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Man Jason Aaron's MAX Electra is the worst version of that character
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The Punisher - The man. The legend. The maniac. Here's your primer.
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NotTheGuyYouKill
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Holy crap, Steve Dillon actually has a lot of talent when he tries:
http://stevedillonart.tumblr.com/
The Scarlet Witch stuff is quite good. Like, I'm used to him on Punisher. I don't mind him, he did great work in PunisherMAX, but because he's so prevalent, I like seeing other artists. But if he's changing up the style a bit, I'm game.
I disagree cause
http://stevedillonart.tumblr.com/
The Scarlet Witch stuff is quite good. Like, I'm used to him on Punisher. I don't mind him, he did great work in PunisherMAX, but because he's so prevalent, I like seeing other artists. But if he's changing up the style a bit, I'm game.
I disagree cause
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Gentleman Jack
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Gun gets bigger, too.
And again when the same composition is used in the Dark Reign cover. And an even bigger gun.
He has all the Avengers gadgets
Here's a challenge for you Punisher fans out there
What are your top 5 non-MAX (non-Ennis) Punisher stories?
Mine so far would be:
1. Franken-Castle + The List
2. Jigsaw Puzzle
3. Circle of Blood
4. Final Days
5. Living in Darkness
Edit: Death Below Zero, one of my favorite Punisher stories, can't believe I forgot this one.
Here's a challenge for you Punisher fans out there
What are your top 5 non-MAX (non-Ennis) Punisher stories?
Mine so far would be:
1. Franken-Castle + The List
2. Jigsaw Puzzle
3. Circle of Blood
4. Final Days
5. Living in Darkness
Edit: Death Below Zero, one of my favorite Punisher stories, can't believe I forgot this one.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Which arguably is why he might be worthy of being a main villain in a Punisher series. Not that he is the most iconic, or even bad ass Punisher villains. However, due to Ennis he has a pretty damn good back story and the limited series also fleshed out his character. Of all of Punishers villains they could use the most source material in the series to make him a compelling antagonist for 12 episodes.
On top of that his final fight with Punisher was brutal, way more brutal that jigsaws run in with punisher outside his origin
The only character who would be a better fit is if they decided to bring back Kingpin. The goat series would be if the pitter Punisher against Kingpin and Barricuda playing them against each other which is perfectly in line with what the character would do.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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He has all the Avengers gadgets
Here's a challenge for you Punisher fans out there
What are your top 5 non-MAX (non-Ennis) Punisher stories?
Mine so far would be:
1. Franken-Castle + The List
2. Jigsaw Puzzle
3. Circle of Blood
4. Final Days
5. Living in Darkness
Year One
Circle of Blood
Suicide Run
Frankencastle
Rucka's run (incl. War Zone finale. It's all one long story IMO)
Punished Punisher.
Great OP. I pretty much agree with all of your commentary on the various runs, especially the most recent. Such an interesting concept, such a bungled, mishandled execution. I actually didn't know a new run was starting soon, I look forward to it, even though I think Punisher is a character that is entirely hit or miss based on the writer. The ones that get him really get him, the ones that don't really make for a boring books.
davidwhangchoi
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ennis max is best
He has all the Avengers gadgets
Taskmaster would be proud
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Another note: the Vietnam origin for Frank holds true for the 90s stuff and all of Ennis' work (especially MAX because the timeline reflects the real world, so Frank is over sixty by the end of the series).
Modern depictions of Frank either make him an Iraq/Middle East vet or make him a black ops soldier.
Modern depictions of Frank either make him an Iraq/Middle East vet or make him a black ops soldier.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I'm just really amazed you forgot to put it in the OP. It's literally the only thing any random person would know from the comics, particularly here on neogaf. That thing was real popular here once.
I have faves too, that story is particularly appreciated because 1) the aforementioned intro and 2) Microchip's interrogation, where he tries his best to coerce Frank with much eloquence and Frank just looks at him completely unconvinced like he's gonna stab a biro in his ear the first nanosecond he gets the chance
and then there's Nick Cavella
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Cause fuck that whole storyline. I didn't forget shit.
Find me the Everything is a knife edit and I'll put that in the op lol
Citizen_Insane
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You've sold me. Gonna start reading Punisher MAX.
slightconfuse
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I know fans hated it because it brought an end to Rucka's Punisher, but I actually liked Charles Soule's take on him when he had him on the Thunderbolts team (Elektra, Red Hulk, Deadpool, Red Leader, Mercy, Venom, Ghost Rider)..
It felt like a non-mutant Uncanny X-Force to me.
The high concept:
Thunderbolt Ross (now able to turn into a Hulk and retain his strategic intellect) assembles a strike team of anti heroes. They take turns suggesting targets/missions. Ross blackmails the Leader into helping the team, but Frank isn't having any of that. The first issue ends with him shooting the Leader in the head.
When it's Frank's turn, naturally he suggests taking on the mob. Eventually, he and Elektra start hooking up which upsets Deadpool. Eventually, Frank tries to leave the team when they try to use bad guys to gain an edge, end ends up trying to take down the whole team as a result.
It felt like a non-mutant Uncanny X-Force to me.
The high concept:
Thunderbolt Ross (now able to turn into a Hulk and retain his strategic intellect) assembles a strike team of anti heroes. They take turns suggesting targets/missions. Ross blackmails the Leader into helping the team, but Frank isn't having any of that. The first issue ends with him shooting the Leader in the head.
When it's Frank's turn, naturally he suggests taking on the mob. Eventually, he and Elektra start hooking up which upsets Deadpool. Eventually, Frank tries to leave the team when they try to use bad guys to gain an edge, end ends up trying to take down the whole team as a result.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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In case you're not aware, he's starring in Contest of Champions at the moment.
And he's working with the Maestro and killing a lot of people
Bobby Roberts
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Oh, you mean "I am Punisher (Black)" yeah. That was a weird one.
pencil skirt was aces, though.
pencil skirt was aces, though.
Yes and yes.
Oh god they went full Tropic Thunder =O
Other fun versions:
The Punfisher
This is SO WRONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWpK0wsnitc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher:_Dirty_Laundry
The Punisher: Dirty Laundry (stylized as #DIRTYLAUNDRY) is a 2012 fan film based on the Marvel Comics anti-hero the Punisher, starring Thomas Jane (reprising the title role from the 2004 film The Punisher) and Ron Perlman, produced by Adi Shankar.
10 mins long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher:_Dirty_Laundry
The Punisher: Dirty Laundry (stylized as #DIRTYLAUNDRY) is a 2012 fan film based on the Marvel Comics anti-hero the Punisher, starring Thomas Jane (reprising the title role from the 2004 film The Punisher) and Ron Perlman, produced by Adi Shankar.
10 mins long.
This was really good actually.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I was not a fan, but that's mostly because I don't like apocalyptic fiction, not because it's a bad story.
peanutbutterlatte
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My first experience with Punisher was in the 94 Spidey series. Where of course he killed nobody because nobody died or even fired or even HELD a gun in that series. Not much of a Punishment.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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A black and white page from Cloonan/Dillon's series:
Declan Shalvey on covers is awesome.
Declan Shalvey on covers is awesome.
Scrooge McDuck
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Sounds like this character and his world is completely not for me.
... but I am kinda interested in reading that Greg Rucka one because he looks handsome there.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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You should read Rucka's run in that case. MAX isn't for everyone, that is for sure. But Greg Rucka crafts a great, bittersweet tale. Great characters, art, and a very compelling storyline. This version of Frank isn't steeped in hate and misery like the MAX version, and it is wholly set in the regular Marvel Universe (there's guest appearances by Daredevil, Spider-Man, and some Avengers near the end of it once Frank has fucked up enough shit to get their attention).
I would say that Greg Rucka's story is equal to the MAX stuff, but in a very different way. MAX is "real world". Rucka is "Marvel World".
Phanatic8390
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I just went to add MAX to my list on Marvel Unlimited and it looks like they don't have them up. That's a bummer.
alfredofroylan
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I really like this one, sure the villain is dope but the interactions between Frank and the Rivendale residents is great, plus it has a really nice ending.
Scrooge McDuck
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Alright! I have been thinking of starting to read some superhero comics. Might as well start here.
And sorry to go off topic a bit: is there a subscription service similar to Netflix for comic books? I Googled a bit and only found digital stores that sell them for $3 per issue (which is sadly much too expensive for binge-reading) or some sketchy free online reading sites.
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Aa nevermind. I found The Comic Book Start Up Guide thread.
What's the cheapest way to read the MAX 2005-era run? I've been catching up on Marvel through unlimited and they don't care any of the MAX stuff.
Amazon has vol.1 of a complete MAX collection that includes Born and Issues #1-12, and then a vol.2 coming out in April with Issues #13-30. Are they planning on releasing another 2 volumes after to get to issue #60?
Amazon has vol.1 of a complete MAX collection that includes Born and Issues #1-12, and then a vol.2 coming out in April with Issues #13-30. Are they planning on releasing another 2 volumes after to get to issue #60?
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