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The Official Headphone Thread 2.5: We're Making WAVs and Catching FLAC

K.Jack

Knowledge is power, guard it well
Just ordered a HAVI B3 Pro I, the curiosity finally got to me. I need to hear it to round out my sound sig preferences, plus I need my own comparison to the KC06.
 

hwateber

Member
All this praise for the Fidelio X2 has me really tempted. I probably won't bite since I just bought the X1 less than a year ago and it's still an amazing pair.

Anyboth have both? What are your impressions?
 
X2s much warmer all around, more bass, more liquid mids, less treble... Less micro detail slightly narrower soundstage.

mmm.. I've been debating selling my 7XXs and getting the X2s simply because of the ease of use with a boompro mic, but I've seen a few dye leak issues, and I'm hesitant since I had that issue with my X1s
 

terrible

Banned
I just replaced the headband cushioning on my HD650s with a headband cushion for the HD600 since I got it for dirt cheap and the parts are interchangeable. They feel brand new again, I like it!
 

llexan

Member
Wanting to get a new pair of headphones for office use, but struggling to decide between the Creative Aurvana Live, Aurvana Live 2 and the Koss DJ100. I'm look for something in the sub $100 range with a closed back (don't want to disturb anyone else while I'm jamming out). I've narrowed it down to those three but I'm open to other suggestions as well. I've been researching like crazy the past couple of days and am at the point I just want to pull the trigger on buying a pair and move on haha.

Much appreciated!
 

HiResDes

Member
Wanting to get a new pair of headphones for office use, but struggling to decide between the Creative Aurvana Live, Aurvana Live 2 and the Koss DJ100. I'm look for something in the sub $100 range with a closed back (don't want to disturb anyone else while I'm jamming out). I've narrowed it down to those three but I'm open to other suggestions as well. I've been researching like crazy the past couple of days and am at the point I just want to pull the trigger on buying a pair and move on haha.

Much appreciated!
The Creative Aurvana Live leak a bit more and don't offer as much isolation. The Koss Pro DJ 100 is much more balanced sounding, sporting less bass quantity and slightly more rolled off treble. Also the Pro DJ200 version is now available. I'd also consider the NVX XPT100's if I were you.
 

llexan

Member
The Creative Aurvana Live leak a bit more and don't offer as much isolation. The Koss Pro DJ 100 is much more balanced sounding, sporting less bass quantity and slightly more rolled off treble. Also the Pro DJ200 version is now available.

Was leaning a little more towards to DJ100s since I loved my PortaPros back in the day and looked like they had better isolation, like you said. I've read in some places that they benefit from an amp though. Would they be fine plugged straight into a Macbook Pro or if they need one is there one you'd recommend that wouldn't cost much?
 

HiResDes

Member
Was leaning a little more towards to DJ100s since I loved my PortaPros back in the day and looked like they had better isolation, like you said. I've read in some places that they benefit from an amp though. Would they be fine plugged straight into a Macbook Pro or if they need one is there one you'd recommend that wouldn't cost much?
They definitely sound better amped and the cheapest one I'd recommend (Schiit Fulla) would cost as much as the headphones themselves. Takstar Pro 80, creative aurvana live, and the NVX XPT100's are all a bit more efficient. Not sure if they improved efficiency in the newer model but it'd be worth checking into.
 

llexan

Member
They definitely sound better amped and the cheapest one I'd recommend (Schiit Fulla) would cost as much as the headphones themselves. Takstar Pro 80, creative aurvana live, and the NVX XPT100's are all a bit more efficient. Not sure if they improved efficiency in the newer model but it'd be worth checking into.

Thanks a bunch for help! I think I'm going to go with the Aurvana Live 2 since it doesn't need an amp and seems like I'll enjoy its sound the most for my budget (removable cable is a win too). I'm new to the headphone/audiophile scene and this thread has helped a lot :)

One day when I have the budget I'll get a more proper setup for home haha
 

andylsun

Member
I'm in Hong Kong early next week, and might pop to mingo headphone in WanChai and see if they have spinfits. If not, I'm sure there'll be something else worth buying.

Rockets do like power. Very good indeed with the Dragonfly compared to my onboard audio output.
 

HiResDes

Member
I'm in Hong Kong early next week, and might pop to mingo headphone in WanChai and see if they have spinfits. If not, I'm sure there'll be something else worth buying.

Rockets do like power. Very good indeed with the Dragonfly compared to my onboard audio output.
Yeah out of Samsung Galaxy they're quite timid sounding.
 

llexan

Member
The Creative Aurvana Live 2 might as well be semi open, they leak quite a bit, just a fair warning.

Thanks for the heads up! Because of that I decided to go for the Gemini HSR-1000, which I read is a rebrand of the Pro80s. I'm pretty stoked!
 

LCfiner

Member
Listening to the R2Pro for most of the day. I decided to cancel my JH Audio Angie order. They could be better. I don’t think they’ll be 800 bucks better and I don’t feel like comparing them then taking a hundred bucks in losses selling them used. So I suppose I’ll just have to read others impressions on the Angies. :) Maybe I’ll pick some up used later in the year if they show up in Canada.

So, with that said, the R2Pro are incredibly impressive. I can see how one could prefer more vibrant upper mids or wider soundstage from another IEM but these tick so many boxes for me. They’re better than the Sennheiser IE800 that I sold a few months ago. More even tone across the spectrum, treble isn’t papery thin for cymbals. lower mids are also more present on the R2pro.

It’s been too long since I heard some other TOTL IEMs like the tralucent 1p2, Roxannes, Fitear 334 so I can’t compare them directly. But I know that the feeling I got when I started listening to the flares was similar to the other high end IEMs. I was getting a sound that I felt was closer to high end headphones.

I’ve had some PMs with Dynamite and he has had some issues with some songs sounding a bit hollow in the mids or bass being a bit too much but I have not heard this. different ears, different fit, maybe? maybe different expectations and baselines of what we would call “too bassy”.

I know that the R2Pro are keepers. I don’t think I could find anything portable I like as much as this for under a grand. The fact that they’re tiny and I can easily pop them in a front shirt pocket is a bonus.

Just gathering my thoughts on the Flare R2Pro. posted this on head-fi and some here might be curious.

I just got a used set of Flare R2Pros and I think they’re pretty great. I’m amazed by their small size. I’m using the stock complys.

Soundstage is pretty interesting as it’s a bit more in front of the head than inside the head. Just a bit. it’s not particularly wide but imaging is excellent. My first impression is that their tone is very natural and realistic. bass is present but only very slightly boosted (I prefer that for my IEMs to make up for loss of body impact). it’s quick and clean and tight.

Mids are very natural and clear. I think there might be a little bit of upper mids recession to prevent some shoutiness but I don’t think it’s very much. Overall, all my key songs to test male and female vocals and stringed instruments sound excellent. very rich and present. No mid bass bleed or bloat.

Treble is very smooth with no harshness. Some tracks I have that are mastered a bit hot and are compressed don’t sound painful or shrill - they sound closer to my speakers. but I don’t get the sense that the treble is too heavily subdued. there is a nice sparkle when called for.

As a first impression, I’m very happy. The sound is clean, clear, excellently balanced. Lots of detail and speed: instruments have a good sense of space and complex passages don’t sound compressed or fuzzy. I’m a bigger “tone" guy than “details” guy so keep that in mind with my impressions. It’s possible other IEMs in this price range can extract more detail but I doubt I’d be able to tell.
 

HiResDes

Member
Thanks for the heads up! Because of that I decided to go for the Gemini HSR-1000, which I read is a rebrand of the Pro80s. I'm pretty stoked!
Good choice had those for a second before I gave them to a friend. Pretty similar to the Koss Pro DJ100 but will sound good unamped out of larger variety of sources. Very neutral


LC, maybe he was using the silicone tips, heard they can get a little bassy without the Complys. Anyway amazing impressions, might grab a pair, but I'm just gonna save for some Stax didn't win the Koss electrostatics
 

LCfiner

Member
Good choice had those for a second before I gave them to a friend. Pretty similar to the Koss Pro DJ100 but will sound good unamped out of larger variety of sources. Very neutral


LC, maybe he was using the silicone tips, heard they can get a little bassy without the Complys. Anyway amazing impressions, might grab a pair, but I'm just gonna save for some Stax didn't win the Koss electrostatics

I think he was using the recommended foam tips. Impressions I read from people who used silicone tips was that of shrill highs and low/no bass. not the issue with Dynamite's findings. And I cannot say these have bloated bass for me. I've had IEMs with either bloated bass or just a big subbass boost and these are more neutral. (there's a bit of a boost but it's not overdone)

I think there are fit/ seal issues or insertion depth variances with these IEMs that can result in some differences in impressions. I have had consistent results with them but other impressions suggest that they can sound pretty different even when trying to insert them to the same depth each time. For example, there's talk of sibilance that I do not hear (again, I've had IEMs and headphones that have sibilance but I don't get it here)

Anyway, I would consider the different impressions as a "buyer beware" type thing. The flare r2pro totally work for me but it seems they don't have the same impact on other people,
 
I was actually using silicon tips. Rolled through several of them. The Flares are EXTREMELY sensitive to fit I think. I've been talking to James444 a lot about them on the side, as we're both trying to understand this weird phone, but my impressions are fairly similar to his, although he's much more down on them than I am (he didn't seem to feel as though they were all that much better than a $40 pair of AKG buds he had on him). He's mentioned highly varying impressions even on the same pair of tips, which I can understand since he has big ears/big canals. The Flares are so minuscule that any variance in angle would likely affect the FR. As it stands, I think I'll have to defer to Rockets as being a much more evenhanded take on the micro driver/titanium shell phone.

The Flares sound quite unlike anything else I have on hand, including Rockets. As LC mentioned, there is the distinct feeling of a forwardly projected soundstage. To illustrate this, I'm gonna borrow James' little picture:

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the Flare sounds more like the IE8 in that diagram, with the soundstage appearing as though it were in front of your face. It's purely psychological, but on some recordings, it can feel very convincing in a way I haven't personally heard since the 1Plus2. Vocals, guitars, drums... things seem to just float in front of your face in distinct layers from background to foreground. A very unique and holographic feel.

How I personally hear it is:

Emphasis in the bass from 100-250 Hz, pretty flat mids (although I'm perceiving some suckout in the upper mids, that oddly enough, doesn't seem to register when I run sine sweeps), within the mids though, there's a noticeable dip at about 1 kHz, followed by a bump at 3 kHz, and then it's fairly even until a big treble spike at 8.5-9 khz.


I don't get the subdued cymbals like James, but sometimes, the cymbals would come across as sort of etched and sharp, other times, it comes across very convincingly. Some vocals would come across as teetering right on the cusp of sibilance. It doesn't actually ever veer into full blow 'Ssss" but on harsher consonants, you can get just a taste of it. The bass sounds quite flat most of the time, until that weird bass hump causes certain things to come across with uneven emphasis. I guess if you wanna feel the kick drum or the bass lines in EDM it's pretty awesome. Highly textured and tight. I honestly get the same quality of bass in something like the Angie or UERM, but the quantity is much more tasteful (don't get me wrong, Angie still kicks and thumps with force aplomb, I just don't get fatigued in the same manner as the R2Pro), and those phones don't tend towards congestion like the R2Pro does. On some recordings, I can definitely feel the driver being strained. It just sounds murky to me in a way that never crops up on the Angie/UERM, like things are just blurring together cause everything's scrunched.

I also find that things sort of lack body and edge on the R2Pro. I especially notice this on vocals and guitar. There's noticeably more depth and body to the notes on the Angie/UERM. The R2Pro actually sounds quite good if I listen to it in isolation, but the moment one of my other phones enters the equation, all bets are off. That and I find its overall performance to be kind of erratic, sounding really nice on certain things, and worse on others. This isn't especially surprising to me given how evenly the UERM measures (it sounds very similar to a smaller version of my Stax 207, which again, measures very evenly). That and, I think I'm just too used to the timbre of BA based phones these days. I was joking with James that I'd almost forgotten what dynamic drivers sound like, as the only DD phone I still use is the FX850 for classical and solo piano (and no, the R2Pro doesn't sound more convincing to me there either)

I'll keep playing around with fits and whatnot, but so far, I think it's a good, albeit flawed phone with some caveats to use that would likely serve as a "buyer beware" as LC mentioned. I should have known better since I was one of the heavily, heavily skeptical people in that thread very early on, pushing those who had access to the R2s to post more in-depth and critical impressions, and... of course no one did. And as the impressions started pouring in and things became more and more uneven. Well LOL

Oh, and I can't wait for you to hear the 207 Des. You'll likely never be impressed by anything ever again. There's just nothing out there that actually sounds appreciably better to my ears. A friend of mine recently attended the Seattle meet with 207 in tow and visited the Headamp booth to check out the 009 (which he's heard several times) connected to the BHSE and he wasn't impressed. He told me that even Justin of Headamp himself felt the 207 sounded better than the 007 Mk I they had connected to the BHSE
 

Slurmp

Banned
Hey!

Could I get some recommendations for headphones? I guess really what I'm looking for in earbuds? I prefer those over "over-the-head"-phones with the big circular ear.... clamps. I'd be using them for music, gaming, podcasts and at the gym; if any of that matters.

The last headphones I've bought have all broken or been very uncomfortable in the last couple years.

I'd prefer not to spend more than like.. 35 bucks? Are there a pair of headphones to recommend that aren't the kind I dislike?

Thanks for any help.
 
I'm in Hong Kong early next week, and might pop to mingo headphone in WanChai and see if they have spinfits. If not, I'm sure there'll be something else worth buying.

Rockets do like power. Very good indeed with the Dragonfly compared to my onboard audio output.

If you need spinfits and they don't have any, get in touch with headfier dopaminer by pm. He'll sort you out in whichever size you need. He is away until august though.
 

cruisx

Neo Member
Thinking about picking up a Sennheiser G4ME ZERO to use with the PS4. Based on my understanding I need a AMP or something to power it correctly? I am new to this so can you guys recommend something that I would be able to use with my PS4? Most affordable as possible.

Thanks.
 

HiResDes

Member
Thinking about picking up a Sennheiser G4ME ZERO to use with the PS4. Based on my understanding I need a AMP or something to power it correctly? I am new to this so can you guys recommend something that I would be able to use with my PS4? Most affordable as possible.

Thanks.
You don't need an amp but something like the Schiit Fulla couldn't hurt.

If you need spinfits and they don't have any, get in touch with headfier dopaminer by pm. He'll sort you out in whichever size you need. He is away until august though.
He's the one that sent mine, fast shipping, great communication.
Hey!

Could I get some recommendations for headphones? I guess really what I'm looking for in earbuds? I prefer those over "over-the-head"-phones with the big circular ear.... clamps. I'd be using them for music, gaming, podcasts and at the gym; if any of that matters.

The last headphones I've bought have all broken or been very uncomfortable in the last couple years.

I'd prefer not to spend more than like.. 35 bucks? Are there a pair of headphones to recommend that aren't the kind I dislike?

Thanks for any help.

Are you talking about clip ons? If so then just get two pair of Koss KSC75.

I was actually using silicon tips. Rolled through several of them. The Flares are EXTREMELY sensitive to fit I think. I've been talking to James444 a lot about them on the side, as we're both trying to understand this weird phone, but my impressions are fairly similar to his, although he's much more down on them than I am (he didn't seem to feel as though they were all that much better than a $40 pair of AKG buds he had on him). He's mentioned highly varying impressions even on the same pair of tips, which I can understand since he has big ears/big canals. The Flares are so minuscule that any variance in angle would likely affect the FR. As it stands, I think I'll have to defer to Rockets as being a much more evenhanded take on the micro driver/titanium shell phone.

The Flares sound quite unlike anything else I have on hand, including Rockets. As LC mentioned, there is the distinct feeling of a forwardly projected soundstage. To illustrate this, I'm gonna borrow James' little picture:

592x1000px-LL-85ccd4cd_5c20dead_1000x500px-LL-f5fc1cdf_SM3_Soundstage.jpeg


the Flare sounds more like the IE8 in that diagram, with the soundstage appearing as though it were in front of your face. It's purely psychological, but on some recordings, it can feel very convincing in a way I haven't personally heard since the 1Plus2. Vocals, guitars, drums... things seem to just float in front of your face in distinct layers from background to foreground. A very unique and holographic feel.

How I personally hear it is:

Emphasis in the bass from 100-250 Hz, pretty flat mids (although I'm perceiving some suckout in the upper mids, that oddly enough, doesn't seem to register when I run sine sweeps), within the mids though, there's a noticeable dip at about 1 kHz, followed by a bump at 3 kHz, and then it's fairly even until a big treble spike at 8.5-9 khz.


I don't get the subdued cymbals like James, but sometimes, the cymbals would come across as sort of etched and sharp, other times, it comes across very convincingly. Some vocals would come across as teetering right on the cusp of sibilance. It doesn't actually ever veer into full blow 'Ssss" but on harsher consonants, you can get just a taste of it. The bass sounds quite flat most of the time, until that weird bass hump causes certain things to come across with uneven emphasis. I guess if you wanna feel the kick drum or the bass lines in EDM it's pretty awesome. Highly textured and tight. I honestly get the same quality of bass in something like the Angie or UERM, but the quantity is much more tasteful (don't get me wrong, Angie still kicks and thumps with force aplomb, I just don't get fatigued in the same manner as the R2Pro), and those phones don't tend towards congestion like the R2Pro does. On some recordings, I can definitely feel the driver being strained. It just sounds murky to me in a way that never crops up on the Angie/UERM, like things are just blurring together cause everything's scrunched.

I also find that things sort of lack body and edge on the R2Pro. I especially notice this on vocals and guitar. There's noticeably more depth and body to the notes on the Angie/UERM. The R2Pro actually sounds quite good if I listen to it in isolation, but the moment one of my other phones enters the equation, all bets are off. That and I find its overall performance to be kind of erratic, sounding really nice on certain things, and worse on others. This isn't especially surprising to me given how evenly the UERM measures (it sounds very similar to a smaller version of my Stax 207, which again, measures very evenly). That and, I think I'm just too used to the timbre of BA based phones these days. I was joking with James that I'd almost forgotten what dynamic drivers sound like, as the only DD phone I still use is the FX850 for classical and solo piano (and no, the R2Pro doesn't sound more convincing to me there either)

I'll keep playing around with fits and whatnot, but so far, I think it's a good, albeit flawed phone with some caveats to use that would likely serve as a "buyer beware" as LC mentioned. I should have known better since I was one of the heavily, heavily skeptical people in that thread very early on, pushing those who had access to the R2s to post more in-depth and critical impressions, and... of course no one did. And as the impressions started pouring in and things became more and more uneven. Well LOL

Oh, and I can't wait for you to hear the 207 Des. You'll likely never be impressed by anything ever again. There's just nothing out there that actually sounds appreciably better to my ears. A friend of mine recently attended the Seattle meet with 207 in tow and visited the Headamp booth to check out the 009 (which he's heard several times) connected to the BHSE and he wasn't impressed. He told me that even Justin of Headamp himself felt the 207 sounded better than the 007 Mk I they had connected to the BHSE
Incredible writeup my man and I'm looking forward to it as well, never had really detailed, resolving full size phones.
 
Hey guys, I got the V-MODA Crossfade M-80 that was recommended to me in this thread a while ago but I'm having an issue with it. I from Mexico so I don't know if I'm out of luck or not, but I bought the White Silver version from Amazon and they delivered the package through our version of USPS and I believe my package was opened because the ribbon that seals the box was cut and thrown inside the box. I've also been watch unboxing videos on YouTube and it comes with a manual with a registration code for the 2 year warranty but mine didn't come with one, the only piece of paper I got is an ad about the headset, it also is comes (in the videos) with 2 Kevlar cables but mine only came with one, also the my box is white with orange and I've only seen in the videos white with red boxes.

But my real issue is this:

Does this look alright? I believe it does not because the left handle (sorry if that is not the correct term) is sticking out way too much. So GAF, are my headset defective? How does the warranty work if the registration paper didn't come in my box and I'm outside the U.S.? Do I contact Amazon or V-MODA? Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Yeah I've had that issue with mine too. Dunno how common it is. You might want to get that looked at because it develops a creaking noise.
 

LQX

Member
Hey guys, I got the V-MODA Crossfade M-80 that was recommended to me in this thread a while ago but I'm having an issue with it. I from Mexico so I don't know if I'm out of luck or not, but I bought the White Silver version from Amazon and they delivered the package through our version of USPS and I believe my package was opened because the ribbon that seals the box was cut and thrown inside the box. I've also been watch unboxing videos on YouTube and it comes with a manual with a registration code for the 2 year warranty but mine didn't come with one, the only piece of paper I got is an ad about the headset, it also is comes (in the videos) with 2 Kevlar cables but mine only came with one, also the my box is white with orange and I've only seen in the videos white with red boxes.

But my real issue is this:


Does this look alright? I believe it does not because the left handle (sorry if that is not the correct term) is sticking out way too much. So GAF, are my headset defective? How does the warranty work if the registration paper didn't come in my box and I'm outside the U.S.? Do I contact Amazon or V-MODA? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

You know I also thought mine was opened because in the un-boxing videos most showed two cables but only one was in the box. It really pissed me off as the mic on the cable causes conflicts and lessons the volume on my system. I will check later for the warranty card and if mine also sticks out.

That said, if Amazon customer service is as good in Mexico as they are in the US I would contact them first as they might send you a new one promptly.
 

Neph1x

Neo Member
So, I've owned a pair of Sennheiser PC360 headphones for a couple of years now and really love them to bits but it's time to look for something new.

Over the years I've tried to replace them, trying out Denon AHD2000's and a pair of Fidelio X2's ( which were highly recommended ).
Problem is that the Denon AHD2000's were great overall but they're not made for long listening sessions at all. And while the X2's had great bass and overall clarity, it just felt like I was listening to stuff while sitting in a tin can ( narrow soundstage ).

It'd be worth adding that I'm mostly using my headphones for movies and video games, but if I do listen to music, I never stick to one specific genre.


With that said, can anyone recommend a pair of headphones under 500-600€ with a wide soundstage that would at least measure up well and be a decent upgrade from a pair of Sennheiser PC360's?
Only other request is that they are open-back and comfortable enough for long listening sessions.
 

HiResDes

Member
If all you care about is soundstage like it sounds then you should make that clear that's your first priority... Just buy some Audio Technica AD700 and call it day. They're extremely bass light, but sport an even wider soundstage and good clarity as well. There I just saved you 400 dollars or so.


I guess if you really want a true upgrade though you might want to look into the AKG K712 Pro, Sony MDRMA900, Beyerdynamic DT 880,Ultrasone HFI-2400 or Sony MDR-F1. I'd highly recommend the Sony MDR ma900 for comfort, low impedance, and balanced sound.
 

Neph1x

Neo Member
If all you care about is soundstage like it sounds then you should make that clear that's your first priority... Just buy some Audio Technica AD700 and call it day. They're extremely bass light, but sport an even wider soundstage and good clarity as well. There I just saved you 400 dollars or so.


I guess if you really want a true upgrade though you might want to look into the AKG K712 Pro, Sony MDRMA900, Beyerdynamic DT 880,Ultrasone HFI-2400 or Sony MDR-F1. I'd highly recommend the Sony MDR ma900 for comfort, low impedance, and balanced sound.

I should have made myself more clear; I don't consider soundstage to be of the utmost importance but there are definitely some cans that are just way too narrow. ( i.e Fidelio X2 )

What I'm mainly looking for is a balanced headphone.

Sony MDRMA900 sounds good but difficult to get a hold of around here.
Will look into the Beyerdynamic; any idea how it compares to a T90?
 

HiResDes

Member
The X2 aren't narrow at all though man, just not artificially expanded, pretty natural sounding actually. The T90 are very detailed, dynamic, and comfortable but at this point I'm not sure their soundstage is wide enough to really please you. It's in a completely different price bracket then the Sony MDR ma900, but you can get a T1 or HD800 for a little more so I wouldn't say it's a very good value.
 

Neph1x

Neo Member
The X2 aren't narrow at all though man, just not artificially expanded, pretty natural sounding actually. The T90 are very detailed, dynamic, and comfortable but at this point I'm not sure their soundstage is wide enough to really please you. It's in a completely different price bracket then the Sony MDR ma900, but you can get a T1 or HD800 for a little more so I wouldn't say it's a very good value.

Hmm, it might well have been better with some more burn-in as I returned them without any extensive listening. Just got used to the sound signature of the Sennheisers.
Could have been a combination of factors but the sound just wasn't for me, sorry if my explanation is lacking.

The Sony MDR ma900 is actually around the same price as the Beyer T90 around these parts. Could order it from overseas and save a penny though but it feels safer to have the option to return it.
 

HiResDes

Member
Hmm, it might well have been better with some more burn-in as I returned them without any extensive listening. Just got used to the sound signature of the Sennheisers.
Could have been a combination of factors but the sound just wasn't for me, sorry if my explanation is lacking.

The Sony MDR ma900 is actually around the same price as the Beyer T90 around these parts. Could order it from overseas and save a penny though but it feels safer to have the option to return it.
Man just looked up prices and none of it makes any sense go with the T90 then with the prices considered. Shit is ridiculous in Europe.
 

FoxSpirit

Junior Member
Got the HD-650. Sounds as lovely as ever.

Also learned: thanks to the loudness war, songs have no bass. Awww FUCK. EQing 4-6 dB in makes everything so much nicer. But it still sucks, when you buy HiFi stuff bassy songs sound thin since with a DR of 7-8 you don't have a lot of volume left to make proper strong bass.

I just wish we would finally implement a standard solution so loud songs loose all advantage and I get good SQ by default.
 

Neph1x

Neo Member
Man just looked up prices and none of it makes any sense go with the T90 then with the prices considered. Shit is ridiculous in Europe.

Yeah tell me about it.. Prices are all over the place.
Thanks for the advice though, I'll try out the T90!
 
You know I also thought mine was opened because in the un-boxing videos most showed two cables but only one was in the box. It really pissed me off as the mic on the cable causes conflicts and lessons the volume on my system. I will check later for the warranty card and if mine also sticks out.

That said, if Amazon customer service is as good in Mexico as they are in the US I would contact them first as they might send you a new one promptly.

I've contacted Amazon and they will give me back my money but they can't replace it because the seller is Amazon USA and therefore it is an imported item. Now, I bought this headsets when they were on a discount but now they're more expensive and also our Mexican currency is devaluing at a depressing rate against the dollar so it will cost me more to purchase the same headsets again. Should I get my money back or just deal with it?

Yeah I've had that issue with mine too. Dunno how common it is. You might want to get that looked at because it develops a creaking noise.

Yes it already has the creaking noise if I press the bottom handle.
 
Incredible writeup my man and I'm looking forward to it as well, never had really detailed, resolving full size phones.

Thanks, and if you've ever wondered what some of the top shelf IEMs (such as the UERM/Angie) are capable of, the 207 should answer that question for you. Just imagine a very similar signature/technical capability with a soundstage that feels maybe roughly 7/10ths the size of the 207. If you're into neutral, airy, highly detailed sigs, then for the money, yeah, the 2170 system is pretty much without peer IMO. Fuck, typing that up actually makes me wanna listen to it except it's currently all boxed up to be sent to a friend :l

Anyone have experience with the dunu titan 1?

I've got a couple of loaner IEMs coming in soon including the Titan (Dunu D2000J, Heaven VII, and Titan). I've heard sort of mixed things in regard to the Titan from a friend (SGS) but he's sort of notoriously picky about his phones. It's supposed to be quite good for the price tho, we’ll see. I pretty much know nothing about it, and the only Dunu I’ve heard was the original D2000? (which I thought actually sounded pretty good, but I preferred the V-Sonic GR07BE to it)
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Cool, looking forward to some impressions.

Also saw that the Fiio ex1 looks like it's basically a rebrand of the dunu titan 1. Which would be cool because it'll be easier for me to get here in australia because we have a fiio distributor.
 

terrible

Banned
Got the HD-650. Sounds as lovely as ever.

Also learned: thanks to the loudness war, songs have no bass. Awww FUCK. EQing 4-6 dB in makes everything so much nicer. But it still sucks, when you buy HiFi stuff bassy songs sound thin since with a DR of 7-8 you don't have a lot of volume left to make proper strong bass.

I just wish we would finally implement a standard solution so loud songs loose all advantage and I get good SQ by default.

And the scary thing is warmer headphones are probably the most forgiving when it comes to poorly mastered music. Be happy you're not using DT 880s or something haha.
 

andylsun

Member
Thanks, and if you've ever wondered what some of the top shelf IEMs (such as the UERM/Angie) are capable of, the 207 should answer that question for you. Just imagine a very similar signature/technical capability with a soundstage that feels maybe roughly 7/10ths the size of the 207. If you're into neutral, airy, highly detailed sigs, then for the money, yeah, the 2170 system is pretty much without peer IMO. Fuck, typing that up actually makes me wanna listen to it except it's currently all boxed up to be sent to a friend :l

That's not helping DRM! My 2170 is 8,000 miles away. Hopefully my daughter is using them occasionally.

Rockets update: ran without the tri-tips for the last few days and they seems to be more sensitive to ear positioning as they move around more. When they are in the sweet spot the bass is great, but if I swallow or clear my throat the bass drops out for a second. Sounds like you had the same problem with the flare? I've put the tri-tips back in and also moved up one size of incuded tips to see if I can make them a bit more consistent.

Edit: going to pick up some different tips and try rolling.

HiResDes, do you finally have some STAX goodness on the way then?
 

HiResDes

Member
No had car problems that arose and went too hard at the bar, gonna have to wait or sell some stuff. You should try the spinfits man, getting a deep seal seems easier with them. I think they sound best with a deep insertion.
 

andylsun

Member
No had car problems that arose and went too hard at the bar, gonna have to wait or sell some stuff. You should try the spinfits man, getting a deep seal seems easier with them. I think they sound best with a deep insertion.

Will be in HK at the end of next week, and will see what I can find.

the tri-tips help with consistent ear position and that's the point I guess. I don't like the tri tips hard up against the ear tips as they were causing seal issues, but half way along the body works good.

Edit: yep tri-tips and upgrading tip size to the largest have fixed the drop outs. I can now listen to music while I drink a cup of coffee with consistent bass. It may have been the previous ear tips were slightly too small, or the tri-tips are keeping the drivers at a more constant angle in my ear.

Royskopp - The Inevitable End has perfect everything with this setup. Dragonfly giving it lots of presence.

James Blake - Limit to your love - yeah, there's nothing wrong with the bass here...
 

LQX

Member
I've contacted Amazon and they will give me back my money but they can't replace it because the seller is Amazon USA and therefore it is an imported item. Now, I bought this headsets when they were on a discount but now they're more expensive and also our Mexican currency is devaluing at a depressing rate against the dollar so it will cost me more to purchase the same headsets again. Should I get my money back or just deal with it?



Yes it already has the creaking noise if I press the bottom handle.

These are some of the most durable headphones so if yours is already showing signs of defect/ware I would send it back. Does V-Moda provide warranty for these in Mexico? Since you really want to keep them you may want to see if they will send you out a new one as big part of there warranty is the durability of these headphones.

Also, looking at your picture again the handle is also sticking up on mine but both of mine are that way and not just one and they are still very sturdy with no creaking or movement at all when I touch them.
 
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