derelict does. I thought you had the Mythic maps?

 

[NOKYARD]

some people (poor souls without the Mythic maps) were asking for pics of the new Grifball court Burnie hired me to build

wat

'tasked'? 'contracted'? 'hired' was the only word i could think of at the time - he asked "Interested in working on an early version of the Mythic-based Grifball map?" - i said yes, he gave me a code

Will there be any kinds of hidden secrets in this new Griffball court?

it took until last week for someone to find the first Easter egg (A and B signs embedded behind the Danger sign) - if the budget allows there may be hidden treasure

 

[GhaleonEB]

Be careful what you wish for.

*wishes for juices to go play a different game and shit on a different thread*

 

[Metroidvania]

Well, Mountain is done (roughly), version 1.03 up in File Share. Link

Overview of the map

Middle.

Red base.

I couldn't interlock much of the structure due to original pieces, but I did what I could to make things as smooth as possible.

Only good for Flag/Slayer at the moment.

I'm not sure if I'll be around Saturday, but if GAF customs, or heck, anyone wants to putter through and leave some feedback for me, I'd appreciate it.

Now, onto Ascension.

 

[Kuroyume]

Griffball again? Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[xxjuicesxx]

You couldn't possibly imagine how much we all missed you while you were banned. If you want to really piss us losers off you would get banned again.

So don't you have me on ignore? Seriously stick to your fucking guns dude. You hate me apparently yet you can't live without my fuckin shit.

Lawyered!

Face it I'm the fucking shit. New maps suck. Orbital goes like ten frames per second when theres all these nades shitting up the map. Sandbox layout is absolutely shit. Finally the Mythic playlist sucks balls. I could make a playlist much better.

 

[spermatic cord]

Griffball again? Are you fucking kidding me?

people gotta practice their setups for the spring league!

 

[INTERNET]

Someone hook me up with a code so I can get started on my crypt-based remake of Sandtrap

 

[Stinkles]

Wow, is there anyone higher than a 35 in the Mythic playlist? These kids are terrible.

<35 isn't terrible, it's average. You know what's terrible? Being judgmental about something as trivial as people's ability in a video game.

 

[Stinkles]

I could make a playlist much better.

Except that one of the skills required to be a designer is to communicate ideas effectively and positively. So, you still have some work to do on that front.

 

[Striker]

I plan on starting my Battle Creek remake tomorrow.

I have ideas thought out on my inspired map for Battle Creek/Beaver Creek.

The slit-wall is perfect for CTF games, as people used the small, yet higher slit in the bases on previous maps. Still unsure what to do inside the base and for Sniper/Rockets.

 

[vhfive]

looks like its that time of the month week

 

[Deleted member 21120]

dont forget scrubs, 3am is coming up and i give free dual-SMG MLG pro lessons after 3am. and after 4am you can get the spiker/plasma rifle combo lessons. and at 5 we move onto mongoose driving MLG xXproXx lessons. party will be open, join up if ur smart

 

[Stinkles]

dont forget scrubs, 3am is coming up and i give free dual-SMG MLG pro lessons after 3am. and after 4am you can get the spiker/plasma rifle combo lessons. and after 5 we move onto mongoose driving MLG xXproXx lessons. party will be open, join up if ur smart

wat's an smg?

 

[xxjuicesxx]

Yo wassup bitches! Its school time, wanna know about Halo's canon and storyline! FUCK DAWG I KNOW ALL DAT SHIT. JOIN UP MY PARTY YO HIT ME UP AND ILL GIVE LESSONS FO FREE. I can tell you what a Halo is!

(See what I did there, you made fun of the more competitive aspect of Halo and I made fun of the whole storyline going really in depth in your incredibly lame websites)

Guys seriously its very easy to hate on someones interests. Grow the fuck up. Hate on things that can be changed in a game WE ALL ENJOY.

Like playlists. And how I should be the one making them all. I can do this from home I won't even need to come into the office.

 

[Stinkles]

Yo wassup bitches! Its school time, wanna know about Halo's canon and storyline! FUCK DAWG I KNOW ALL DAT SHIT. JOIN UP MY PARTY YO HIT ME UP AND ILL GIVE LESSONS FO FREE. I can tell you what a Halo is!

(See what I did there, you made fun of the more competitive aspect of Halo and I made fun of the whole storyline going really in depth in your incredibly lame websites)

Guys seriously its very easy to hate on someones interests. Grow the fuck up. Hate on things that can be changed in a game WE ALL ENJOY.

Like playlists. And how I should be the one making them all. I can do this from home I won't even need to come into the office.

I have to admit, I have no idea what you're trying to say, be or do. But good luck with it.

 

[backflip10019]

<35 isn't terrible, it's average. You know what's terrible? Being judgmental about something as trivial as people's ability in a video game.

:lol Play the game first and then I'll give you an accurate response.

 

[EazyB]

I have to admit, I have no idea what you're trying to say, be or do. But good luck with it.

:lol

 

[Deleted member 21120]

juices have you ever been 180-shoted to the head by an SMG pro

 

[xxjuicesxx]

I have to admit, I have no idea what you're trying to say, be or do. But good luck with it.

Yes reading comprehension, its tough, I know. You'll get it someday.

 

[Stinkles]

:lol Play the game first and then I'll give you an accurate response.

I've played the game like, 14 or 15 times. I know what I am talking about.

 

[backflip10019]

I've played the game like, 14 or 15 times. I know what I am talking about.

Holy shit, that many times? That's like 4 or 5 times more than Shishka has played. Fuck, man, you should apply for a job at Bungle.

 

[Kuroyume]

I love this thread. :lol

 

[Stinkles]

Holy shit, that many times? That's like 4 or 5 times more than Shishka has played. Fuck, man, you should apply for a job at Bungle.

:lol

 

[bj00rn_]

I have this "tradition" with my old friend to play Halo 3 MP about one time a week. Let me tell you, it's really fucking hard for "older" gamers like us to play this game against "the kids" online. They are just too good sometimes to have fun. I don't have time to enjoy my games through camping or training to do no-scopes better. Wish there was a Halo 3 ye olde gamer league - Or something :lol

 

[EazyB]

I have this "tradition" with my old friend to play Halo 3 MP about one time a week. Let me tell you, it's really fucking hard for "older" gamers like us to play this game against "the kids" online. They are just too good sometimes to have fun. I don't have time to enjoy my games through camping or training to do no-scopes better. Wish there was a Halo 3 ye olde gamer league - Or something :lol

You, Ghaleon, and Wu would make a

Spoiler

hilarious

awesome team. Lumbering about maps, forgetting the way to the other base, driving warthogs at ridiculously slow speeds.

 

[Thermite]

juices have you ever been 180-shoted to the head by an SMG pro

I've only been fortunate enough to witness this just once, triple double triple x Juices, and let me tell you, that shit takes some SERIOUS skill. It's almost too terrifyingly crazy to watch in real time. After it was over, I had to look around and make sure I still had a grip on myself due to the awesomeness I had just witnessed experienced. If any of you could ever even see a 180 shot from the SMG, let alone somehow pull it off, you'd know exactly what Halo is all about.

 

[Domino Theory]

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Halo 4 and COD6 by Bungle, btw

 

[KevinRo]

You guys have it all wrong. You think people who play the game competitively and myself(well i use to) are all sulky little bitches that have no soul and take the game serious 100% of the time. But that's not the truth.

I'll admit(backflip,tashi,juices, and some others will too) that I don't like to lose. While playing MLG or trying to get certain achievements I'll do the occasional "move dumbass" or the "wtf i shot him and the shit didn't register" or even the "wow, i'm so bad. brb i'm going to break my fucking disk" but I like to have fun while playing BTB or like playing mythic today with some of GAF. Even though I don't understand the whole AR start and the retarded Golden Grahm shit wtf? I wouldn't mind playing with you guys.

Really, ya'll(everyone) should stop acting so elitist over everyone. Maybe even get a big custom of HaloGAF together or even play a few games. Who knows you might have fun losing.

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HAHA j/k about the losing part

 

[EazyB]

I must have missed the part where someone said it was bad to be competitive.


And Golden Grahams should never be used next to the word "shit" unless one is saying "Golden Grahams are the shit" or that Golden Grahams taste like the polar opposite of shit.

 

[GhaleonEB]

You, Ghaleon, and Wu would make a

Spoiler

hilarious

awesome team. Lumbering about maps, forgetting the way to the other base, driving warthogs at ridiculously slow speeds.

I'd do the driving. I'd go fast, just in the wrong direction.

Maybe Wu could navigate. He could guide me.

 

[Eric WK]

And Golden Grahams should never be used next to the word "shit" unless one is saying "Golden Grahams are the shit" or that Golden Grahams taste like the polar opposite of shit.

Truer words, Eazy.

 

[KevinRo]

I must have missed the part where someone said it was bad to be competitive.


And Golden Grahams should never be used next to the word "shit" unless one is saying "Golden Grahams are the shit" or that Golden Grahams taste like the polar opposite of shit.

Well, I'm 100% sure when someone mentions MLG or says something about MLG you guys automatically think of the idiots that run around Matchmaking yelling ni**** and threatening to fuck everyones sister with a baseball bat. No, better yet, I'm sure you think we are all like the idiots that write in their profile with accented text and advertise 50's with hacked rec0n.

Nope, that's not us bud. They are the ones that strive to be us but can't so they take their frustration out on you.

 

[GavinGT]

juices have you ever been 180-shoted to the head by an SMG pro

What does this even mean? Doing a quick 180 to blast someone in the head for an instakill?

 

[Sibylus]

[Satire of Halo casuals/sp people]

[Explains satire needlessly]

[Cries persecution]

[Lays bait]

The latest addition has been underwhelming, to say the least. The formula has gone stale, the audience knows when every punch and twist is coming. A new creative direction is direly needed. This juices has gotten as formulaic as the nutritional information on a box of Sun-Rype.

6/10

 

[KevinRo]

What does this even mean? Doing a quick 180 to blast someone in the head for an instakill?

He's trying to make fun of amateur MLG players when they say 'get 4 shoted(is that even a word?)'. It takes a minimum of 4 shots to kill someone with a BR, usually players say it to show that they have impeccable aim. It originated from Halo1 when shooting and killing a player with 3 shots from the Pistol actually required skill.

And yes, I have been 180 shoted by an SMG in halo2. It was by a fucking elite on warlock.

 

[EazyB]

Well, I'm 100% sure when someone mentions MLG or says something about MLG you guys automatically think of the idiots that run around Matchmaking yelling ni**** and threatening to fuck everyones sister with a baseball bat. No, better yet, I'm sure you think we are all like the idiots that write in their profile with accented text and advertise 50's with hacked rec0n.

Nope, that's not us bud. They are the ones that strive to be us but can't so they take their frustration out on you.

I am confused. How has tonight's events had anything to do with MLG? If I'm not mistaken it was just Juices being a douchebag and everyone hating on him as usual.

Who is us or are you just talking about yourself and other "pros" that don't even post here?

The latest addition has been underwhelming, to say the least. The formula has gone stale, the audience knows when every punch and twist is coming. A new creative direction is direly needed. This juices has gotten as formulaic as the nutritional information on a box of Sun-Rype.

6/10

:lol

 

[KevinRo]

I am confused. How has tonight's events had anything to do with MLG? If I'm not mistaken it was just Juices being a douchebag and everyone hating on him as usual.

Who is us or are you just talking about yourself and other "pros" that don't even post here?

:lol

I see it as that you guys have a bad connotation towards MLG players. Thus souring your view of juices and instigating these little spats between juices and HaloGAF.

I'm not talking about "pros", because I'm not one. I'm actually far from being one, I've played and beaten pro's but I don't have the credentials to say I am one. I'm talking about MLG players as a whole. You can be an MLG player even if you just play the playlist, it doesn't necessarily mean you're a good MLG player.

Lets get back to discussing these maps instead?

 

[EazyB]

I see it as that you guys have a bad connotation towards MLG players. Thus souring your view of juices and instigating these little spats between juices and HaloGAF.

I'm not talking about "pros", because I'm not one. I'm actually far from being one, I've played and beaten pro's but I don't have the credentials to say I am one. I'm talking about MLG players as a whole. You can be an MLG player even if you just play the playlist, it doesn't necessarily mean you're a good MLG player.

The only thing that sours my view of Juices is his douchebaggery. I have no beef with people if they enjoy the MLG playlist most. I'm still confused as to who you're talking about if you're not talking about pros. You said:

Nope, that's not us bud. They are the ones that strive to be us but can't so they take their frustration out on you.

so I can only assume you're talking about people that play in the MLG playlist and are better than some arbitrary standard you have for real MLG players and fake ones.

Lets get back to discussing why these maps instead?

I never like to make a final judgment on a map especailly when they've only been out for so long. I mean I went on hating Guardian for almost a year before something clicked and I began enjoying it immensely (it's still miserable with AR starts though). So my feelings about Assembly have been mixed, at first I loved it, now I'm indifferent about it, and it's entirely possible that I'll change my mind tomorrow. It's just not really what I was looking for in that map, maybe once I get over that I can appreciate it for what it is.

Orbital sucks.

Default sandbox is a tad broken and not that fun in its current state but still enjoyable for multiflag.

 

[Digital Limit]

I need to learn to enjoy losing a bit more. All too often I find myself cursing my closest friends.

Then again, I partly blame Halo for its infuriating spawns. Or the Banshee on Valhalla when we don't control the Laser.

 

[Kuroyume]

It's disappointing to read so many negative impressions. Nobody seems to like Orbital. How does this latest map pack compare to the two previous ones? Legendary is so much better than Heroic.

 

[alisdair]

How does this latest map pack compare to the two previous ones?

I think Sandbox will be a good default map for 6v6, possibly even 8v8. Its forging potential is incredibly far above Foundry.

Assembly is another great small-medium 4v4 map, as good as Blackout and better than Guardian. It's the only good small symmetrical map in the game, so it'll be great if Classic CTF ever gets added to the playlist. I expect to see it in MLG for CTF and possibly Slayer, if that's your deal.

I'm trying to find a way of saying this without sounding like a dick, but can't: Orbital is a very good noob's map. Almost all the combat is in straight corridors with boxes, or around blind corners. Team-shooting is almost unheard off. There's no opportunity for cross-fire on the map. There are about 20 hiding spots where you can wait for dudes to stroll past and backsmack them. If you like charging at someone with an AR and beating them down, you'll love it. Having said that, I think push-pull gametypes like neutral bomb or land grab might be fun, but it desperately needs BR starts because there are about 4 on the map.

Like Eazy said, it's too early for final judgement, but let's break out the maths for an initial scoreboard. Here's my Dax-style rankings of all the DLC maps.

• Foundry: 2/5 default, 5/5 Onslaught and Amplified. Default Foundry is miserable for slayer and objective. It's far too easy for one team to get both snipers, and then you're screwed. Ons and Amp are the only good fast-paced maps in the game, and my two favourites to play on.
• Rat's Nest: 4/5 in Squad Battle/BTB. Very varied combat.
• Standoff: 2/5 default, 0/5 heavies. Too open. Warthog/laser struggle gets boring. So does running out of BR ammo while standing on your rocks. Heavies makes me switch off my 360. Basically, it's not as bad as Snowbound or Epitaph, and the skybox is pretty.
• Heroic: 8/15, up to 11/15 with Forge.

• Avalanche: 4/5, 1/5 heavies. Fun in BTB, but feels too big outside of a vehicle. Invis + rockets + mancannon shenanigans never get old. Heavies at least has Scorpions going for it.
• Blackout: 4/5. I hated this at first, but I think that was because I had to suffer AR starts. With BR starts it's one of the best maps in the game. The various forged versions with elbow->S2 jumps and the camping ledges blocked off are much better than default.
• Ghost Town: 3/5. Started promising, but very disappointing in the end. One-sided objective games with stupid Bungle flag return settings are too hard to defend. Two-sided objective is unbalanced. Too many routes to run away for Team Slayer. SWAT always ends up as camping in the middle room.
• Legendary: 11/15.

• Assembly: 4/5. There's a little too much clutter on the lower level. I think this could be a lot of fun with Classic CTF or TS Pro. Promising, but so was Ghost Town.
• Orbital: 3/5. Junk for any competitive slayer gametype. Good if you don't like BRs. Should be fun for shared-objective gametypes. Might even be okay for one-sided gametypes.
• Sandbox: 4/5 default, 5/5 forge potential. Default layout is pretty good for Multi-Flag BRs, even in 4v4. I really think it'll be excellent with 6v6. And based on the first week of forged maps, there are going to be amazing things coming out soon.
• Mythic: 11/15, up to 12/15 with Forge.

Ignoring Forge capabilities (if you don't like MLG or custom games), Mythic > Legendary > Heroic. Sandbox's Forge potential makes things even better. I have confidence that the playlists will be run better than before, and we'll see more community maps in there.

There's a lot to be positive about!