The Official Usain Bolt ballwashing thread
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This if so factually wrong it's hilarious.littleorphanfunk said:
There was never an decathlete in the modern age that was able to reach the final in the majority of events, let alone earning a medal.
Check your facts, the world record score in decathalon would've earned the athlete one final appearance in Beijing and no medals what so ever.
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MrHicks said:
There is, sorta. Black people generally have a higher ratio of fast-twitch muscle fiber to slow-twitch muscle fiber. Fast-twitch is more suited to explosive movement, with slow-twitch more specialized for endurance. Blacks tend to have longer legs, too (for greater stride).
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Leckan said:
Last year he said that there are no major championships in 2010 so he's going to consider going for the 400m then.
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-COOLIO- said:
He's said that training for the 400m is really hard and that's the main reason that he hasn't done it much. Michael Johnson has said that he thinks that Bolt can break the 400m record, so we'll see if Bolt decides to go for it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACTN3MrHicks said:
ForzaItalia
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Imagine him running with the most legally allowed tailwind and above sea level...:lol
Lucius86 said:
That's a given. I fully expect to see Bolt run that in 3-4 years. If you look at where other sprinters were at 22-23 to where they are at 26-27, their times are probably 2 tenths of a second better. There's no real way to extrapolate what Bolt can do, but would be interesting to see how Gay's times were at 22-23 since he's running 9.71 now. I can easily see Bolt doing 9.35 at the next Olympics if he continues like this with no injury.
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If Bolt can clean up his start then he's going to he'll definitely hit 9.4 and possibly a 9.3. That's his weakest point.
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SolidSnakex said:
Before, that was the case but today he was on fire. His start in that race was probably the best in the field. However, I don't he was in the best shape he could be so yeah, no one's gonna be catching him for a long time to come.
People will be trumpeting the fact he took .11 off the record in only 1 year but I just realized he really didn't improve that much from last year. He would have run this time at the Olympics had he not started chest-pumping and lowering his arms after 70 meters. :lol
Come to think of it he probably ran faster at the Olympics. He had a better start this year which helped his time and he ran full out the whole race. Some professor analyzed last year's race and suggested he would have run 9.55 without the chest pumping at the end. I guess he was probably right.
Come to think of it he probably ran faster at the Olympics. He had a better start this year which helped his time and he ran full out the whole race. Some professor analyzed last year's race and suggested he would have run 9.55 without the chest pumping at the end. I guess he was probably right.
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bathhouseterror said:
And yet the best /marathon/ athletes are from Africa: Kenya, in particular.
littleorphanfunk
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Just following pole vault, I am not factually wrong.Chichikov said:
I'm sorry what?littleorphanfunk said:
You said that decathletes can earn a medal in most of their events, how's the fact that there might been few competitors who got good scores at a single event support that claim?
I'm not aware of a decathlete who was that good of a pole vaulter (and FWIW, the best score in the decathlon in Beijing was not close to being good enough to make the pole vault final), but it's not the point, there were pretty good decathlete sprinter , that's not what we're arguing about.
littleorphanfunk said:
Thanks to Wikipedia --
Decathlon records:
100m Chris Huffins 10.22 seconds
Long Jump Erki Nool 822 centimeters
Shot Put Edy Hubacher 19.17 meters
High Jump Rolf Beilschmidt & Christian Schenk 227 centimeter
400m Bill Toomey 45.68 seconds
110m Hurdles Frank Busemann 13.47 seconds
Discus Throw Bryan Clay 55.87 meters
Pole Vault Tim Lobinger 576 centimeters
Javelin Throw Peter Blank 79.80 meters
1500m Robert Baker 238.7 seconds
Individual event records:
100m Usain Bolt 9.58 seconds
Long Jump Mike Powell 895 centimeters
Shot Put Randy Barnes 23.12 meters
High Jump Javier Sotomayor 245 centimeters
400m Michael Johnson 43.18 seconds
110m Hurdles Dayron Robles 12.87 seconds
Discus Throw Jürgen Schult 74.08 meters
Pole Vault Sergey Bubka 614 centimeters
Javelin Throw Jan elezný 98.48 meters
1500m Hicham El Guerrouj 206 seconds
Decathlon records come close in ZERO events to the bests in each event.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decathlon#World_records
littleorphanfunk
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Did I say world leading this year? I said decathaletes have posted personal records that would be god enough to win them a medal at most olympics. And the personal best for a decathalete in the vault is like 5.85m which correct me if I'm wrong is higher than the 5.7 m that was good enough for bronze at Beijing.
And don't forget, these scores are from multiple athletes, sure, if you combine all the best decathletes in history into a single person you might be able to make a more compelling argument as to why this theoretical person is the best athlete in history, but that's not really the case, now is it?Manics said:You're dead wrong here according to Wikipedia which is always correct.I just posted world record bests for each decathlon event and they're not medal worthy in the individual events.
Decathletes who are great in strength events usually post embarrassing results (relatively speaking of course) in speed events and vice versa.
Chichikov said:
Yeah you can't say who's the "greatest athlete in history" when the events are so different. I have to agree with the main idea that decathletes are great athletes and they can excel in 10 events, but they're not in line with the best in each event, not even on the podium for any of them..pole vault is the closest.
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Man is the freak of freaks.
Guaranteed he beats that record soon enough. Most likely at the next Olympics.
He's only 22 for fucks sake.
Guaranteed he beats that record soon enough. Most likely at the next Olympics.
He's only 22 for fucks sake.
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Manics said:Loving the foam arms.
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People laughed at his coach a few months ago when he came out and said Bolt could run in the 9.5s.
You gotta pretty naive in this day and age to think these elite athletes aren't using SOMETHING currently illegal. Be it steroids, HGH or whatever new scientific advances in sports medicine they can come up with. I'm in the camp that believes that 99.9% of these guys are on something and I don't care. It's a level playing field since they all know the techniques. The guys that are running clean are the ones that don't make the finals.Nolan. said:
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