The Official Left 4 Dead Thread

I think i'm finally starting to get the hang of playing as the Tank. Incapacitated 3 out of the 4 survivors last time, sadly the other booked it to the safe room.
 
ToyMachine228 said:
I originally planned ONLY to play Left 4 Dead on Expert after playing the demo, but it hasn't turned out that way. Now my goal is to finish ONE of the campaigns on Expert:lol

keep it up, i couldn't imagine playing the campaigns any other way now.
 
Amir0x said:
yes, but not even close to high settings. My 360 runs it much better, and I need visuals.

mine either, and L4D still looks a hell of a lot better on my PC than it does on xbox. keyboard mouse controls also > 360 controls (obviously).

i own te 360 version and im glad i got it. its awesome, really. its just difficult to not prefer the PC version.
 
I was originally planning on doing co-op on expert, but the day it was released I did most of the campaign on advanced. Then I started playing versus and haven't looked back (tried a couple randoms here and there.)

In fact, I was just playing playing a couple of single-player stages on Advanced that I'd never seen before.
 
dionysus said:
Also, I am pretty sure that meleeing the tank doesn't always get you aggro.

can someone explain what this means?

man i was having a really hard time against the tanks in expert last night. i got killed by every one that spawned except for one. i was trying to run a lot, but they always seemed to catch up. those things are hard on expert.
 
Daigoro said:
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can someone explain what this means?

man i was having a really hard time against the tanks in expert last night. i got killed by every one that spawned except for one. i was trying to run a lot, but they always seemed to catch up. those things are hard on expert.
Aggro is a term from MMO which basically refers to the attention of an enemy. Basically, it's being said that on expert, you can't get the attention of a tank off of someone else by bashing them.

Edit: In the match I played last night, the tanks loved to kill me and I loved to be killed by the tanks.
 
I'll be steaming it up later tonight if some other people want to join up.

I will beat No Mercy on advanced damn it. :lol

Keep on getting to The Last Stand but can't finish it off!
 
crowphoenix said:
Aggro is a term from MMO which basically refers to the attention of an enemy. Basically, it's being said that on expert, you can't get the attention of a tank off of someone else by bashing them.

Edit: In the match I played last night, the tanks loved to kill me and I loved to be killed by the tanks.

cool, thanks for the explanation.

tanks are evil.
 
crowphoenix said:
Aggro is a term from MMO which basically refers to the attention of an enemy. Basically, it's being said that on expert, you can't get the attention of a tank off of someone else by bashing them.

Edit: In the match I played last night, the tanks loved to kill me and I loved to be killed by the tanks.

It doesn't always work on advanced either. It seems to be 50-50 for me on advanced. I am starting to think that just standing close might get you aggro, and it has nothing to do with meleeing them.
 
poweld said:
I hope I don't sound arrogant when I say that I am the greatest man in the world at L4D.

I bet that would have been useful last night had you not left the game 24 seconds after it started. >:(
 
Beavertown said:
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

So how do you do it?

That glitch he's talking about is
running all the way back to the safehouse and eventually the tank disappears and you are only left with the infected. keep some pipe bombs for when you need to go back to the boat as the infected usually are spread out since you ran all the way back to the safe house.

I just camp it out in the two small rooms in the house and when its tank time run out and kill him then "try" to make it back to the small rooms. repeat till the boat gets there.
 
fallout said:
Apparently, it doesn't work (as well) on expert.
To be exact, even after you start meleeing the tank, he usually swings one more time. And this puts the rescuer in just as much danger as the rescuee, because he'll often turn around to hit the rescuer. And apparently it has like an AoE or something.

I've saved someone ONCE from a tank on expert by meleeing. And I ended up dying in the process. (Got sent flying into the water behind the Death Toll boathouse, to be precise.)
 
I've been playing with some RL friends who don't like playing in public games online, mostly due to bad experiences in the past with other games involving getting berated for being inexerpienced, as a result we end up playing with the AI a lot.

It's getting to the point where I can't stand playing with the bots. They are technically a lot more competent than probably 99% of players that i've played with, but i'll take 3 random human players over 1 friend and 2 bots or even 2 friends and 1 bot any day of the week. The bots are just so lifeless and I feel so disconnected from them and have no motivation to try and work with them, and it seems like such a waste to not let someone else in on the fun.

I'm slowly trying to get my friends to make our games public to let random people in, but years of dealing with assholes on the internet have hardened them to the idea. I think i'm beginning to crack their shells, though.

I will say that both the 360 and PC communities for this game have been awesome. The (mostly versus) games I have gotten in on with other GAF players have been especially fun.
 
wayward archer said:
I've been playing with some RL friends who don't like playing in public games online, mostly due to bad experiences in the past with other games involving getting berated for being inexerpienced, as a result we end up playing with the AI a lot.

It's getting to the point where I can't stand playing with the bots. They are technically a lot more competent than probably 99% of players that i've played with, but i'll take 3 random human players over 1 friend and 2 bots or even 2 friends and 1 bot any day of the week. The bots are just so lifeless and I feel so disconnected from them and have no motivation to try and work with them, and it seems like such a waste to not let someone else in on the fun.

I'm slowly trying to get my friends to make our games public to let random people in, but years of dealing with assholes on the internet have hardened them to the idea. I think i'm beginning to crack their shells, though.

I will say that both the 360 and PC communities for this game have been awesome. The (mostly versus) games I have gotten in on with other GAF players have been especially fun.

we need to get some games in. ive had you on my 360 list since Castle Crashers, but we've never been able to succesfully start a game together.

when do you usually play what versions of L4D and whats your Steam ID?
 
Davidion said:
I bet that would have been useful last night had you not left the game 24 seconds after it started. >:(

Didn't leave, the client supposedly "lost connection"... twice. No clue what was actually happening.

I hope you barfed on Shlee for me.
 
hell yeah play with me and daigoro. it is almost impossible to suck worse than me at PC FPS, so there's no way you'll feel bad.
 
Daigoro said:
mine either, and L4D still looks a hell of a lot better on my PC than it does on xbox. keyboard mouse controls also > 360 controls (obviously).

i own te 360 version and im glad i got it. its awesome, really. its just difficult to not prefer the PC version.

I don't see how L4D would look better on my PC than it does on my 360, considering Orange Box looks better on my 360 than on my PC :P
 
Ahh FUCK

I accidentally installed Left 4 Dead onto my BROTHERS Steam Account. Fuck Fuck Fuck.

Can I do anything about this at all?
 
fallengorn said:
Meleeing a tank seems to work for me. Two or three hits and he starts coming after me.
It always works on advanced for me. But not on expert. Sometimes I hit a tank five times, it turns around, I back off like five feet, it roars, tries to hit me, somehow kills the dude behind it, then FINALLY chases me.
 
poweld said:
Didn't leave, the client supposedly "lost connection"... twice. No clue what was actually happening.

I hope you barfed on Shlee for me.

Of course!

And then I got jumped by a hunter and none of my teammates helped me for a cool 15+hits while standing right next to me, so I decided that it was time to leave.
 
Rlan said:
Ahh FUCK

I accidentally installed Left 4 Dead onto my BROTHERS Steam Account. Fuck Fuck Fuck.

Can I do anything about this at all?

You could email Steam support, but not likely.

That really sucks :lol
 
Amir0x said:
I don't see how L4D would look better on my PC than it does on my 360, considering Orange Box looks better on my 360 than on my PC :P

ok, you have a really shitty PC then. :(

Rlan said:
Ahh FUCK

I accidentally installed Left 4 Dead onto my BROTHERS Steam Account. Fuck Fuck Fuck.

Can I do anything about this at all?

egads, that sucks. contact Steam support ASAP. hopefully they can do something.
 
Rlan said:
Ahh FUCK

I accidentally installed Left 4 Dead onto my BROTHERS Steam Account. Fuck Fuck Fuck.

Can I do anything about this at all?

Take a pic of the CD key and send the image to Steam support. Ask them to reset the key. They should oblige.
 
EclipseGST said:
That glitch he's talking about is
running all the way back to the safehouse and eventually the tank disappears and you are only left with the infected. keep some pipe bombs for when you need to go back to the boat as the infected usually are spread out since you ran all the way back to the safe house.

I just camp it out in the two small rooms in the house and when its tank time run out and kill him then "try" to make it back to the small rooms. repeat till the boat gets there.



No, that couldn't be it. Because then you'd be forced to deal with 3 tanks at the same time, once you start making your run back.

But whatever, guess we'll have to do it the hard way, since he's being a little bitch and won't answer anyone.
 
someone showed me how to avoid the apartments in No Mercy by jumping off the roof onto an AC external duct. You lose most of your hp, though.

The last guy to jump missed the duct and landed in the alley :lol
 
Facism said:
someone showed me how to avoid the apartments in No Mercy by jumping off the roof onto an AC external duct. You lose most of your hp, though.

The last guy to jump missed the duct and landed in the alley :lol

That shortcut is key, but supposedly it's harder to do in Versus, or not even possible. I've never tried in Versus, but it works fine in Campaign.
 
Facism said:
someone showed me how to avoid the apartments in No Mercy by jumping off the roof onto an AC external duct. You lose most of your hp, though.

The last guy to jump missed the duct and landed in the alley :lol
You can have 86hp left if you do it right. Run, don't jump, crouch at the right time.
 
Amir0x said:
I don't see how L4D would look better on my PC than it does on my 360, considering Orange Box looks better on my 360 than on my PC :P
Amir0x don't. 360 players arguing visual/gameplay superiority to the PC is to the point where it's like Wii owners arguing core game library superiority over the 360; Bunch of nonsense. Just continue using the comfy couch argument and keep moving because the gap is only going to become wider every 6 months to the point where the 360 will start receiving stripped and ported down PC games (i.e. Doom3, HL2 on Xbox). Right now you can buy a rig that could blow away the 360 for around the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite. Oh and Steam>XBL :P.
 
Shaheed79 said:
Amir0x don't. 360 players arguing visual/gameplay superiority to the PC is to the point where it's like Wii owners arguing core game library superiority over the 360; Bunch of nonsense. Just continue using the comfy couch argument and keep moving because the gap is only going to become wider every 6 months to the point where the 360 will start receiving stripped and ported down PC games (i.e. Doom3, HL2 on Xbox). Right now you can buy a rig that could blow away the 360 for around the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite. Oh and Steam>XBL :P.

Can we please not turn this thread into a console vs pc thread and just continue to talk about the game?
 
Shaheed79 said:
Amir0x don't. 360 players arguing visual/gameplay superiority to the PC is to the point where it's like Wii owners arguing core game library superiority over the 360; Bunch of nonsense. Just continue using the comfy couch argument and keep moving because the gap is only going to become wider every 6 months to the point where the 360 will start receiving stripped and ported down PC games (i.e. Doom3, HL2 on Xbox). Right now you can buy a rig that could blow away the 360 for around the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite. Oh and Steam>XBL :P.

...or perhaps he just meant his PC is shit and couldn't run L4D on a comparable level to the 360 version?

Anyway, still loving this game. Best online game I've ever played :-)
 
Beavertown said:
No, that couldn't be it. Because then you'd be forced to deal with 3 tanks at the same time, once you start making your run back.

But whatever, guess we'll have to do it the hard way, since he's being a little bitch and won't answer anyone.

You did see the rock thing we mentioned earlier, right? There's no need for any "hard way" on the Death Toll finale. :D
 
Shaheed79 said:
Amir0x don't. 360 players arguing visual/gameplay superiority to the PC is to the point where it's like Wii owners arguing core game library superiority over the 360; Bunch of nonsense. Just continue using the comfy couch argument and keep moving because the gap is only going to become wider every 6 months to the point where the 360 will start receiving stripped and ported down PC games (i.e. Doom3, HL2 on Xbox). Right now you can buy a rig that could blow away the 360 for around the same price as an Xbox 360 Elite. Oh and Steam>XBL :P.

I would cry that people today still have such difficulty reading, but it's Shaheed. No surprise there.

My current rig, the one I actually own is worse than my 360. Not that I won't eventually upgrade - I intend to with my taxes - but at the moment, it is inferior and therefore the visual experience is inferior to my 360. As visuals is one of the most important things in gaming to me, I cannot take the downgrade.
 
wayward archer said:
Can we please not turn this thread into a console vs pc thread and just continue to talk about the game?
Yeah the steam teasing was a bit much I guess. This isn't the topic to discuss it.

As much as my friends and I love this game my friends agree with me that L4D campaign is extremely repetitive. The highly addictive versus modes saves this game for me and adding split-screen to the PC version was a stroke of genius on Valves part. I wish more developers would do this.
 
Holy shit, finally!

I beat No Mercy on Expert, completely solo. :lol

The finale was so fucking hard with the AI, I'm the only one who survived at the end because I just shot down the last team mate when I was in the heli.
 
Red Scarlet said:
Was that when we played? I don't remember getting set on fire. I do remember
l4d_hospital03_sewers0006.jpg


Both Rogue and I got sucked into the lift and couldn't get out without being shot to death. :lol

I saw the exact opposite view (Francis's teeth and reverse face instead of my face/teeth).

But yeah, when we were on the roof, I ended up setting the world on fire... and by "world", I mean you. In my defense, though, I was aiming for the tank :) And then sanjay saved me just as the chopper was getting there and he got butchered in the process... made it by the skin of our teeth. awesome.

EDIT: I love your qoute: "I see bills teeth."
 
Amir0x said:
I would cry that people today still have such difficulty reading, but it's Shaheed. No surprise there.

My current rig, the one I actually own is worse than my 360. Not that I won't eventually upgrade - I intend to with my taxes - but at the moment, it is inferior and therefore the visual experience is inferior to my 360. As visuals is one of the most important things in gaming to me, I cannot take the downgrade.
I thought you were trying to start some stuff Amir0x so I apologize for misinterpreting your comments. I just detest the hypocrisy of people who put such a big importance on graphics and framerates and protest weaker consoles yet they continue to settle for inferior versions of simultaneous releases of cross platform games. I was somewhat guilty of this graphics whore sin until gaming rigs became highly affordable.

Anyway back to the game. The only legit gameplay comparison I can see is during split-screen mode that whoever uses the 360 pad can never match the accuracy and kill count of whoever is using the keyboard and mouse no matter what combination of weapons we use. This makes me understand why cross PC/Console gaming was never really pursued further than Shadowrun.
 
Just received my 360 + L4D yesterday. Hoping to start playing after I finish my essays for finals. Sort of a personal incentive to get things done. :D

[edit] Are there consistent NeoGaf games going? None of my friends have a 360 or L4D :(
 
freshair said:
Just received my 360 + L4D yesterday. Hoping to start playing after I finish my essays for finals. Sort of a personal incentive to get things done. :D

[edit] Are there consistent NeoGaf games going? None of my friends have a 360 or L4D :(

I'm usually on, and will be later tonight. Add me.

GT: Josef Redbead
 
Shaheed79 said:
I thought you were trying to start some stuff Amir0x so I apologize for misinterpreting your comments. I just detest the hypocrisy of people who put such a big importance on graphics and framerates and protest weaker consoles yet they continue to settle for inferior versions of simultaneous releases of cross platform games. I was somewhat guilty of this graphics whore sin until gaming rigs became highly affordable.

Anyway back to the game. The only legit gameplay comparison I can see is during split-screen mode that whoever uses the 360 pad can never match the accuracy and kill count of whoever is using the keyboard and mouse no matter what combination of weapons we use. This makes me understand why cross PC/Console gaming was never really pursued further than Shadowrun.

Yeah and you should know me, the ONLY WAY I'd settle for the 360 version of any PC game is because my PC runs it worse.

This whole year I've been waiting for my tax returns to get my new PC :D
 
-Rogue5- said:
But yeah, when we were on the roof, I ended up setting the world on fire... and by "world", I mean you. In my defense, though, I was aiming for the tank :) And then sanjay saved me just as the chopper was getting there and he got butchered in the process... made it by the skin of our teeth. awesome.

I was the human pipe bomb once I got boomered on after picking you up. It's like the A.I director goes after the people who rescue the incapacitated.
 
Anyone up for an Expert run right now? Or a closed VS game?

So I found that adjusting the Game Volume slider also affects Voice chat, which still doesn't help me and my loud gun problems.

Is it normal for there to be no pipe bombs or Molly's in the finale of Blood Harvest(Expert)? I mean no where, not the farm house, barn, hay stack or shack. Tried a bunch of times earlier with both teammates (pubs, ugh) and AI. Just couldn't handle the second tank without being able to ignite.
 
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