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[Nabs]

=\ steam. they always have downtime when i want to play a game

 

[Blizzard]

Well not usually, just at 3 a.m. on Easter morning when we're trying to play. =P

 

[DaFish]

Oh well... I've got people coming over tomorrow and I don't want to be a zombie anyway.

GG's

Spoiler

Don't get on the boat! :lol

 

[dLMN8R]

Man playing Versus on a hacked Dead Air really makes me appreciate the work Valve did for versus on the two officially-supported campaigns. It was soooo easy for survivors, just plain flat, boring experience. That's outside of the obvious glitches you're bound to encounter on a hacked map, like the tank spawning in an unreachable area.

Can't wait for April 21st...

 

[woxel1]

So my friend is like, come join me in L4D, so I reinstall it from a backup, all excited -- wow, I bet they've improved versus and the community has probably become more welcoming. Well as soon as the game starts I'm dropped from a weird bug ("No Steam Login"), then when I rejoin we blow through the map and suddenly I'm on the other team. Attempts at communicating with my new teammates are met with mockery -- then I'm teamvoted out. Finally, I switch to TF2.

 

[Twig]

So my friend is like, come join me in L4D, so I reinstall it from a backup, all excited -- wow, I bet they've improved versus and the community has probably become more welcoming. Well as soon as the game starts I'm dropped from a weird bug ("No Steam Login"), then when I rejoin we blow through the map and suddenly I'm on the other team. Attempts at communicating with my new teammates are met with mockery -- then I'm teamvoted out. Finally, I switch to TF2.

Great story would read again.

 

[syllogism]

Here's a demonstration of the push mechanic i was talking about a while ago

http://www.hdshare.tv/video/5542/Hunter-Push-Tutorial

 

[Pixel Samurai]

Lookin' for some NeoGAF player to play either Versus or Co-op on 360, theses games with randoms (read: ragequitters) are really getting stale.

GT: FreshMozzarella

 

[fallout]

So my friend is like, come join me in L4D, so I reinstall it from a backup, all excited -- wow, I bet they've improved versus and the community has probably become more welcoming. Well as soon as the game starts I'm dropped from a weird bug ("No Steam Login"), then when I rejoin we blow through the map and suddenly I'm on the other team. Attempts at communicating with my new teammates are met with mockery -- then I'm teamvoted out. Finally, I switch to TF2.

Great story would read again.

Just wait till you see the movie adaptation. They totally fucked it up.

 

[Mash]

So my friend is like, come join me in L4D, so I reinstall it from a backup, all excited -- wow, I bet they've improved versus and the community has probably become more welcoming. Well as soon as the game starts I'm dropped from a weird bug ("No Steam Login"), then when I rejoin we blow through the map and suddenly I'm on the other team. Attempts at communicating with my new teammates are met with mockery -- then I'm teamvoted out. Finally, I switch to TF2.

Seriously, the public L4D community are a miserable bunch lol. People start kick votes far too often for no reason.

 

[SundaySounds]

So have you guys seen Left 4 Head? lulz worthy.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

So have you guys seen Left 4 Head? lulz worthy.

A couple months ago.

 

[Sibylus]

Alright, I've decided my orange map shall be reborn as a Survival map, recycling some of the more cooler areas such as the stairs and furnace. Stay tuned for newz.

Spoiler

In the future, I might use some of my other L4D campaign ideas as ideas for further survival maps (Bridge map, bunker map, etc).

 

[SundaySounds]

Alright, I've decided my orange map shall be reborn as a Survival map, recycling some of the more cooler areas such as the stairs and furnace. Stay tuned for newz.

Spoiler

In the future, I might use some of my other L4D campaign ideas as ideas for further survival maps (Bridge map, bunker map, etc).

do you make maps? I wasn't aware.

 

[Avatar1]

My family has caught the L4D craze. My family alone has purchased about 6 copies of the game for 360 and now we get together to play versus as a family. LOL. it's freaking good times.

 

[Sibylus]

do you make maps? I wasn't aware.

In the learning process. I haven't really released anything yet, but I am learning lots of good stuff!

Spoiler

My time spent in the SDK is kind of... scary.

 

[Sibylus]

Seven days! Seven days! Seven days!

*spazzes out*

 

[Anton Sugar]

Is there a reason why Steam is selling the downloadable game for $50, and Amazon has the boxed PC game for $26?

 

[fallout]

Is there a reason why Steam is selling the downloadable game for $50, and Amazon has the boxed PC game for $26?

Possibly because Amazon felt like cutting the price on it to boost sales. Thankfully, you can buy that cheaper copy and have access to the downloadable version, too!

Really, if it's expensive, don't buy it.

 

[Bluemercury]

So have you guys seen Left 4 Head? lulz worthy.

Theres a sequel XP

 

[SundaySounds]

Is there a reason why Steam is selling the downloadable game for $50, and Amazon has the boxed PC game for $26?

Because Amazon is the boss.

 

[DaFish]

Because Amazon is the boss.

Oh Snap... no u di int!

Spoiler

I agree

 

[MNC]

Euro steam has it for 20 or 30, I forgot.

 

[Concept17]

Is there a reason why Steam is selling the downloadable game for $50, and Amazon has the boxed PC game for $26?

I also saw it in Walmart for 30$ the other day.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Is there a reason why Steam is selling the downloadable game for $50, and Amazon has the boxed PC game for $26?

Retail is not dead yet. Don't piss off retail. Don't mess with the retail.

 

[FerranMG]

Seven days! Seven days! Seven days!

*spazzes out*

Hopefully!

I've been holding myself to not start playing it again until the new stuff arrives. But I want so bad to play it again...

 

[starchild excalibur]

So I befriended this guy on Left 4 Dead a few days ago purely because I thought his user name was a reference to Madvillain (a collaboration between rapper-producer MF Doom and Madlib, but that's neither here nor there) although I found out through messaging him that it wasn't. No big deal. Anyway, I finally got my headset on to actually verbally chat with him about 20 minutes ago and it turns out the kid is, well, a kid. Doesn't even sound like he's gone through puberty.

Now i feel really fucking weird as a 22 year old chatting with this dude even if it's just in a game of L4D. So please, if anyone here plays on Live and is old enough to drive a car, please add me so I don't feel so fucking weird talking to someone who was barely born even born in the 90s :lol

My tag is Hubristol.

 

[Callo Merlose]

Left 4 Dead (or most any Live game) should only be played after hours to avoid teh kiddies. Also, to set the mood! I play, but I usually only play with friends and am not of a clear mind when I do.

 

[Volcynika]

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2417

So much awesome.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

 

[MrDaravon]

Is there a good compilation of all of the updates/fixes that the 360 version is getting next week along with the new stuff? There was a couple minor updates that the PC version got that are all coming at once on 360 next week right?

Edit: Nevermind, found it. So as far as I can tell, all of the gameplay tweaks that have been made will be hitting 360 with the Survival Pack DLC correct?

We recently updated the PC version of Left 4 Dead with some exploit fixes and Versus balancing. We are going to be releasing another small update later today that contains some server issue fixes and one small, but very large, gameplay adjustment. We have made a change to the melee mechanic in Versus and the soon-to-be-released Survival Mode.

Xbox 360 users will see these same gameplay changes in an update coming out with the DLC — which, in case you missed the announcement, will be coming out April 21st.

I mainly ask because everyone specifically mentions stuff like the melee change, and tank multihit, but I'm also wanting to make sure that 360 is getting all of the other changes, like Smoker wider cone/able to pull through common infected, Boomer able to vomit through common infected, etc.

Here's a raw look at the updates that have been released so far for PC: http://store.steampowered.com/news/?filter=updates&appids=500

Update released for 360 in Feb: http://left4dead411.com/news/2009/02/l4d-360-update/

So in general, any updates for PC past January 14 2009 will go to 360.. if they apply to 360.

That steampowered link is what I finally found, google was failing me.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Is there a good compilation of all of the updates/fixes that the 360 version is getting next week along with the new stuff? There was a couple minor updates that the PC version got that are all coming at once on 360 next week right?

Here's a raw look at the updates that have been released so far for PC: http://store.steampowered.com/news/?filter=updates&appids=500

Update released for 360 in Feb: http://left4dead411.com/news/2009/02/l4d-360-update/

So in general, any updates for PC past January 14 2009 will go to 360.. if they apply to 360.

 

[this guy]

http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=2417

So much awesome.

Tanks and hordes spawning every thirty seconds? More common infected kills in one round than an entire campaign? I can't wait.

 

[Blizzard]

Tanks and hordes spawning every thirty seconds? More common infected kills in one round than an entire campaign? I can't wait.

I'm not a fan of killing zombies, especially semi-laggy ones on iffy servers. :/ Now if they gave me a rocket launcher or flamethrower or chainsaw for survial mode, maaaaybe.

They ARE still releasing the two other maps next week, right? Riiiiight? Even though they delayed the SDK release for another 3 years?

 

[PillowKnight]

:lol Survival's gonna be awesome. If you look at the graph, towards 14 minutes a tank spawns every 3 or so seconds.

 

[Sibylus]

Damn, from the five minute mark on, it looks like two Tanks at once becomes a very real possibility.

 

[RadarScope1]

Down to a science.

What has Valve done in the past with 360 DLC? They do content free on PC, right? But do they charge on the console side?

 

[Geek]

Down to a science.

What has Valve done in the past with 360 DLC? They do content free on PC, right? But do they charge on the console side?

It's supposed to be free for 360 owners.

 

[Volcynika]

Down to a science.

What has Valve done in the past with 360 DLC? They do content free on PC, right? But do they charge on the console side?

360 DLC is free, but also achievement-free.

 

[Sibylus]

Added some vertical lines and some numbers because moar info is awesome.

5 Minutes in...

- 4 tanks have been spawned in total
- 6 hordes have been spawned in total
- Probably 20+ specials in total have been spawned

10 Minutes in...

- 9~ tanks have been spawned in total
- 14~ hordes have been spawned in total
- Probably 50+ specials in total have been spawned

 

[Concept17]

This sounds better than I expected. I thought it was gonna be more like they mentioned in the beginning of the blog post and would simply get boring fast.

This should breathe a little life into the co-op aspect of the game for me, as I only play VS anymore.

I wonder - is this played at 'normal'? Or can you choose what difficulty?

 

[fallengorn]

Well, I got a new gpu. I should be set for the survivor pack.

 

[mattso]

Tanks and hordes spawning every thirty seconds? More common infected kills in one round than an entire campaign? I can't wait.

I have like 5-6k left to kill for zombie genocidest. I think this will make them go down in no time.

SOOOO excited

 

[Sibylus]

This sounds better than I expected. I thought it was gonna be more like they mentioned in the beginning of the blog post and would simply get boring fast.

This should breathe a little life into the co-op aspect of the game for me, as I only play VS anymore.

I wonder - is this played at 'normal'? Or can you choose what difficulty?

Melee fatigue will be active in Survival, so that might be a concern. I'll check the survival vids, see what damage the zombies deal.

 

[Sibylus]

The Survival videos seem to be playing on Normal.

 

[Tony Rocky Horror]

Next week finally Garry's Mod support please?

 

[Concept17]

The Survival videos seem to be playing on Normal.

Good. I would imagine this would be the ideal difficulty just like VS. They really only take you down when you're pulled+boomed, but just having one hitting you can screw you over. Its perfect really.

 

[syllogism]

Interesting, you can enable the hunter push ability by changing director_no_human_zombies to 1 after you've spawned as a hunter (or actually doesn't matter when you do it as long as you are playing infected). Pressing mouse1 when not crouching will then do the push attack.

 

[Volcynika]

My friend's complaining about survival mode, saying that it wouldn't be fun knowing that you're eventually going to die.

:lol

 

[Blizzard]

Interesting, you can enable the hunter push ability by changing director_no_human_zombies to 1 after you've spawned as a hunter (or actually doesn't matter when you do it as long as you are playing infected). Pressing mouse1 when not crouching will then do the push attack.

If I play I won't be able to resist using glitches like this. I don't use the assault rifle thing though. Hopefully Valve includes patches for stuff like this in the update.

Also I didn't see an answer...are death toll and dead air official support in this update or is it only survival? Or does anyone know?

My friend's complaining about survival mode, saying that it wouldn't be fun knowing that you're eventually going to die.

:lol

I agree with that pretty much totally. I've mentioned before that it basically seems like a tetris-style game to me. You know you're going to lose, and no matter how good you are, you always fail because you're not good enough. There's furthermore not even a goal to try to reach, except "longer".

Plus, I usually only have time to play left 4 dead in the evenings. I might get a game or two in...I might spend an hour or two only to lose, or I might win. But with this, every single time I launch left 4 dead it's only to lose a game. Maybe I'm weird, but I guess I like winning at least some of the time. :/

Plus killing zombies seems like the least fun part of the game to me.