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The Official Halo 3 Thread
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http://videogames.yahoo.com/news-529636Eric WK said:
Deadly Monk
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Darkpen said:
I might put that poster up later.
<-- Claire will be upset if she doesn't get a shirt
Me too : (
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BlimBlim, will you be able to put the new ad up at 9AM PST? Or do you have to snag it from Yahoo!, and then put it up?
Your site isn't blocked at my school, but Yahoo Games is. I will be on the computer until 9:50PST, but then I have to go to another class. I want to know if you will have the ad on Gamersyde before 9:50PST.
Your site isn't blocked at my school, but Yahoo Games is. I will be on the computer until 9:50PST, but then I have to go to another class. I want to know if you will have the ad on Gamersyde before 9:50PST.
Just saw the teaser ad and I must say I'm mostly impressed. The one thing that still pisses me off though is the way they've continued the trend of referring to the Master Chief as just "Master Chief"; as if in an interstellar empire of billions, he's the only person who holds that rank. Even by missing out the "the" when using his rank you put the stress of the word on "Master" making it seem like a title rather than a rank... Grr. The critic in me can't help but be annoyed by that one thing which adds a slight hint of childishness to an otherwise awesome advert.
I really think Spartan-117 or John-117 should have been used more extensively earlier on in the series.
I really think Spartan-117 or John-117 should have been used more extensively earlier on in the series.
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Sir Fragula said:
Is he a Master or a Chief... which one is he? I've always wondered how they would handle Master Chief in a Halo 3 film. Yeah, I know that hardcore fans would love all the characters bad ass moments but that isn't enough for the general audience. I think if I was writing the film, I wouldn't necessarily tell it from Master Chief's perspective. That simply doesn't work and most of the audience wouldn't be able to identify with his character.
If I were to write a Halo film I would tell the story through Captain Keyes and if you have read "Fall of Reach" you will will understand why. I think he is the best "gateway" character there is to understanding who John-117 is. I would even include Dr. Halsley in the film. Master Chief simply isn't a compelling enough character for film.
DoctorWho said:
I disagree. Might as well say John Wayne was a shitty cowboy because you couldn't identify with the characters he played.
And the Master Chief naming convention isn't really a problem for me either. From the perspective of the UNSC forces, he would only be known by rank. It's really common for military personnel to identify each other with rank alone. Corporal, Sargent, General, Private. They actually become familiar terms of endearment. One of us monikers that allow a soldier to relate.
Sir Fragula said:
I think they did it to help making "Master Chief" a name that is recognized in popular culture, like Mario or Robocop.
Which is a little strange, since it is probably his last apparition in a video game. Well, maybe not, he is probably too famous to disappear now.
urk said:
Yet we refer to Sergeant Johnson as ... Sergeant Johnson and not just Sergeant.
Master Chief Petty Officer is a very high rank in the current US Navy, so that's the only saving grace here. There wouldn't be a lot of people holding this rank. I still think it would have sounded better if the old man in the commercial would have said "the Master Chief" instead of just Master Chief.
Falagard said:
He's referred to as Sergeant from time to time, but yeah, he's not the mythological badass that the Master Chief is. He is the last remaining Spartan. The most elite, seasoned, and enigmatic warrior in the UNSC arsenal. Calling him "John" would be lame.
Geoff9920 said:I can't believe there's a teaser for a commercial.I really enjoyed it though, I like the more serious take on things.
I think this first commercial is the teaser for the whole 'believe' campaign, and that is the full spot. I think ya'll are misenterpreting teaser. I don't think this is a teaser for the full teaser commercial.
I thought the tone / severity of the commercial was spot on. I hope that marine pops up in the campaign. That would be one hell of an easter egg.
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Blimblim said:
Regardless, there are those that recognize your greatness. Enjoy the trip, Li'l Blimmy!
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Wasn't there some commercial that was supposed to air during MNF?
I added blim's ad teaster and Darkpen's write-ups to the OP (remember there's a change log at the top of the post). Not significant enough to post there, but The Wall Street Journal has an article on the financial impact of Halo 3.
And I'm sure it's old, but there's a list of stuff going on during launch on Xbox.com.
Lemme know if anything major is missing from the OP.
And I'm sure it's old, but there's a list of stuff going on during launch on Xbox.com.
Lemme know if anything major is missing from the OP.
urk said:
John would be lame. Spartan 117 would be fine though. Mostly all I'm asking for is a "the Master Chief" when someone is referring to him.
What sounds better?
"Corporal, Master Chief told us to lay down suppressing fire, not friendly fire!"
"Corporal, the Master Chief told us to lay down suppressing fire, not friendly fire!"
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urk said:
I think it is far easier to identify with John Wayne than Master Chief. First and foremost - you could see John Wayne's face. His personality in the games is bad ass, don't get me wrong, but if you were to take that same character and expect him to be a lead in a film he would fall flat.
If we put the novels into the equation it becomes a different story but even "Fall of Reach" utilized other characters to introduce us to Spartan-117 and the stories are told from several different perspectives - not just John's.
DoctorWho said:
Yeah, because they realized... oops... they paid Alex Garland $1 million dollars and he basically just copied the Halo 1's structure, dialog and characters while leaving out an iconic and important character like
Sergeant Johnson
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urk said:
Don't be ridiculous.
I'm talking about when referring to him in the 3rd person, as was done in the video.
It's really simple - use it as a form of rank, instead of as a proper name. Just say a sentence with "Sergeant" replacing "Master Chief". They should both be used the same way.
Clearly "The Master Chief, mind telling me what you're doing on that ship?" is wrong.
"Sergeant, mind telling me what you're doing on that ship?" is right.
"Good to see you, Sergeant".
Etc.
However,
"When Master Chief armed his grenade, I was on the back of a Warthog..." is wrong.
You wouldn't say: "When Sergeant armed his grenade, I was on the back of a Warthog", you'd say "the Sergeant".
"We knew Master Chief was still in the fight. It gave us hope" is wrong because you wouldn't say "We knew Sergeant was still in the fight". You'd say "the Sergeant".
Falagard said:
Plus plusity plus. That's exactly what I'm talking about. It just seems to me that the people behind the advert - as talented as they are - have resorted to the kiddish way of talking about the character by dropping "the" and making his rank out to be both his name and a title.
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