DaBargainHunta
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Has the PS+ discount disappeared for anyone else?
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Parallax Scroll
Banned
next gen pinball
Yes, I was getting an error message about it being for ps+ even though I'm a member. Now I don't see the ps+ discount in the store anymore and I still get the error message. What the hell?
BigWeather
Member
I paid $15 for season one non-pro as a PS3/PSV season one owner and PS+ member -- wondering if my PS+ discount didn't stack, however. Still, great value.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
I think the PC version wiped out my save file when I updated. I guess I can go get the standard goals in No Good Gofers, but it wiped out the super jackpot I got. FML.
Ah that's a disappointment...
BigWeather
Member
The background for the Downloading screen looks like it was taken at the Pinball Hall of Fame in Vegas. I'm probably wrong though.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
oh n/m the discounted version is an entirely separate item, neat
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Aside from losing my save, and having to reconfigure the controls because the gamepad wasn't doing shit, I'm fine.
Fish Tales is awesome, and that theme is stuck in my head now.
Fish Tales is awesome, and that theme is stuck in my head now.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Is the game supposed to playing badly compressed stereo sound?!
So now I have proof that FarSight was holding me back on the PS3 version of Attack from Mars. It has a right orbit glitch they never fixed that periodically sends the ball SDTM.
TodayI played the PS4 version of the game, and on my third try I scored 41+ billion and saved the universe (beating the table). =D
I love this table.
For the record, this is entirely wrong. I did not by the Season 1 pass on the PS3, but owned every pack anyway and was able to purchase the PS4 Season Pass for the discounted $15.
TodayI played the PS4 version of the game, and on my third try I scored 41+ billion and saved the universe (beating the table). =D
I love this table.
For the record, this is entirely wrong. I did not by the Season 1 pass on the PS3, but owned every pack anyway and was able to purchase the PS4 Season Pass for the discounted $15.
I came to ask the same question. This game has the worst audio I've heard in a long time. I get that that they want to preserve the actual tables, but there's no reason for the bumpers and everything else to sound so shitty.
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Glad I'm not alone. This shit sound is a huge deterrent from buying the season pack.
And is there no vibration from the bumpers?!
BigWeather
Member
Sorry to self-quote, but yup, looks like it is: http://www.bigweathergames.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/130805_NV_4_PinballHallOfFame3_small.jpg
I think dark mode is a little too dark, and the middle one is a little too light on a lot of the tables. I wish there was a setting in between the two.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I'm seeing agreement from a number of folks that there's a problem with the sound quality. Flipping back and forth between the same table on the PS3 and PS4 versions, the PS4 sound is scratchy and heavily compressed. Both PS4 and PS3 are worse than the PC version supposedly.
Hard to imagine any technical limitation to the sound quality, I wonder if something is misconfigured internally in the PS4 build's audio settings.
Hard to imagine any technical limitation to the sound quality, I wonder if something is misconfigured internally in the PS4 build's audio settings.
plagiarize
Banned
it's interesting how some tables really sing in dark mode, and others don't. Cirqus Voltaire, Attack From Mars, Bride of Pinbot, Scared Stiff... all look awesome in dark mode. I'm not feeling Monster Bash that way though, for some reason.
Anyways, here's a little gameplay from Cirqus Voltaire. Pretty poor, but I do manage to get the ball jammed under the Ringmaster for a bit. So, go me I guess!
http://youtu.be/K54xphzBzmY
Anyways, here's a little gameplay from Cirqus Voltaire. Pretty poor, but I do manage to get the ball jammed under the Ringmaster for a bit. So, go me I guess!
http://youtu.be/K54xphzBzmY
Obscene Jester
Banned
So it "sounds" like not only did I get screwed out of some PS+ discount, but I also had the opportunity to think my speakers were blown for a minute.
I hope to hell this is going to be patched. And yeah, no vibration is just pathetic.
I hope to hell this is going to be patched. And yeah, no vibration is just pathetic.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
programming in a dimmer switch is hard
Reluctant-Hero
Member
Yeah , what happened to the PS+ discount? It's was there earlier this afternoon before the store/PSN had issues.
But with these issues, in order severity:
I won't be purchasing the first season pack. Now PS4 pinball hopes lay with Zen, can't wait for next week.
But with these issues, in order severity:
- shit sound quality
- no vibration
- no PS+ discount
I won't be purchasing the first season pack. Now PS4 pinball hopes lay with Zen, can't wait for next week.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Yeah, I lost my save. Hopefully, FS adds Steam Cloud support so this doesn't happen again.
Getting the jet bumpers lit on Space Shuttle and everything involving Firepower is going to be a pain, but at least I can get the standard goal achievement in No Good Gofers again... even though I lost my super jackpot wizard goal... :cries:
Getting the jet bumpers lit on Space Shuttle and everything involving Firepower is going to be a pain, but at least I can get the standard goal achievement in No Good Gofers again... even though I lost my super jackpot wizard goal... :cries:
Hopefully with the Euro release tomorrow there will be some streams of it via PS4 tomorrow.
famousmortimer
Banned
The sound is "authentic." Or a glitch. Who fucking knows.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
i heard the sound was due to "engine limitations" ahahaha
PS4 needs a bigger engine confirmed. Should have put a V8 in there, Sony.
lolol, the sound omg hahahaha ;_;
Game doesn't look any better than on PC imo. Bright looks nice, but looks pretty much like the ipad/PC version. Neutral looks kind of bland. Dark is cool in a "hey, this is something different" way, but at least on ToTAN it didn't do much for me.
If they can fix the sound it seems like a solid version for sure, but if the PC version gets the PS4 "dark" mode at some point, PC is all I need.
I can't believe PS4 doesn't even have friend leaderboards across PS4 friends wtf!
Game doesn't look any better than on PC imo. Bright looks nice, but looks pretty much like the ipad/PC version. Neutral looks kind of bland. Dark is cool in a "hey, this is something different" way, but at least on ToTAN it didn't do much for me.
If they can fix the sound it seems like a solid version for sure, but if the PC version gets the PS4 "dark" mode at some point, PC is all I need.
I can't believe PS4 doesn't even have friend leaderboards across PS4 friends wtf!
Oyashrio-Sama
Member
Wow... I have to pay for all the tables again? :\
Minsc
Gold Member
Keep in mind as well the game is running the same ROMs that were in the actual pinball machines, a tiny little 1MB file generally holds all the DMD animations, the sound bytes (voice clips), the music, and everything else to the table in just 1MB or so. So there is an upper limit on what to expect, they aren't remastered or anything. That said, from all the people who've compared in comparison to the PS3, it does sound like something went awry on the PS4 with the sound engine.
PC sounds great to me, don't know if anyone with a PS4 can compare it to that.
It's $15 if you bought them already (for 22 tables), that's a pretty fair price for the work that went in to setting up the new lighting engine imo. They claim it is more of an upgrade than Zen is doing.
That's day four? We knew that already! Gimme another gift!
Is strobe mode a real thing now or did FS cheap out on it?
You might find some tables are better than others. Maybe they got the sound from a different source other than the original ROMs, I dunno. But when I first played Monster Bash on 360, I was surprised with the clarity.
PS. Guys, Taxi was in S2, wasn't it? Was kinda hoping to play that with the new engine
It's not that. Even the menu music sounds absolutely terrible.
Obscene Jester
Banned
This game is borderline broken with the way the sound is now. I can only laugh at the devs saying their game is worth more than Zen Pinball because of all the hard work they put into the next gen upgrades. I can all but gauruntee that ZP2 will be far more polished and feature complete than this mess right now. If I didn't love these real tables I would have now problem skipping this travesty.
Minsc
Gold Member
So wait a week or so for a patch? Doesn't seem like life or death to me.
They're different games though, I don't see why people can't like both. Each have pros and cons, ZP2 is going to probably be more polished I agree, but it also has the issue where you can play a single ball on a table for like 10 hours (I already saw comments the new Dr Strange table is guilty of being able to never worry about a ball draining). I dunno, patience is important with TPA, flaws do generally get fixed, you just need to wait a little bit sometimes.
I don't think they're saying the game is worth more either, just that the improvement (in graphics) from the PS3 > PS4 will be larger than the graphical improvement from Zen going PS3 > PS4. Zen has fantasy tables, and TPA has real tables, you can't really get a full experience from either product, both lack something the other offers.
Edit: Also compared to other bugs we've seen in the past, like the camera ones, where say on Black Hole the camera didn't return to the play field after entering the lower playfield, this doesn't render the gameplay impossible like that did, and there's actually been very little complaints so far from PS4 users about the sound issue (none til this morning on their facebook page) - where if the sound was actually missing entirely or something like that, I'm sure you'd see a whole lot more people complaining.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I played a game of Big Shot earlier where every single ball went straight out the sides and out of play before even making it near a flipper.
You're not very observant, to put it mildly.
You're not very observant, to put it mildly.
plagiarize
Banned
Strobe multiball is still missing a strobe light, sadly. Apart from that the new lighting looks amazing, but yeah, when I got strobe going... I was a bit disappointed. I mean, it says 'strobe' right in the name of the mode
Minsc
Gold Member
I always felt you can never have a true classic pinball table unless a new / non-expert player could potentially drain all 3 of their balls with them barely even making it to the flippers once. One of the things that I remember about TAF is going from the bumpers on the left side (graveyard area) straight to the outside drain after launching a ball lol. That or any time I'd get a game mode like mamushka or hit cousin itt, I pretty much lose the ball in the first two seconds.
The game is up in Europe now as well.
One big problem though. I have the season 1 pass for PS3/Vita, but the season 1 pass for PS4 is showing up for €30 for me.
The half price version is showing up but I can't buy it as it tells me that I don't have bought the season pass 1, while it does show up in my purchase list. :-/
One big problem though. I have the season 1 pass for PS3/Vita, but the season 1 pass for PS4 is showing up for €30 for me.
The half price version is showing up but I can't buy it as it tells me that I don't have bought the season pass 1, while it does show up in my purchase list. :-/
plagiarize
Banned
Something I still almost always do on GREED in Twilight Zone, is as soon as the ball returns from the slot machine I hit it into the target on the bottom of the yellow pop bumper and it flies straight between my flippers. I ONLY do this during GREED.
BigWeather
Member
Bought season 1 on PS4 for $15 since I had them anyway. Was hoping for the pro pack discount, but the way you had to have purchased all of the pro packs is wonky.
Lighting looks nice on dark, but not spectacular to me. If the upgrade is coming to PC, I'll hold out for Season 2 and pick and choose one or two on PS4 since I don't own any Season 2 on PS3.Vita.
Lighting looks nice on dark, but not spectacular to me. If the upgrade is coming to PC, I'll hold out for Season 2 and pick and choose one or two on PS4 since I don't own any Season 2 on PS3.Vita.
I think Day 5 leaked already
Day 5: Five gold rings. why not spend some of your gold on TPA for PS4 - it came out yesterday you know.