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The Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice For All Official Thread
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I finished this up around an hour ago now and the whole game was just amazing and even harder then the first! And I only cheated twice! We all know my tastes are kinda weird but I think each case was better than the last~ 4 > 3 > 2 > 1. The music was also great! More sinister and dramatic sounding. The one problem I had with the first game still persisted here though. All murder cases. Doesn't Nick take any other kinds of cases? One problem I had specific to this game is waaaay to much Mia. Maya/Pearl really didn't get much time as they should have. By the way wasn't it all kinds of wrong to be dragging Pearl around on murder investigations? Poor kid!
I agree on the
thing Lindsay. She showed up way too much. Come on Phoenix, do something yourself >=( Also,
. I found the second game harder as well. Only time I had to go to a FAQ in the first game was in the fifth case, and that was because I thought I did something but hadn't. This time I had to use it like twice in the 2nd case and did a bunch of random guesswork in the 3rd.
Mia
Mia looks really ****ing creepy in Pearl's outfit. I mean wtf x_x
TelemachusD
Member
I finished the game last night.
Case 4 was amazing.
The only time I was totally stumped was in Case 2 when
All in all, a great and satisfying game. Hooray for linearity!
I would definitely play PW:AA before this one if you're at all interested in the series, because Justice For All spoils most of it. Now to start waiting for the third (and fourth) installments...and start working on Hotel Dusk.
Case 4 was amazing.
I knew what was up with Maya the instant I saw the transceiver. Matt Engarde turning evil was pretty unexpected, and his magically getting a snifter out of thin air was quite funny. But doesn't Phoenix revealing their conversation (about blackmailing de Killer) during the trial, violate attorney-client privilege? Engarde even tells Phoenix he won't be able to tell anyone what he says.
The only time I was totally stumped was in Case 2 when
you're suppose to point out the lack of powder burns on the bullet hole in Maya's sleeve.
All in all, a great and satisfying game. Hooray for linearity!
I would definitely play PW:AA before this one if you're at all interested in the series, because Justice For All spoils most of it. Now to start waiting for the third (and fourth) installments...and start working on Hotel Dusk.
A Link to the Past
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TelemachusD said:
It wasn't evidence, though. Plus, once it's been presented, it gets the ball rolling - Engarde won't object to it, because if he does, he's not guilty, and he is inevitably killed.
Just got to case 4. Didn't really like case 3 so much.
So wtf out and out there. Every single other PW case so far (in either game), has been fun and interesting to follow. PW2 Case 3, however? Just so contrived and nonsensical (even without the circus theme).
I hope Case 4 is better.
Edit - :lol
So wtf out and out there. Every single other PW case so far (in either game), has been fun and interesting to follow. PW2 Case 3, however? Just so contrived and nonsensical (even without the circus theme).
I hope Case 4 is better.
Edit - :lol
For great justice!
platypotamus
Member
Koomaster said:
Holy hell, I can't believe I missed that. Awesome!
Vyse The Legend
Member
Mejilan said:
Case 4 is the greatest case of all time. No worries, Meji. They saved the best for last!
Still playing through case 3. Up until this point, the game is definitely not as entertaining as the first phoenix wright. Looking forward to four - which people say is eight hours long 0_0 yikes. Still, you gotta love the scene where
:lol That was some funny shit.
phoenix gets whipped bad by Von Karma
I found Case 3 to be one of the more unique cases of the series (at least the series released in North America). I enjoyed it despite, or maybe because of, it's eccentricities. And yes, Case 4 is LONG. Take your time with it, don't try and rush through it in a night like I tried to do.
I decided to take a spin through the first game again just for kicks. It goes so quickly now that you don't have to wait for the text.
And Case 2 of PW1 wasn't all bad, when it got out of tutorial mode, it had its moments.
I decided to take a spin through the first game again just for kicks. It goes so quickly now that you don't have to wait for the text.
And Case 2 of PW1 wasn't all bad, when it got out of tutorial mode, it had its moments.
Phoenix Wright: The witness is a big fat liar!
April May: Fat??
April May: Fat??
Chris Michael
Banned
WHAT THE ****
Edgeworth died?? 
He was pretty much the best character in PW1... ((((( BULLSHIT
He was pretty much the best character in PW1... ((((( BULLSHITShockingAlberto
Member
Just finished.
Now I don't know how I'm going to pass time until the next game. Time not spent with a Gyakuten Saiban game is time wasted!
Overall, I liked PW1 better. However, there were points of PW2 that were head and shoulders above the first game. The entirety of case four, for example. That's how you keep intensity up and keep the player emotionally invested! As with most cases, I figured them out long before Phoenix did, but there was always one or two details that still surprised me.
Now I don't know how I'm going to pass time until the next game. Time not spent with a Gyakuten Saiban game is time wasted!
Master Pain
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I don't get the distaste for Case 3. Not as great as 4 but still one of the better ones. I didn't mind the absurdity and the final twists were both funny and sad. I wouldn't try to rate them (though PW1 case 4/5 and PW2 case 4 are definitely at the top). Bring on GS3.
And done.
Though PW1 was quite a bit longer and infinitely more polished (PW2's localization mostly blows)... wow.
PW2 Case 4 CRUSHES the other 8 cases that span the two games. Incredible.
Edit - Pearls... Nick... Maya.... reservations... *can't breathe* :lol
Though PW1 was quite a bit longer and infinitely more polished (PW2's localization mostly blows)... wow.
PW2 Case 4 CRUSHES the other 8 cases that span the two games. Incredible.
Edit - Pearls... Nick... Maya.... reservations... *can't breathe* :lol
I'm obviously late to the party on JFA, but I've been lil' backed up.
I recently got through the first case in JFA and was going to come in here to complain about the soundtrack compared to the one in AA, but you guys are saying to give it a chance to let it grow on you. I guess I'll have to keep it at then.
I do miss the music from the first game though, especially the turnabout track. In the first game I got really excited when I heard it, but so far the turnabout music in this one makes feel a bit let down.
I recently got through the first case in JFA and was going to come in here to complain about the soundtrack compared to the one in AA, but you guys are saying to give it a chance to let it grow on you. I guess I'll have to keep it at then.
I do miss the music from the first game though, especially the turnabout track. In the first game I got really excited when I heard it, but so far the turnabout music in this one makes feel a bit let down.
I'm into case 3. The
refs in case 2 were amazing. Maybe
wasn't, but that and
? Not likely.
So, if there are any Capcom people hanging around: please let a grammar fascist have a look at your English script for 3, won't you? The constant punctuation and frequent spelling errors ("alter" for "altar", some other homophone error in case 3, etc.) are really bringing me down
Not too badly, though. I thought Case 1 was more enjoyable than PWAA Case 1. Case 2 was loads of fun, and it wasn't nearly as depressing as PWAA Case 2. It was obvious from the time of the murder who did it and how; it was only the specifics (and the final twist) that took some thinking. It was very easy, in general. The only part I got really stuck at was
I smacked myself when I thought that one through, I'll tell you.
This one, while lacking the polish and excellent court music of the first, still gets the blood pumping in a way adventure games seldom do. Case 3 is OK so far, but I have my suspicions locked in place already... we'll see how it goes.
NeoGAF
"Believe."
"You will say, 'wow'"
So, if there are any Capcom people hanging around: please let a grammar fascist have a look at your English script for 3, won't you? The constant punctuation and frequent spelling errors ("alter" for "altar", some other homophone error in case 3, etc.) are really bringing me down
Not too badly, though. I thought Case 1 was more enjoyable than PWAA Case 1. Case 2 was loads of fun, and it wasn't nearly as depressing as PWAA Case 2. It was obvious from the time of the murder who did it and how; it was only the specifics (and the final twist) that took some thinking. It was very easy, in general. The only part I got really stuck at was
presenting the key -- for some reason I went with the "someone else" option first, was denied, and didn't try it for the "Maya left" option, since I knew she couldn't have left!
This one, while lacking the polish and excellent court music of the first, still gets the blood pumping in a way adventure games seldom do. Case 3 is OK so far, but I have my suspicions locked in place already... we'll see how it goes.
Pureauthor
Member
jgkspsx said:
You are off your rocker if you think 'you will say 'wow'' is in any way, shape, or form attritbuted to NeoGAF as a meme.
You people really have a strange view of NeoGAF.
Joe Molotov
Member
Pureauthor said:
Well, at least we still have Pedobear, right??
I thought that it was derived from some Nintendo exec interview and amplified here? Or is it another SA derivative?Pureauthor said:
Anyway, I don't really care
Why the hell do all these Japanese adventure games (Touch Detective, too) have circus chapters, anyway? Do they love the circus there? Do they think it's really important to American culture? I don't get it.
Ohhhh I just finished JFA... holy crap at case 4 indeed... most sensational !
Speaking of which, from case 4...
Speaking of which, from case 4...
Does anyone have the graphical rip of the drawing Maya did on Shelly's card ? I tried Court Record website but they don't have it...
Well, Case 3 was a good time. The use of evidence seemed much more coherent and logical than the norm -- I hope this is a trend! (Maybe I'm just getting used to Capcom logic, though...)
But the grammar and punctuation keep getting worse and worse
Loved the epilogue! Can't wait to see what happens next...
But the grammar and punctuation keep getting worse and worse
Loved the epilogue! Can't wait to see what happens next...
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I've got a problem with Case 5 of the first game, and how it flows into this game. Any thoughts on this? All in spoiler tag for those who aren't through most of both.
The second game makes more sense without case 5 of the first game. This makes sense considering in the original GBA versions that case did not exist. However, it would be a bummer for me to have to consider all the characters and situations from case 5 some sort of... non-canon Phoenix Wright plot cul-de-sac.
In Justice For All, they make reference to the first game's Von Karma case, and say that after that Edgeworth left the Prosecutor's Office. Phoenix seems to hate his guts. He returns for case 4 of the new game, Phoenix isn't quite sure what to make of him, but eventually realizes that Edgeworth has become a different kind of prosecutor, trying to find the truth rather than just a guilty verdict.
However, that development already occurred in case 5 of the first game, without the year-long disappearance. Wright and Edgeworth end up teaming up against Gant, and they seem pretty happy about it afterward. It doesn't make much sense that AFTER that Edgeworth has a crisis of faith and disappears, while Phoenix goes on to hate him.
In Justice For All, they make reference to the first game's Von Karma case, and say that after that Edgeworth left the Prosecutor's Office. Phoenix seems to hate his guts. He returns for case 4 of the new game, Phoenix isn't quite sure what to make of him, but eventually realizes that Edgeworth has become a different kind of prosecutor, trying to find the truth rather than just a guilty verdict.
However, that development already occurred in case 5 of the first game, without the year-long disappearance. Wright and Edgeworth end up teaming up against Gant, and they seem pretty happy about it afterward. It doesn't make much sense that AFTER that Edgeworth has a crisis of faith and disappears, while Phoenix goes on to hate him.
Edgeworth doesn't seem very happy at all as Case 5 goes on. He's pretty obviously shaken up and emo about Gant saying Edgeworth's "just like him," while Phoenix is kind of distant and just assumes everything's going to be ok.
Also, note that Case 5 revealed Edgeworth really was using lies in court even when he didn't know it, so that probably helped spur him to search for the truth. Before that, it's just speculation, but Case 5 confirms it all.
Just remember that it was added in after all of the first 3 GS games came out, kind of like a director's cut, but it's definitely the new canon ending (or else we wouldn't have characters from that case returning for GS4) and not some pocket universe where it doesn't affect anything else in the game. There's definitely the plot hole of the GS1 Case 4 images mentioned as the time Edgeworth left, but that's probably because they didn't work too hard on the port of GS2, so they didn't add in an image or two from Case 5. And at least the translation keeps it just ambiguous enough that it doesn't have to be taken to literally mean Edgeworth ran away the day after Case 4 happened.
Also, note that Case 5 revealed Edgeworth really was using lies in court even when he didn't know it, so that probably helped spur him to search for the truth. Before that, it's just speculation, but Case 5 confirms it all.
Just remember that it was added in after all of the first 3 GS games came out, kind of like a director's cut, but it's definitely the new canon ending (or else we wouldn't have characters from that case returning for GS4) and not some pocket universe where it doesn't affect anything else in the game. There's definitely the plot hole of the GS1 Case 4 images mentioned as the time Edgeworth left, but that's probably because they didn't work too hard on the port of GS2, so they didn't add in an image or two from Case 5. And at least the translation keeps it just ambiguous enough that it doesn't have to be taken to literally mean Edgeworth ran away the day after Case 4 happened.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Good points.firex said:
Ahh, cool. I didn't know that, but that's the sort of thing I was wondering whether would happen at all.