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[BSsBrolly]

Lol, time for the excuses from Penn to start. Fuck him, I hate him more and more every time he fights...

 

[Sinatar]

OMG, do you think there's any chance this gets turned into a No Contest after the fact?

Since the commissioners were there and saw it during the fight without ending it or docking points, I don't think so.

 

[sefskillz]

And why are people saying BJ quit? Wasn't it a doctor recommended ref. stoppage/TKO? It was loud but I remember reading TKO when GSP's hand was raised.

The official decision was ref stoppage, but if you watch the clip you can see BJ's corner man (his brother I think) yell at the doctor as he was walking away and then made a motion waving his hand by his throat, as if to say 'he's done'.

Impressed with GSP, disappointed as hell by the fight.

 

[akachan ningen]

B.J. Penn's camp has filed a formal complaint with the Nevada State Athletic Commission over Vaseline that was allegedly rubbed on Georges St. Pierre's back between rounds one and two. UFC president Dana White said at the post-fight press conference that he was aware of the complaint, and said he personally witnessed members of the commission take the Vaseline away from GSP's camp and rebuke them in the Octagon between rounds.

"I saw the commission jump up there and flipping out," said Dana White. They said one of the guys was rubbing Vaseline on Georges' back in between rounds. It was one and two, I think."

"The guys from the athletic commission went up there and started screaming at them. Knocked the Vaseline and kicked the Vaseline out of the Octagon."

White added that "some Vaseline on a guy's back didn't change the outcome of that fight, but you don't do it," and said the blame should fall on the cornerman responsible and not GSP.

"If a guy was intentionally putting Vaseline on a guy's back, he should never corner a mixed martial arts fight again."

As for what becomes of the complaint now, White said it's out of his hands.

"Who knows. That's up to the commission."

How can Penn fans possibly spin this? He's being a baby and a sore loser.

 

[Spider Silva]

How can Penn fans possibly spin this? He's being a baby and a sore loser.

Ugh, thats lame. That's not near as serious as when "Sugar" Shane Mosely beat Antonio Margarito last week, and Mosely said he saw Margarito's handlers put some type of plaster over his tape for loaded gloves.

St Pierre and Silva now need to have THE superfight. Who moves to which weight though, or do they just split the difference? Or hell, make it like the old UFC days and let them fight at whatever weight they are comfortable with, and make it 5 rounds or Grand Prix "Gracie rules" style. I would love to see that.

On a side note, I read 90 plus year old Helio Gracie died today or yesterday. One of the forefathers of the martial art that is the crux of mixed martial arts today.

 

[Arde5643]

Wow @ Penn's camp comment - that will surely convince people watching the fight that BJ still had something big to win the fight. :lol :lol :lol

Also :lol @ people in the thread proclaiming that GSP will beat A. Silva easily - with such obvious weight differences, huge reach advantage, much superior striking techniques and KO power all favoring Silva - you gotta be kidding me if you think this is anywhere a good match-up for GSP.

Remember, in this fight Penn was the shorter, lighter, and weaker fighter - not the other way around.

I can see GSP killing some of the MW fighters easily, but A. Silva will be a tough uphill battle.

 

[Aidsdia]

Wow @ Penn's camp comment - that will surely convince people watching the fight that BJ still had something big to win the fight. :lol :lol :lol

Also :lol @ people in the thread proclaiming that GSP will beat A. Silva easily - with such obvious weight differences, huge reach advantage, much superior striking techniques and KO power all favoring Silva - you gotta be kidding me if you think this is anywhere a good match-up for GSP.

Remember, in this fight Penn was the shorter, lighter, and weaker fighter - not the other way around.

I can see GSP killing some of the MW fighters easily, but A. Silva will be a tough uphill battle.

GSP Cuts a large amount of weight himself, and after seeing how Cote was pressuring Silva I personally think GSP could do just as well if not better. He may not win, but he won't be a pushover like most of the MW division is. I wish the UFC would hurry up and put Maia against Silva, I think that would be a lot more interesting than his upcoming opponent.

 

[skyfinch]

GSP's camp even rubbed vaseline all over the mat because BJ kept on slipping and GSP kept landing on top of him. What kind of frigging riddum is someone supposed to archive when you cheat like this?

 

[Sinatar]

 

[akachan ningen]

ah, I could watch that forever.

 

[Arde5643]

GSP Cuts a large amount of weight himself, and after seeing how Cote was pressuring Silva I personally think GSP could do just as well if not better. He may not win, but he won't be a pushover like most of the MW division is. I wish the UFC would hurry up and put Maia against Silva, I think that would be a lot more interesting than his upcoming opponent.

If by Cote pressuring Silva you mean how Silva was dancing around while Cote was unable to create anything worthy to be called of a threat to Silva, then yes we agree that Cote was pressuring Silva.

And yes, I also agree that GSP would be a much better opponent than Cote - no arguments there.

 

[Rentahamster]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

Oh well, I like GSP too so it's not that bad. I just wish BJ didn't go out like such a little bitch. Total domination. Bitter tears for the entire state of Hawaii! :lol

 

[mrbagdt]

i think i need to start making two picks- i need to bold the fighter that my head says is going to win and italicize the fighter that i am going to be cheering for. my picks have been horrible!

 

[op_ivy]

Pure Joy.

I could watch GSP goon BJ Penn all goddamn day. That was fucking glorious.

Also incredibly happy for my boy Machida. Haters can eat a dick, he's the fucking man.

so very much agreed.
!

also, i LOVE that BJ quit after all that shit talking he did about calling GSP a quitter. fucking asshole. i want to go to BJPENN.COM to see his busted up face

 

[Bishman]

BJ Penn is still one of the best. I think the fight shows that there is a weight class for a reason. Dana White and the UFC needs to stop all these p4p fights. It is stupid in my opinion. Let the fighters stay at their own weight class and become legends there. I really don't want to see GSP vs Silva. Let GSP rule the WW division, same for BJ with the LW division.

 

[Future PhaZe]

You don't say shit about that loss to GSP. You admit you got beat and move on and hope KenFlo doesn't surrpise you. BJ got dominated in a way that you just don't come back from. His guard was completely destroyed in every way and he was crushed in the standup as well. Don't even suggest a rematch or that you had a chance to win.

 

[op_ivy]

how were the undercard fights? they up yet?

also, i hope this puts the machida hate to rest. he looks sharp as hell, never understood the hate. the way he retreats then INSTANTLY moves forward and strikes is exciting as hell to watch, hes got terrific trips, and hes just a really talented guy. there is no one else in the ufc that fights like him, that in and of itself makes the guy a treat to watch everytime IMO.

 

[Shaheed79]

Why exactly did BJ want to fight GSP so bad anyway? I mean did he really think he could tool a guy who walks around at 185 with his sort of athleticism? I'd be more interested in a GSP/Silva fight personally but even then I think GSP would have too much body fat to stand a chance.

 

[Future PhaZe]

I don't understand when people cry about "retreating" in a CAGE of all places. If you want to stop a guy from running, YOU CAN. Just be prepared for the swift counter.

 

[Bishman]

You don't say shit about that loss to GSP. You admit you got beat and move on and hope KenFlo doesn't surrpise you. BJ got dominated in a way that you just don't come back from. His guard was completely destroyed in every way and he was crushed in the standup as well. Don't even suggest a rematch or that you had a chance to win.

BJ has the skills but he was way too small for WW. He came in at 168. GSP came in at 170 then when he re hydrates probably walks around like 180. Everyone saw how GSP muscled BJ Penn to the fence and tired him out.

Like I said before, BJ has the skills but his dream of fighting in all weight classes is over. He will get out muscled, and is too small. Randy even agrees.

 

[riskVSreward]

I thought it was hilarious how BJ was saying he had the mental edge going into this. Yeah, he looked calm coming down for the fight, he looked prepared, but it's obvious he didn't train as hard as GSP. I firmly believe that GSP's KO loss to Serra humbled him, and ever since then he has improved his mental game tremendously. I told all of my friends GSP would take it in the 4th, but I had no idea it would be that one sided.

I hope BJ has been training my boy Lauzon better than he trains himself, I met him twice before when he was dating a girl that I graduated HS with. He's a little weird but he's crazy talented, he moved to Hawaii to train with BJ full time and we all will see how dominate he can be next week. I knew he couldn't' beat Florian a few months back, but hopefully he learned from it and is now training his ass off... and hopefully BJ is actually putting him to work.

Also, I have been saying this for as long as I can remember, Machida is p4p top 5 in the world. I was honestly expecting a decision but I was thrilled to see him dominate Thiago and finish at the end of round 1. He made Silva look like a fucking joke, which we all know he isn't, but this reaffirms my belief that the fighter with the greater strategy and tactics will always beat the more powerful hitter. Brains over brawn and whatnot.

Jon Jones is nasty. NASTY. He has a bright future for sure.

I'm happy Clay pulled out a win, he's just crazy dedicated and deserved it last night. I also was glad Karo won even though he has an ego bigger than Matt Hughes... I still respect him.

Overall great card, well worth the money.

 

[Daigoro]

wow. all of the fighters i wanted to win did! highly unusual.

GSP, Machida, and Guida!

also, i hope this puts the machida hate to rest. he looks sharp as hell, never understood the hate.

couldnt agree more. ive enjoyed every fight of his that ive seen. never understood the hate, the guy is amazing.

 

[Arde5643]

BJ has the skills but he was way too small for WW. He came in at 168. GSP came in at 170 then when he re hydrates probably walks around like 180. Everyone saw how GSP muscled BJ Penn to the fence and tired him out.

Like I said before, BJ has the skills but his dream of fighting in all weight classes is over. He will get out muscled, and is too small. Randy even agrees.

Pretty much - BJ is without the doubt the best in his own weight class and he can tool a lot of WW fighters without much sweat. However, should it come to taking the best P4P fighter in the WW division, it's an uphill battle as evidenced by the fight last night.

That's why superfights between the best of different weight classes are pointless since the lower weight fighters face uphill battles. The differences in weight, reach, and strength alone ensures that the lower weight fighters have to have much much much more skill over the heavier fighters.

In other words, superfights between Fedor v Silva, or Silva v GSP is a fool's pipe dream since it will almost be a suicide match for the lower weight fighers.

 

[WickedAngel]

Vaseline is some amazing shit.

I'm going to go dab some on so I can fuck my girlfriend and 3 her of closest friends for 12 hours straight.

 

[skyfinch]

".......................he's DEAD!" - Yves

 

[dem]

Fight went as expected..

GSP is just too big.

 

[dem]

btw.. the greasing up for a fight is as serious as as using steroids.. imo.

Look how BJ was neutralizing GSP with his rubber guard in the first round.
Now surely thats harder to do in later rounds with the sweat.. but add grease to that and its impossible.

I like GSP.. but thats awful.
GSP is a cheater

 

[SnakeXs]

Also, nobody's really mentioned this much:

I guess it would be a bigger issue of Boner looked great before that and like shit after, but still.

 

[I_D]

I just got around to watching it, and WOW at GSP and John Jones.

GSP is still the best, of course, but I was very impressed at Jones. He could go places if he keeps that up and works on cardio.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

i was actually wondering about that and nobody mentioned if it was potentially an illegal hit. I think because Bonnar was coming forward the contact to the back of the head was incidental. Jones is a crazy athlete though and only 21 years old. If he keeps training and polishing up his skills he can be a beast.

 

[Duelist]

btw.. the greasing up for a fight is as serious as as using steroids.. imo.

Look how BJ was neutralizing GSP with his rubber guard in the first round.
Now surely thats harder to do in later rounds with the sweat.. but add grease to that and its impossible.

I like GSP.. but thats awful.
GSP is a cheater

Yes, because the commission rep didn't spot that and have it removed. If he had felt it was serious enough he could have delayed the fight to have it all rubbed off.

I just find it kinda sad that BJ has resorted to this complaint after having his ass handed to him AFTER talking so much shit. What a pathetic human being.

 

[mileS]

i was actually wondering about that and nobody mentioned if it was potentially an illegal hit. I think because Bonnar was coming forward the contact to the back of the head was incidental. Jones is a crazy athlete though and only 21 years old. If he keeps training and polishing up his skills he can be a beast.

Yea Jones has quite the future ahead of him. It was pretty amazing watching him throw Bonnar around like it was nothing considering how big that guy is. Can't wait to see more from him.

Super happy with GSP's total domination. Also i'm happy to see Machida get some respect that he deserves. Lots of people call him a boring fighting but how can you honestly say that after last night? I personally love watching him fight.

 

[Sinatar]

All I could think during the Jones fight was how small his calfs were. I mean seriously, it's all bone below his thigh, looks really weird.

Maybe that's where he got the nickname "Bones" from.

 

[riskVSreward]

All I could think during the Jones fight was how small his calfs were. I mean seriously, it's all bone below his thigh, looks really weird.

Maybe that's where he got the nickname "Bones" from.

He's got sharp legs.

 

[BladeWorker]

Yea Jones has quite the future ahead of him. It was pretty amazing watching him throw Bonnar around like it was nothing considering how big that guy is. Can't wait to see more from him.

Agreed, but what some saw as "unconventional" I saw as "lacking technique". I think the fight could have finished a lot sooner if he'd had a wee bit more formal training.

 

[mileS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaaO9wvwLOM for anyone that missed it. :lol oh Bonnar

 

[I_D]

btw.. the greasing up for a fight is as serious as as using steroids.. imo.

Look how BJ was neutralizing GSP with his rubber guard in the first round.
Now surely thats harder to do in later rounds with the sweat.. but add grease to that and its impossible.

I like GSP.. but thats awful.
GSP is a cheater

:lol


Come on. EVERY fighter does that.

 

[Spinning Plates]

 

[Timedog]

somebody HAS to tell me the song thiago came out to. it sounded so weird and awesome.

 

[riskVSreward]

Agreed, but what some saw as "unconventional" I saw as "lacking technique". I think the fight could have finished a lot sooner if he'd had a wee bit more formal training.

Well he tended to attack out of disadvantageous situations, I'd call it unconventional if not a little unwise. His kicks came out of no where and he always caught Bonner off guard.

Time will tell.

 

[Brian Fellows]

 

[y2dvd]

Dana, give Ryu a fuckin title shot already.

 

[Sinatar]

Dana, give Ryu a fuckin title shot already.

From the press conference it looks like the Jardine vs. Jackson fight is going to determine the title picture. If Jackson wins, he gets first crack at it then Machida. If Jardine wins then Machida gets the shot.

 

[SnakeXs]

From the press conference it looks like the Jardine vs. Jackson fight is going to determine the title picture. If Jackson wins, he gets first crack at it then Machida. If Jardine wins then Machida gets the shot.

Either way Evans is lookin' at a whole nother level of competition. No permanent (1 title defense) belt for him, please.

 

[Spinning Plates]

somebody HAS to tell me the song thiago came out to. it sounded so weird and awesome.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvxSkD4KNY

 

[bigmit3737]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvxSkD4KNY

:lol :lol I like this song too.

I also like BJ's entrance song.

 

[Future PhaZe]

Wow "GSP accused of cheating" is on the front page of Yahoo.

WTF.

This shit is overblown. And previous fighters are now coming out and saying GSP was greased up in previous losses. I'm losing respect for a LOT of guys now.

 

[Sinatar]

Funny how all these folks he beat in the past all of a sudden feel the need to come out.

Oh... Oh yea. Yea he was totally greasy when he beat my ass 4 years ago.

 

[perryfarrell]

Jon Jones' fight (or whatever his name is) was awesome.

Supplexes, spinning back 'elbows'--insane

 

[Grecco]

BJ Penn is a joke. Hope Kenflo beats him now.