The Official Usain Bolt ballwashing thread

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ForzaItalia said:
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:lol :lol :lol
Goosebumbs! :D

Just amazing.

But he can definitely go faster. His form in the last 50-60m was not great. He was rocking quite a bit.

Tiredness stepped in there I think.

If I was running in that race and went under 20s and still came away with no medal......PISSED!! :lol :lol

Originally Posted by Run of Play on Twitter:
Has anyone pointed out that if Bolt hadn't broken the 100m record last week, his 19.19 200m would have been two record 100m's back-to-back?

That is the most crazy thing I have read about athletics ever! :o
 
That photo with the people... its just... fuck. So exciting watching track again. I haven't felt this amped up for stuff since Donovan shocked the world in 1996.
 
ForzaItalia said:
He could retire tomorrow and still be a bigger legend than Johnson ever was. Donovan Bailey exposed Johnson as nothing more than a chump.

I don't agree with the MJ statement, but Bolt has moved the 100 and 200 records down like no one thought was possible. He is already going to be remembered as an icon for these performances, anything else is just icing on the cake.
 
Big-E said:
Donovan shit kicked him in a head to head race.

150m

The race had no meaning. Johnson is still known as the greatest 200/400 meter runner.

Note: I'm talking 200 and 400, until Bolt decides to demolish the 400 record, Johnson still
holds the title.
 
Well, goddamn. That statistic about back-to-back 100m world record runs is absolutely insane. :lol :lol :lol

Also, yes, fuck ESPN for not covering this. It barely appears, a minor headline on the right side.

Edit: LOL at this quote:

Usain Bolt said:
If Queen Elizabeth knighthooded me and I would get the title Sir Usain Bolt, that would be very nice.
 
Bolt is so fucking awesome, I don't think anyone comes close to his awesomeness.

And Bailey>>>>Johnson
 
Michael pulled up lame to save face. He was suppose to dominate the first part of the race but he lost there too. And who cares if it was 150m? Bailey only did the 100m so he was at the disadvantage.
 
Big-E said:
Michael pulled up lame to save face. He was suppose to dominate the first part of the race but he lost there too. And who cares if it was 150m? Bailey only did the 100m so he was at the disadvantage.

I don't know. When I watch the video you can see his leg turn out and him lose form before he pulls up. That suggests to me something did happen, and it wasn't bullshit. Either way he lost.
 
Big-E said:
Michael pulled up lame to save face. He was suppose to dominate the first part of the race but he lost there too. And who cares if it was 150m? Bailey only did the 100m so he was at the disadvantage.

The race was just for fun. The Olympics, World Championships, Golden League meets matter and that's where Johnson was king. The only folks that think Bailey was worth anything are Canucks, but I can't blame them for wanting to claim one decent sprinter.
 
duderon said:
The race was just for fun. The Olympics, World Championships, Golden League meets matter and that's where Johnson was king. The only folks that think Bailey was worth anything are Canucks, but I can't blame them for wanting to claim one decent sprinter.

Only us Canadians think he was worth anything? The man broke the world record at the Olympics while holding the World Championships gold for the previous year as well and was part of the 4x100m team who won gold in both the world championships and the olympics. He must have been one hell of a sprinter if he was the only decent sprinter on the team.
 
Big-E said:
Only us Canadians think he was worth anything? The man broke the world record at the Olympics while holding the World Championships gold for the previous year as well and was part of the 4x100m team who won gold in both the world championships and the olympics. He must have been one hell of a sprinter if he was the only decent sprinter on the team.

Not to mention it was all done on US soil too...
 
Ben Johnson was more than a decent sprinter that the Canadians could claim, too bad his name is mud in the annals of history. It turned out that all top five finishers in the '88 Olympics were on performance-enhancing drugs, and only Johnson was stripped of the gold.
 
:lol @ the Johnson hate. The guy was absolutely incredible. His 200m WR is was probably the greatest track record of all time and no one even got close to it until a freak like Bolt appeared.

Feep said:
Well, goddamn. That statistic about back-to-back 100m world record runs is absolutely insane.

It's also not entirely accurate. The last flying 100m of the 200m is MUCH faster than a 100m sprint. You'd have to get the splits for his 200m run before knowing if he ran faster than 9.69s over the first 100m...he did in Beijing.

His bend today was so incredible, and the last 50m definitely slowed, that I wouldn't be surprised if he ran faster than 9.58 over the first 100m. If he decides to focus just on the 200m for once then I'm sure he can go 18.9* in the coming years. His winning margin was absolutely incredible. The biggest of all time. Into a fucking head-wind!

He's the first man ever to hold the Olympic and World titles in both the 100m and 200m; the first man ever to break both the 100m and 200m records at the Olympics and the World Championships; the first man to break the 100m record 3 times; and he's broken the 100m record by the largest margin since electronic timing was introduced.
 
Big-E said:
Only us Canadians think he was worth anything? The man broke the world record at the Olympics while holding the World Championships gold for the previous year as well and was part of the 4x100m team who won gold in both the world championships and the olympics. He must have been one hell of a sprinter if he was the only decent sprinter on the team.

I thought we were arguing if he was the on the same level or even better than Michael Johnson? MJ's achievements trump Baileys in every conceivable way. Two more Olympic gold medals and five more World Championship golds than Bailey. Bailey was the best 100m sprinter for a year or so. MJ dominated the 200/400 for almost a decade.

MrSardonic said:
It's also not entirely accurate. The last flying 100m of the 200m is MUCH faster than a 100m sprint. You'd have to get the splits for his 200m run before knowing if he ran faster than 9.69s over the first 100m...he did in Beijing.

His bend today was so incredible, and the last 50m definitely slowed, that I wouldn't be surprised if he ran faster than 9.58 over the first 100m. If he decides to focus just on the 200m for once then I'm sure he can go 18.9* in the coming years. His winning margin was absolutely incredible. The biggest of all time.

He's the first man ever to hold the Olympic and World titles in both the 100m and 200m; the first man ever to break both the 100m and 200m records at the Olympics and the World Championships; the first man to break the 100m record 3 times; and he's broken the 100m record by the largest margin since electronic timing was introduced.

Nice stats. Those really put Bolt's achievements in perspective.
 
Can they scientifically explain why he is so much faster than everybody else? Is it his long legs, large pace? muscles firing up faster? Posture?
 
duderon said:
I thought we were arguing if he was the on the same level or even better than Michael Johnson? MJ's achievements trump Baileys in every conceivable way. Two more Olympic gold medals and five more World Championship golds than Bailey. Bailey was the best 100m sprinter for a year or so. MJ dominated the 200/400 for almost a decade.

No i wasn't arguing that their accomplishments were the same just that Bailey was excellent for his brief stint until he got hurt. Michael does have the way better resume and prestige.
 
duderon said:
I thought we were arguing if he was the on the same level or even better than Michael Johnson? MJ's achievements trump Baileys in every conceivable way. Two more Olympic gold medals and five more World Championship golds than Bailey. Bailey was the best 100m sprinter for a year or so. MJ dominated the 200/400 for almost a decade.



This.
 
Pakkidis said:
Can they scientifically explain why he is so much faster than everybody else? Is it his long legs, large pace? muscles firing up faster? Posture?

His stride is definitely longer because of his height and he manages it so well. There was a slo-mo video of Bolt in the 100, where he ran the 9.79 in the rain, and his foot strikes on the ground look nearly perfect. His form is so good he is wasting very little energy, all of it seems focused on getting himself down the track. Also his relaxed style is unreal. If you watched Mo Greene or Gay presently, you'd see they are incredibly tense, where Bolt looks the complete opposite running these mental times.
 
Pakkidis said:
Can they scientifically explain why he is so much faster than everybody else? Is it his long legs, large pace? muscles firing up faster? Posture?



Scientifically?

In about 4 or 5 years they'll know exactly why and how... they'll even have a name for it.



:D


Joking aside, the man is exciting and amazing. I hope it's all on the up and up. If so, he's an all time great athelete already.

Maybe this'll be the begining of a new era for sprinting, where bigs diminate.
 
MrSardonic said:
His bend today was so incredible, and the last 50m definitely slowed, that I wouldn't be surprised if he ran faster than 9.58 over the first 100m. If he decides to focus just on the 200m for once then I'm sure he can go 18.9* in the coming years.

Very true. He looked tired and his form wasn't the greatest coming down the stretch and yet he still ran a 19.19. Insane.

Imagine what he could have ran with enough rest, training and a tailwind.
 
ImperialConquest said:
Maybe this'll be the begining of a new era for sprinting, where bigs diminate.

I was thinking this the other day. Maybe in the past a coach would look at a guy with Bolt's height and say:

"You go over there. You'll be our 400 metre guy".

I get the feeling that won't be happening as much any longer.


Luscious LeftFoot said:
:lol Unbelievable, I'd love to know what the other sprinters are thinking at the very moment.


"Just coming out there, I'm just waiting for the lights to flash 'game over,' 'cause I felt like I was in a video game," said Shawn Crawford, who finished fourth. "That guy was moving — fast."


:lol
 
Johnson is class. He's a brilliant pundit on the BBC.

We've never seen anything like Bolt and we probably never will again. There is no one out there who can beat him. What he has done in the 100m and 200m is so far beyond what anyone else has ever done in the history of athletics. And more than that, his attitude towards the whole thing is both refreshing and staggering.

Who has ever shut down 10m from the line in the Olympic 100m final? Who has ever broken a world record dancing over the line? Who has ever smashed both their own world records almost exactly 1 year after setting them? And all the while he's shadow boxing with other Jamaican athletes and his training partner, throwing dance moves with them, toying with the camera. It's just incredible. He's a role model for people beyond athletics purely because of his attitude - it's positive, it's playful, it's relaxed, it's joyful...but he clearly works incredible hard.

The guy is a sensation. I've never seen elite athletes shaking their head in disbelief in Olympic and World finals; other guys getting beaten by 3m in a 100m and something close to 8m in this 200m; a legend like Michael Johnson screaming "OH MY GOD!" or being left totally speechless by what he has seen.

Yeah, this is pretty special stuff. He's already going down as the undisputed greatest sprinter of all time.
 
Bolt has also been sprinting since he was a teenager, so he's learned how to manage his height. If you were grab some 18 year old of similar stature with sprinting potential, I doubt he would be able to produce times even close to getting him on the world stage, let alone Bolt's level.
 
GSG Flash said:
And Bailey>>>>Johnson

19.32 and 43.18 >>>>>>>>> anything that Bailey has ever achieved. Times count, everything else is bullshit.

What makes Bolt so amazing isn't his 100m performances, it is the 200m. The real test. The fact that he beat squeezed past MJ's time in Beijing at just 22 was stunning. The mere fact that he is likely to go sub 19 seconds for the 200m is mind blowing.

He has a 18.90 in him. I'd say that is being conservative.
 
avaya said:
He has a 18.90 in him. I'd say that is being conservative.

Compare this.

Johnson set his 200m record of 19.32 at 29 and ran the opening 100 in 10.12 seconds.

Bolt set his 19.30 time at 22-23 (his birthday is tomorrow) and likely ran the opening 100m in 9.6.

A sprinter isn't even meant to peak until about 26-27 (like Powell and Gay); Bolt was tired and couldn't sustain his speed over the last 100m; Bolt says he wasn't in as good shape as he was last year; Bolt's technique could do with some refining because he still rocks a bit and has a tendency to lift himself a little too high in the air.

Then you hear Greene saying that Bolt hasn't even learnt how to run the 100m properly yet because he's only been doing it for 2 years.

It's frightening to think how fast he could be in 4 years after he's worked on his technique some more, has mastered the 100m, is in his best shape, and has a chance to run a 200m without being fatigued from the 100m earlier on.

That's why you hear people, serious people in the world of athletics, talking about him running 9.4 in the 100m and 18.9 in the 200m. What if he tries the 400m? I bet the 400m specialists are hoping he doesn't consider it.
 
duderon said:
150m

The race had no meaning. Johnson is still known as the greatest 200/400 meter runner.

Note: I'm talking 200 and 400, until Bolt decides to demolish the 400 record, Johnson still
holds the title.

How is Johnson the greatest 200meter runner when Bolt has demolished his WR and that in a much younger age? 400m I give you, but bolt doesnt even run that.

take off your rosetinted glasses
 
What the fuck with people trying to take away from Bolt's accomplishments? Michael Johnson, Michael Phelps, debate about longevity and medals. For fuck sakes Bolt is the fastest sprinter of all time and he's only 23! Even if he walks away now he'll go down as the greatest of all time. He's setting marks people thought were untouchable while guys in the past were incrementally breaking records --- Bolt destroys records.

I have a huge man crush on this guy and I'm going to imagine him while I'm pounding the wife tonight in celebration.
 
Manics said:
What the fuck with people trying to take away from Bolt's accomplishments? Michael Johnson, Michael Phelps, debate about longevity and medals. For fuck sakes Bolt is the fastest sprinter of all time and he's only 23! Even if he walks away now he'll go down as the greatest of all time

americans?
 
MrSardonic said:
What if he tries the 400m? I bet the 400m specialists are hoping he doesn't consider it.

I get the feeling that after what he did last year and this week, he will be looking for a new challenge.

I say he starts running the 400M next season.
 
MrSardonic said:
Bolt's technique could do with some refining because he still rocks a bit and has a tendency to lift himself a little too high in the air.
This may never go away, it's part of being so tall and being a sprinter, which is traditionally why you didn't see a lot of tall men racing the 100/200m. Obviously Bolt is doing just fine in spite of rocking.
 
darkwings said:
How is Johnson the greatest 200meter runner when Bolt has demolished his WR and that in a much younger age? 400m I give you, but bolt doesnt even run that.

take off your rosetinted glasses
He said 200m and 400m, as in the greatest who ran both.
 
darkwings said:
How is Johnson the greatest 200meter runner when Bolt has demolished his WR and that in a much younger age? 400m I give you, but bolt doesnt even run that.

take off your rosetinted glasses

Say it with me now. 200 and 400. The greatest 200 AND 400 meter runner. The greatest sprinter to run the 200 meters and the 400 meters in the same meet.

Bolt is by far the greatest sprinter in the 100 and 200. Once he decides to run the 400 he will be the most dominate sprinter of all time as well as the greatest.
 
ForzaItalia said:
Wow...some serious praise from a guy who ran the bend like no other.


P.S. Has anyone ever won the 100m 200m and 400m at an Olympic games?

I ask because Bolt might very well do that in the future...

No one.
 
Teddman said:
This may never go away, it's part of being so tall and being a sprinter, which is traditionally why you didn't see a lot of tall men racing the 100/200m. Obviously Bolt is doing just fine in spite of rocking.

:lol for sure. What Bolt and his coach have done is develop his technique to a point where it is efficient and extremely effective - they've managed to overcome the rocking, the leaning back, the biomechanical disadvantages of what might have been his "natural" gait and stride length. What I'm saying is, given the success they already have, it's not hard to imagine him taking tenths off both records if they continue to refine his technique further - even if those characteristics never completely disappear.

duderon said:
but here's a nice quote :D

He also went on to say it was the greatest bend of all time. Johnson is one of Bolt's biggest fans.

ForzaItalia said:
P.S. Has anyone ever won the 100m 200m and 400m at an Olympic games?

I ask because Bolt might very well do that in the future...

Now that would be beyond comprehension. It is so hard to do the 200m and 400m - hence why Johnson was such a legend. And even he only managed it Gold in both at one Olympics.

In addition, Bolt may not have the stamina for 400m. Probably not the strategy given his lack of training for it. And getting good at the 400m might hinder his ability to run the 100m at his best.

But it would be quite something!
 
ForzaItalia said:
Wow...some serious praise from a guy who ran the bend like no other.


P.S. Has anyone ever won the 100m 200m and 400m at an Olympic games?

I ask because Bolt might very well do that in the future...
Next Olympics book the trifecta now. 100,200 and 400 will belong to the one and only Usain.

No murders in Jamaica today, people were watching and celebrating their native son.
 
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