Yeah it's fantastic so far, I just found out you can jump off the back of the starting area and run straight into the back alley from the get go and completely rush through the first area in like less than a minute even on expert. It's been said over and over but it's true, every run through feels unique but I think once you've played it a few times you can start to predict things like when there will be a rush, the placement of witches & tanks and things like that. Also I soooo wish there was more to do, it starts to feel a bit hollow when you've beaten it 3 times in a row and all you can say is "let's do it again!" but maybe change a few little things or hope the director throws something wildly different at you like, but I guess that's the point of the demo, to leave you wanting more and it definitely has done that for me. Can't wait for the full release.
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Fallout-NL
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Goddamn, still not seeing any games under the custom tab, can't connect to anything. This game is going to fucking kill me.
Fallout-NL
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Anyone know what ports to forward were I to have access to a router?
And the subway is part 2 of that series right? It loads after the first safe house, correct?Volcynika said:
I read these campaigns are supposed to be around 4 hours each or something. Yet, from what I can tell it takes about 20 min to go through the demo. The demo is 1/2 of a campaign correct (2 out of 4 areas)? My view of "campaigns" and "areas" could be incorrect though.
No, you can enable splitscreen in the PC version: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745113Gino said:
plagiarize
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some demo footage for people not yet in the thing, or for people interested.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSSOQD3ZLV0&
it's about ten minutes culled from the two demo maps.
enjoy the bit where i turn into a terrible team player once the tank shows up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSSOQD3ZLV0&
it's about ten minutes culled from the two demo maps.
enjoy the bit where i turn into a terrible team player once the tank shows up.
wayward archer
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Snowball said:
I'm pretty sure these are the final versions, but if you're concerned about length you should go watch full playthroughs that show the remaining 3 levels... the rest of the No Mercy Campaign is pretty big.
If you consider this is just 2 levels out of 25 total, there's gonna be a lot of content at release.
plagiarize
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i am told that the subway level is cut in half and that the safe room we see in the demo isn't there in the full version.Snowball said:
CajoleJuice
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Playing the same level over and over will do that.Rur0ni said:
plagiarize
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also bear in mind that this isn't even 2/5ths of the full No Mercy campaign and that the end is a lot harder than the beginning.CajoleJuice said:
two tanks at once
plagiarize
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you misunderstood me. the demo has TWO levels. the first one on the streets, the second in the subway. the streets level is the same as the retail version. the subway level is half of the second level from the retail version.Davidion said:
the safe room at the subway entrance isn't the one that isn't in the full version.
Cornballer
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Played last night with some Gaffers and other randoms. My neighbor popped in and we played splitscreen online for a while last night, too - very cool of Valve to include that in the demo. Definitely looking forward to the full release. 
plagiarize said:
Oh I see. You're talking about the second one on
the second floor of the warehouse
That's still ridiculous. I think people can attest here that getting through the subway area, just from the descent through the tunnels, is insanely hard on expert.
The impending pant-soiling has me somewhat excited, however. :lol
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the developers say they can't reliably get everyone to the helecopter playing expert. it wouldn't be very replayable if expert wasn't really really hard.Davidion said:
ThaiGrocer
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So we're actually getting 1.5 maps in the demo? Valve should be more explicit about the size of the demo compared to the full version. I would imagine potential customers would need less convincing to buy the game then. At least I know I would if I didn't pre-order already.plagiarize said:
So I just want to point out my feelings on the difficulty levels.
It seems like many people on here are passing up all difficulties other than expert, but I have yet to win a full match on expert.
Usually, though, these failed attempts don't feel so much like failures. Rather, they encouraged me to try it again, and do it better this time.
Advanced, on the other hand, is what I would consider to be "normal". Each time I've tried it, we only wiped maybe once, if ever.
The match still had challenging points, but they never seemed as dire as in expert. This is also really enjoyable, since you
can look forward to the satisfaction of actually winning
My biggest gameplay complaint so far comes from the Tanks.
Sweet mother of Moses, those guys are unfairly hard. It would be fair if they took their weight in lead to bring down,
it would be fair if they could move faster than the survivors could run, and it would be fair if they could throw chunks of earth further
than I can throw a newborn baby. But it's an entirely different cookie when they have all of these attributes an abilities. Am I missing something?
Do I suck? Tanks on expert are, as far as I can tell, a death sentence.
Anyway, enjoying the demo, and really looking forward to the full game, and the chance to play as the infected!
It seems like many people on here are passing up all difficulties other than expert, but I have yet to win a full match on expert.
Usually, though, these failed attempts don't feel so much like failures. Rather, they encouraged me to try it again, and do it better this time.
Advanced, on the other hand, is what I would consider to be "normal". Each time I've tried it, we only wiped maybe once, if ever.
The match still had challenging points, but they never seemed as dire as in expert. This is also really enjoyable, since you
can look forward to the satisfaction of actually winning
My biggest gameplay complaint so far comes from the Tanks.
Sweet mother of Moses, those guys are unfairly hard. It would be fair if they took their weight in lead to bring down,
it would be fair if they could move faster than the survivors could run, and it would be fair if they could throw chunks of earth further
than I can throw a newborn baby. But it's an entirely different cookie when they have all of these attributes an abilities. Am I missing something?
Do I suck? Tanks on expert are, as far as I can tell, a death sentence.
Anyway, enjoying the demo, and really looking forward to the full game, and the chance to play as the infected!
ThaiGrocer
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20 levels = 5 maps to load for each 'movie'. There are 4 movies.Xdrive05 said:
Yeah I'm not a fan of the tanks either. I hope you're playing the PC version, cause as soon as this game launches there'll probably be serverside mods that remove tanks from the game.poweld said:So I just want to point out my feelings on the difficulty levels.
It seems like many people on here are passing up all difficulties other than expert, but I have yet to win a full match on expert.
Usually, though, these failed attempts don't feel so much like failures. Rather, they encouraged me to try it again, and do it better this time.
Advanced, on the other hand, is what I would consider to be "normal". Each time I've tried it, we only wiped maybe once, if ever.
The match still had challenging points, but they never seemed as dire as in expert. This is also really enjoyable, since you
can look forward to the satisfaction of actually winning
My biggest gameplay complaint so far comes from the Tanks.
Sweet mother of Moses, those guys are unfairly hard. It would be fair if they took their weight in lead to bring down,
it would be fair if they could move faster than the survivors could run, and it would be fair if they could throw chunks of earth further
than I can throw a newborn baby. But it's an entirely different cookie when they have all of these attributes an abilities. Am I missing something?
Do I suck? Tanks on expert are, as far as I can tell, a death sentence.
Anyway, enjoying the demo, and really looking forward to the full game, and the chance to play as the infected!
dasupremeone
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Since no one is talking about it, the Single Player is fun as fuck!
Played the demo yesterday. I'm REALLY thinking that left 4 dead will be one of those games that's amazing when you first play, but get tired of after a good 2 weeks or so from playing. At least that's the feeling I got from playing the demo. Is there going to be some time of SDK included with the game?
Scotch said:
I am. I'd hate to see them removed altogether, cause they are a cool idea. They could be a nice change of pace from all the others
which die easily, but pose a pretty serious threat. I feel like if they couldn't run quite as fast as survivors they would be perfectly fair.
We shall see
The director can be so cheap, he placed a witch right where the that gun turret is, near the end, so we had to fight her. After that we were all just too hurt and died after we flipped the switch :S
I'm enjoying the demo so much I can't imagine how many hours I'll waste on the full game...
I'm enjoying the demo so much I can't imagine how many hours I'll waste on the full game...
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he put a witch at the top of the stairs on the way up to the warehouse basement in a game yesterday. i think it's fun when the witch is somewhere unavoidable especially since it's pretty uncommon.dude said:
BuddhaRockstar
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plagiarize said:
It seems like the director does this if you haven't had much difficulty yet, almost to say "Oh, you think this is easy? Have fun!"
BravoSuperStar
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yeah ive seen the witch by the mini-gun a couple times, and also right off the end of the subway train, making her pretty much unavoidable. Still i'd rather take on a witch than a tank, those guys just don't go down....
As cool as campaign is, I think versus mode is going to be the real draw.
When you have everything which is included in the campaign, but with 4 more humans who can take the place of boss infected roaming around the maps. Between this and the way the AI director handles enemy placement in levels, I really don't see this game ever getting old.
Mods and conversions and extra content on PC will be icing on the cake.
When you have everything which is included in the campaign, but with 4 more humans who can take the place of boss infected roaming around the maps. Between this and the way the AI director handles enemy placement in levels, I really don't see this game ever getting old.
Mods and conversions and extra content on PC will be icing on the cake.
CrazedArabMan
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dude said:
That's ok, he threw one right in the middle of the stupid subway car, the one you HAVE to pass through to get to the next part, and I was playing by myself and it one hit killed me. Curse you director!!!!
The Director works in the same way many of us would. Trick people into thinking all is fun and easy, then drop an uber boss and watch everyone die. :lol
Why all of the Tank hate? I think they are great because it makes the team change their tactics and have to focus on one bad-ass target. Tank's are the only boss monsters that make me panic when I see them charging towards me.
Why all of the Tank hate? I think they are great because it makes the team change their tactics and have to focus on one bad-ass target. Tank's are the only boss monsters that make me panic when I see them charging towards me.
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