Gillian Seed
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This!
So what GAF is telling me is all versions are broken.
iPad works fairly well, except for horrible placement on the nudge buttons and black knight's magnasave buttons.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Yes, the current PS3 version's lag is a great deal more tolerable once you force the system into 720p, which does force all apps and games to run at that max resolution until you switch it back. I didn't think I'd mind the lower res, but Pinball Arcade looks much better in 1080p. Since they say it's out of their hands due to the lighting, they should implement a software switch if possible, though all games should on PS3 since it's a somewhat common thing on the platform, it seems.
*crosses fingers that the X360 version doesn't get similarly screwed up with its upcoming lighting update*
*crosses fingers that the X360 version doesn't get similarly screwed up with its upcoming lighting update*
MightyHedgehog
Member
so apparently optional update (4 launch tables fixes and updated lighting) is out but it stops at 99% followed by an error message
also from Pinball Arcade facebook:
About damned time, FarSight. Hope I can leave the PS3 one forever if the X360 version stays good post-update.
Gah. So they finally admitted it was due to their programming rather than imaginary as initially claimed. The 360 better not have the lag now. I didn't even realize it ran in 1080p native. (I bought it for the Vita version). Absurd if they can't fix it.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Considering they were supposedly rejected by Valve to be on steam, I wouldn't get your hopes up.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Welp, the lighting/in-game update cannnot finish downloading since it refuses to finish at the end. Also, no DLC tables on marketplace that I see so far. FarSight, what in the fuck is going on?
Tables are showing in the game menus but they can't be purshased yet.
We are so close.
Optional update is dated for 2nd of august so it probably won't be available until then.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Which menus? And after exactly four months of waiting for the first real content update and first DLC tables, which other platforms have had for months, they're going to let it sit there and tease XBLA players until two days from now? WTF? Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. FarSight have really bungled this whole thing pretty badly since release, so I hope that this is the last of the major issues to be had.
I have them(and other people from pinballarcadefans site) in the table selection menus.They are there but all of them have music from Tales of the Arabian Nights so they are probably uploading.
and yes it is stupid and confusing.First there was an update screen without an update,now there is an update but it stops at 99% and then there are tables but you can't buy them.
We've waited this long, a few more days won't be too bad. Granted, this hasn't been the smoothest release ever, but hopefully after this first batch, things will smooth themselves out. I think having a more realistic launch schedule of 2 tables a month, with a title update every two months could benefit Farsight here.
Just downloaded both packs...finally. However the leaderboards don't work.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Seems to be up for download now.
GitarooMan
Member
Still can't get the update for the 4 original tables to download successfully on 360. The add-on packs seem to be available, but I'm not buying anything until I'm sure they've sorted stuff out.
RadarScope1
Member
I'll echo the two posts above. Seems somebody will have to go first, though...
According to their FB the downloadable update for the original packs shouldn't be out until tomorrow, so that could be the issue. Not sure why you get the prompt for it early.
I snagged the new tables last night.
However, after the patch, and the failed update, the leaderboards weren't working for me. Hopefully that gets fixed when the update is available tomorrow.
I snagged the new tables last night.
However, after the patch, and the failed update, the leaderboards weren't working for me. Hopefully that gets fixed when the update is available tomorrow.
I got the new tables, and played a couple games on each. They all seem fine and functional, but I did run into some weirdness with Funhouse when the game ended. The audio kept going, and the screen would sit there frozen for 10-15 seconds before finally bringing up the prompt you usually get right away. Restarting the game seemed to fix it.
As with others, I can't access leaderboards or download the optional update, but everything in-game seems OK other than that weird bug which may or may not be common/frequent.
As with others, I can't access leaderboards or download the optional update, but everything in-game seems OK other than that weird bug which may or may not be common/frequent.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Played all the new tables before and after the update successfully took and finished. Lighting is a little better on X360 versus the PS3 version and response time and overall speed are better than the PS3 versions, even when they are forced to run in 720p on that system. This is the version to own right now, if you want the best performance and visual quality. All the tables exhibit some new or tweaked ball and table behavior, but almost all of it is good and makes the game more challenging and realistic-feeling than before. Still, the introduction of more slightly frequent flipper sticks, and some weird issues here and there, like a current lack of leaderboards on X360, need to be addressed over time. Don't like that the plunger sensitivity seems to have been altered and now seems to match the PS3 version for finickiness when going for controlled ball launches for skillshots and such. Overall, worth it even if the lighting patch doesn't take yet for you.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Leaderboards better go Live tommorow!
This is good. I think I will double-dip on these, given that any semblance of a PC version might as well be decades away.
Wasn't the reason they held off on the initial release so they could be a featured app? Good to see that MS is helping them out by showing the dates of the initial submissions rather than the date of the most recent re-submission.
Oh fuck yes. Not so much about Harley (seriously, fuck Stern) but Taxi is amazing. Probably my favourite in WPC and I think my most wanted IRL machine. For some reason, I prefer the feel of the alpha-numeric tables over DMD ones.
Funnily enough, HD will be the second table I'm skipping out on, on top of Ripley's.
Taxi is definitely one of my favorites as well. I'm also more a fan of the 70s/80s/early 90s machines than the craziness that came out in later years. Some of those are fun too, but the machines in that era found a sweet spot between being too simple and too complex that was lost as the pinball arms race escalated.
Had some more weirdness with Funhouse on 360.
I had the game crap out on me after losing my final ball. It was still running and displaying the machine like it normally does between games, but it wouldn't let me start up a new game without going to the pause menu and exiting game, then re-selecting the table from the main menu. The camera-control buttons still worked, but there was no way to start the game.
On my second play, I ran into a bug after hitting multiball where the table went unresponsive for 15-20 seconds before finally releasing the balls for multiball. Everything seemed fine after that, but the long delay was definitely weird.
I still can't download the optional update, (the 88MB one), so it's possible that the update addresses these problems. Hope so, because these bugs -- while not game-breaking -- are definitely annoying and make me not want to play the table.
I had the game crap out on me after losing my final ball. It was still running and displaying the machine like it normally does between games, but it wouldn't let me start up a new game without going to the pause menu and exiting game, then re-selecting the table from the main menu. The camera-control buttons still worked, but there was no way to start the game.
On my second play, I ran into a bug after hitting multiball where the table went unresponsive for 15-20 seconds before finally releasing the balls for multiball. Everything seemed fine after that, but the long delay was definitely weird.
I still can't download the optional update, (the 88MB one), so it's possible that the update addresses these problems. Hope so, because these bugs -- while not game-breaking -- are definitely annoying and make me not want to play the table.
Rudy does that for me well enough on his own...no bugs needed.
I think it's that (my personal feeling, at least) with those games that had the more advanced sound yet more restrictive displays, designers etc. were forced to work within confines of having to pull you into the game solely with intricate sounds and lights (and pay more detail to the playfield itself, I think).
When the DMDs came along, it forced you to concentrate on two things (the playfield and the DMD) rather than just the playfield. It also sort of made you less a part of the machine and more a spectator of it, I guess.
I can't really disagree with any of this either. I've definitely lost balls in games because I was looking at whatever was going on on the DMD, when the game decided to release the ball before the animation was finished.
I've also completely missed important DMD prompts because I was paying attention to the playfield. It happens less the more you play and get used to a table, but I think it's definitely a hindrance to my overall enjoyment.
And there's nothing worse than having to stop playing a really good game of pinball to play some really terrible videogame on a DMD.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Now that it seems that they'll have most of the classic re-releases from PHoF bundled in with other new tables by end of year, I hope they start announcing new classic tables, like High Speed, Xenon, and Centaur. Need more 80s machines, damn it.
Minsc
Gold Member
PC update from the Newsletter confirms no release until end of year for the best case scenario... damn you FarSight! Still same situation as before, no publisher and no actual running game yet, all still very much WIP. They won't release it on the PC until it looks as good as consoles (but no hesitation on an inferior Mac port!), probably a smart decision, as it'd be torn apart by PC users if it lacked the lighting and other details in the console version. Oh well, at least I can catch up on a few of the tables on the 360 finally.
Also there's was pretty nice list of tables that we weren't supposed to be seeing in the game for a while due to the Williams System 11 emulation being incomplete, but with Taxi releasing, I guess that is no longer the case, unless it is scripted instead of emulated.
Oh well, at least I can catch up on a few of the tables on the 360 finally. Also there's was pretty nice list of tables that we weren't supposed to be seeing in the game for a while due to the Williams System 11 emulation being incomplete, but with Taxi releasing, I guess that is no longer the case, unless it is scripted instead of emulated.
Vert boil
Member
The update is live now.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/P...961aa3a-bd84-41cd-8f6f-8974411d8435?cid=SLink
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/P...961aa3a-bd84-41cd-8f6f-8974411d8435?cid=SLink
Confirmed that I can download it from within the game now and not get the same error as before.
Yup!
One thing I've actually noticed as well, is that older games consistently had better flow to them because things weren't halted for some DMD animation. I've always preferred Steve Ritchie's games to, say, Lawlor's who treated the playfield as more of a fairground (in his words) and you can see that, especially in Ripley's. Too much shit going on, not enough ball movement. At least Ritchie didn't seem to succumb to it as much... just look at T2.
Edit: Meant to ask, is it worth getting the new tables on 360 if I don't have it on PS3? I'm hanging out for PC but like I said (and they said in an email) it's fucking ages away yet, if at all. I just don't understand how it can be that difficult to get it as good looking as the consoles on a PC when that's probably the machine they developed the game on! I'm guessing it's more distribution than anything else.
MightyHedgehog
Member
Yay. The game is no longer prompting me to update upon boot despite having been successful with it yesterday. Tables seem to look and perform the same as yesterday, so it seems that it was just a date on marketplace triggering it. Leaderboards are randomly not up for me, though Black Hole is, for whatever reason.
MightyHedgehog
Member
You should, as they run and look better than the PS3 versions, especially for response time.
Gillian Seed
Banned
Where are the Leaderboards for the new tables? Damn Farsight!
RadarScope1
Member
Very well, then. Looks like the 360 version has caught up for the most part and is OK to dive back into. I haven't played this for a while. Looking forward to trying some classic tables for the first time ever...
Gillian Seed
Banned
Damn! They only have 1 lame achievment for each new table for getting a high score. And the worst part is after you unlock them, they dont count towards your Gamerscore. WTF is going on with Farsight?
Gillian Seed
Banned
The new lighting is more Dynamic. It looks more dim, so that the LED Lights on the table show up better. But to me the physics were better on PHOF Medieval Madness. But maybe i am just not adjusted properly yet. Farsight really botched it again with Achievments and Leaderboards!
Yeah, I noticed that too. If you look on Xbox.com at your achievements, it only shows the original achievements for the game with a total of 200 gamerscore. I've unlocked all of the achievements on the new DLC tables, so that should be 60 gamerscore and 4 new achievements, but aside from the notifications popping up to say I unlocked them, they may as well not exist.
I've never bought such a half-baked downloadable game on a console. I'm only giving it a pass because I absolutely love pinball.
Gillian Seed
Banned
The guys over at the Pinball Arcade Fans Forums have detailed answers on everything for 360 and PS3.