TheGreatDave
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Left 4 Dead. I don't even own GOW2 and I know that.
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The Official Left 4 Dead Thread
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kbear said:
I'm getting both ¬_¬
CajoleJuice
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It's probably not the best idea to ask for an unbiased opinion in the LEFT 4 DEAD thread. 
omgimaninja
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Took all night but it finished preloading 
Question about the campaigns: Do you have to beat them all in order? Or, can a server decide to start a game at the Airport level, etc?
Question about the campaigns: Do you have to beat them all in order? Or, can a server decide to start a game at the Airport level, etc?
Giganticus
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I *might* have shot both my remaining teammates and then jumped off the building. Might have.
Also what to do when a tank attacks and kills capndrake and then for some reason you luck out and he gets stuck on a ledge and you shoot him in the foot until he dies. And that thing to do is hide in the vent. Like this.
Although sometimes the tank bugs out in a different way, and squeezes through, like this (not my video)
Also what to do when a tank attacks and kills capndrake and then for some reason you luck out and he gets stuck on a ledge and you shoot him in the foot until he dies. And that thing to do is hide in the vent. Like this.
Although sometimes the tank bugs out in a different way, and squeezes through, like this (not my video)
played the demo and while it was really awesome (spooky and fun) it seems that the gameplay may grow a bit tiresome. affecting the decision to purchase will be the variety of the experience...
how many levels in the full game? was the demo stage a complete level, or two complete levels (apartments and subway)?
how many levels in the full game? was the demo stage a complete level, or two complete levels (apartments and subway)?
Giganticus
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there are 4 campaigns, each has 5 levels. The first 2 levels of each campaign are rather short, the next 2 levels are significantly longer, and the last level is some sorta showdown thingy. basically, the demo is 1/4 the size of one campaign. also it doesn't include Versus mode, which according to RockPaperShotgun is the real meat of the game.op_ivy said:
Harvey Hedonist
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I played the fuck out of the demo last night. Holy good god is it fun. Fuck WOTLK, my monthly game allowance is going towards L4D.
Between this, Far Cry 2, and LBP I am going to be in gaming heaven.
Between this, Far Cry 2, and LBP I am going to be in gaming heaven.
http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1134
Don't know if this was posted yet, but this is the Valve Complete Pack... every Valve game, ever for $99, including Left 4 Dead. Wow, if I had a PC worth a damn, I'd love to buy this.
Don't know if this was posted yet, but this is the Valve Complete Pack... every Valve game, ever for $99, including Left 4 Dead. Wow, if I had a PC worth a damn, I'd love to buy this.
ThaiGrocer
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Xbox360 Owner and AVID Gears fan. Played a TON of gears of War 1 .... .
I just bought GOW2..... when i got home i fired up my 360, grabbed the L4D demo, and played that a few times before opening the wrapping on GOW2...
after playing BOTh for a short period.. While gears 2 might be graphically impressive. In terms of fun, L4D wins HANDS down for me.
Admittedly i havent tried the multiplayer in GOW2 as yet, but after a few run throughs on in the l4d demo, it just seemed to me like its going to be a more enjoyable experience playing with both friends and random people.
(disclaimer: i HAVE been on a recent zombie kick, after reading world war Z, and a Zombie Survival Guide... so maybe that has left me a LITTLE biased?)
I just bought GOW2..... when i got home i fired up my 360, grabbed the L4D demo, and played that a few times before opening the wrapping on GOW2...
after playing BOTh for a short period.. While gears 2 might be graphically impressive. In terms of fun, L4D wins HANDS down for me.
Admittedly i havent tried the multiplayer in GOW2 as yet, but after a few run throughs on in the l4d demo, it just seemed to me like its going to be a more enjoyable experience playing with both friends and random people.
(disclaimer: i HAVE been on a recent zombie kick, after reading world war Z, and a Zombie Survival Guide... so maybe that has left me a LITTLE biased?)
wayward archer
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jag0 said:
Being a zombie movie/book fan just makes this game all the sweeter.
ThaiGrocer
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Motivational posters don't really make me laugh that much any more. but what the hell?
Giganticus
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oh my god, a single hunting rifle shot scoped to the head of a witch kills it insta :O
VictimOfGrief
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I came to the same conclusion. I played it some more with friends last night after several single player runs---- and the game is fun but the problem is Valve put as much polish on it as they could; which is why the TF2 left their posts for a while to work on L4D and get things working right (which thankfully everything is turning out just great) however.... the game overall feels like a cheap add-on for the Source engine.TeTr1C said:
Granted the game and the AI director are great things which I hope to see in future games... but for me, I'm waiting for a $29.99 on this one before jumping in since I've still got Dead Space to get through as well as regular TF2 time.
I know what you mean. I jsut recently watched all the Romero Dead movies and read The Walking Dead.wayward archer said:
I plan on reading World War Z and the Zombie Survival Guide soon.
This game is my number one this year. I"ve got GOW 2 but I know I'm putting it aside come Monday.
Also I like Night of the Living Dead the best. I Cheered Ben punches Barbara.
"They're coming to get you Barbra."
So awesome.
IronicallyTwisted
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TheGreatDave said:
I have both (Left4Dead on the PC) but I don't think its as clear cut as you are making out.
VictimOfGrief
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So Bioshock is just a mod?Ferrio said:
Seriously though, it feels like a beefed up Counter-Strike Source add-on, mod whatever you want to call it. It does what it does well, but it's not ground breaking like everyone has made it out to be.
IronicallyTwisted
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Ferrio said:
It doesn't look or feel like Half Life 2, the comment doesn't make sense on any level.
VictimOfGrief said:
How is the game similar to Counter Strike? Like, in any dimension? They are both based on the Source engine, thats where the similarities end. Bioshock is a mod according to your reasoning, not his.
Giganticus
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basically, some people have never played other valve games apart from counterstrike. but are too sad and lonely to actually try playing counterstrike without bots. thus this seems like a counterstrike mod to them.Won said:
GhostRidah
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thanks!ThaiGrocer said:
ThaiGrocer
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Don't worry. The price for Valve games drop quick. Hopefully Black Friday will yield you a good price. Some people that preordered from amazon got the game for $32 (PC Version).VictimOfGrief said:
Stoney Mason
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jag0 said:
They are almost wholly different experiences with very little room for comparison outside of the fact that a person might prefer one over the other.
Jedeye Sniv
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Gino said:
You may also be interest in a recent UK TV show called Dead Set. It's about fast zombies invading the UK Big Brother house and it's fucking awesome. It's written by Charlie Brooker, a TV-critic/satirist but it's a full-on balls to the wall zombie movie with amazing gore, great direction and a really scathing look at media culture. Well worth a watch for anyone that likes zombies, even yanks (don't give me any rubbish about not being able to understand our accents either, we watch enough american stuff here - share!).
GhostRidah
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I love them both myself, but L4D edges out GoW2 for me because im just a big zombie buff and I can wait for the mods like dawn of the dead map, slow zombies, head shot only kill zombies and every other thing they can do.IronicallyTwisted said:
GhostRidah
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yea Dead Set is great I plan to watch that and Day/Dawn of the Dead again come monday to get me ready for the zombie outbreak.Costanza said:
If you like to read you have to get The Walking Dead comics, must read material.
vultureparade
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For everyone who's not really feeling the Left 4 Dead demo, I suggest playing it on Expert with three actual friends. Talking on Ventrilo or something is pretty much required as the in game voice doesn't really cut it.
The game shines when four excellent players with good communication are battling the Director AI just to make it to the end of the level. I can't think of a better coop experience. Versus mode is going to be ridiculously fun and challenging.
The game shines when four excellent players with good communication are battling the Director AI just to make it to the end of the level. I can't think of a better coop experience. Versus mode is going to be ridiculously fun and challenging.
Giganticus
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i think me and drake (mainly drake) just griefed crushed off a server with z_spawn tank x20 while rushing for the end using just medpack
ThaiGrocer
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Finally, somebody got dustbowl into L4D. l4d_dustbowl
Companion Cube
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vultureparade said:
I've never noticed anything wrong with the in game voice chat at all.
VictimOfGrief
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Won said:
This is all based on opinion and I'll do my best to explain it.
Left 4 Dead feels hallow. What I mean by that is it's your classic run from point A to point B while making sure everyone survives with or without ammo, med packs or bombs. The gameplay (to me anyways) is only fun if you're playing it with people you know on chat. You truly get some 'oh shit' moments and the fun is based on the fact that you know the people that you're playing with.
Now... digging deeper. The guns, feel like they're straight out of Counter-Strike. The sounds... to me anyways... not that great and probably recycled or tweaked.
Interface wise... I can't tell if Valve was simply going for a "themed" batch of Source based games (ala CS:S, TF2, etc) with the interface-- but it isn't exactly "Fresh" to me.
Experience wise, the game is different each time which I credit to the AI director. Group I was with last night had about 5-8 runs where it was different each time. Again, Kudos to them for that because that does give the game replay value.
To me it's the overall feel of the game... interface and everything else that says to me.... "This was a product from Turtle Rock who had worked heavily with the Counter-Strike series... took that type of engine, added Zombies to the mix and changed up the gameplay."
What I mean by it feels like an "add-on" or a mod is that it's not a stand alone product like CoD3 vs. CoD4 is if that makes any sense.
Oldschoolgamer
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Giganticus said:
Which is funny, because the actual zombie mod for counterstrike plays nothing like this. lol