fistfulofmetal
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what. i didn't know he was 50 already. when did he start playing basketball then?
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The Sad Tale of Michael Jackson: Why I Think He was Innocent
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teruterubozu
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Great artists do fucked up things in their personal lives. What's new?
StormyTheRabbit
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People who care this much about a celebrity disgust me.
Great guy, I'm sure, just could never care this much about a singer.
Great guy, I'm sure, just could never care this much about a singer.
BamYouHaveAids
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it's pretty simple
defense: "the defense would like to submit thriller into evidence"
jury: "verdict: not guilty"
CASE CLOSED
defense: "the defense would like to submit thriller into evidence"
jury: "verdict: not guilty"
CASE CLOSED
Souldriver
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On top of that, the GAF aggregate has some of the most extreme views on pedophilia I have ever witnessed. So yes, there must be some cognitive dissonance going on with some people.Mercury Fred said:
Things like this for example. It might be a joke, and I don't know how BamYouHaveAids has ever reacted to the numerous paedophilia's threads on GAF, but still, it boils down to people making jokes and minimizing paedophilia (or/and acting on it) because he made cool songs. And that's just...not right.BamYouHaveAids said:
Tyrone Slothrop
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ultim8p00 said:
you're probably better off stating your point to your dog.
seriously folks if you simply read the depositions its not so far fetched that he was pretty much innocent.
StormyTheRabbit said:
It's not because he is a celebrity. If this were any other guy that got the same treatment I'd be just as pissed. It's because of the way he was treated. I'm not in anyways saying that the way MJ behave around kids was right; he was fucking weird. True. And yes, it's totally cool for people to be concerned. But what gets to me is that people took take advantage of his weird behavior around kids mercilessly and destroyed his life in the process. I mean here you have people flat out making shit up about just to get money.
The fact that he was with 30 kids, and none of them said they were molested, plus the fact that so many people made shit up just to get money from him , plus the fact that he is a humanitarian, plus the fact that most people that have been around him claim he is a genuinely nice guy, plus the fact that there was no evidence found, plus the fact that he was found not guilty is enough for me I guess. Yeah, that's not much but it should do.
It's kind of like taking advantage of a kid with a disability, which is why it gets to me so much.
Manmademan
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Lain said:
Second. I also agree with the OP. I think michael was totally, completely innocent there.
Of course, I also think OJ didn't do it, so take what I say with a grain of salt
BamYouHaveAids
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it does, but for this day and this day only i'm giving up my reputation as a cutting-edge poster and using outdated memes.Calcaneus said:
PSGames said:
Seriously. One of the reasons I made this thread. Learn the fucking facts. The damage is just irreparable now I guess. I wonder what could have happened if the media tried to stay objective. Maybe we would have found out the truth.
Manmademan said:
I don't think Michael did it, but I sure as hell think OJ did it. Stop talking like the two are mutually exclusive. There is overwhelming evidence than MJ's case was just greedy people capitalizing on a weird guy that happens to be rich.
Manmademan
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ultim8p00 said:
There's also overwhelming evidence nicole was a ho who ran with the wrong crowd and had it coming, and OJ was an innocent bystander.
OJ was totally innocent. and the sports memorabilia thing was a total set up and a mockery of justice.
Choke on the Magic
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ultim8p00 said:
So you'd let your kids sleep with him?
Catalix
And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
Not sure if he did it or not, but the facts laid out in the OP were definitely insightful.
I wasn't aware of some of those details, so this thread has proved its worth for me.
I wasn't aware of some of those details, so this thread has proved its worth for me.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
You're officially a creepy bastard now too. Congrats.
Choke on the Magic said:
What a fucking stupid question.
You obviously didn't read the OP, or any of my posts, or you can't read, or you are stupid.
I have clearly said that MJ had a weird way of interacting with children, so of course I will not let my kids sleep with him. I wouldn't let my kids sleep with any grown man for that matter.
But I would certainly pay him a vist with my kids and let them play with him in the amusement park and stuff, just like I would with any other adult. I don't think it is normal for a grown man to want to have slumber parties with kids and sleep with them, but like I said, he wanted to relieve his lost childhood, which explains why he did those things. He did not have sex with kids.
People saw that he like being around kids and used that opportunity to make shit up. Like they say, the most convincing lies have an element of truth to them.
Musashi Wins! said:
what..what does this even mean? are you being funny?
I'm just waiting for the counter-argument for all this. You know, one that might actually cite sources when quoting people.
...I still love MJ though. Nice to know there is an argument for his innocence, but having yet to see the evidence for both sides, I can't conclude anything.
...I still love MJ though. Nice to know there is an argument for his innocence, but having yet to see the evidence for both sides, I can't conclude anything.
Masked Man
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Awesome post(s). I was never really sure about the whole situation: I wanted to believe in his innocence--I would hate to think that anyone would be capable of doing such a horrible thing as molesting a child, and his upbringing was traumatic enough that being labeled a pedophile would merely add to his troubles--but there were still lingering doubts. I commend you, ultim8p00, for helping me resolve the debate in my mind. Jackson was, is, and will forever be innocent.
R.I.P. MJ
R.I.P. MJ
So it took two full posts to say people saw the money and took whatever chance they could to grab it? This has be known/thought of.
This really didnt have much to do with the rest of your post. Him being dead really doesnt have much to do with the pedophile accusers.
ultim8p00 said:
This really didnt have much to do with the rest of your post. Him being dead really doesnt have much to do with the pedophile accusers.
fistfulofmetal
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omg rite said:
i don't get it
speculawyer
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Did a restraining order forbid you from accessing a computer for a month?fistfulofmetal said:
ultim8p00 said:
You know, it's noble you have this agenda, and I have nothing for and/or against Jacko either way, but these so-called facts don't really mean all that much. It alludes to his personality, but not his innocence.
For example, just because people made up stuff doesn't make someone innocent. Of course, nor does it make them guilty. Just saying.
Furthermore, I like to separate pedophilia from the actual crime of diddling children or supporting the diddling/exploitation of children. If it's in one's head, where's the harm? Seek help, maybe, just to prevent any actual diddling.
(I'd better stop with the defense - I'll probably attract attention).
and in the ''Leave Me Alone'' video the newspaper says that he was frozen for 50 years.bud said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5KAJw4y8wE (30 sec in)
JimmyV said:
So that's all you got from this? I'm surprised.
JimmyV said:
It doesn't. It's an aside, which is why it is separate from the rest of the posts. Those statements are clearly independent of each other so I don't see how you could possibly make that connection.
Love the slightly haughty attitude btw.
mrkgoo said:
"so-called" facts? :lol
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
The thing about MJ is that his extreme eccentricity doomed him forever in the eyes of many people. If God came down and informed everyone that he personally watched Neverland Ranch to ensure that Jackson never laid a single inappropriate finger one child, tons of people would refuse to believe it and just call him a "monster" anyway.
People's views over pedophilia or anything resembling it are so extreme, that it doesn't even matter if Jackson was genuinely messed up in the head through no fault of his own. It's far easier for someone to be forgiven - at least in a detached sense - for cold blooded murder if it happened because they were out of their mind, than for someone to be forgiven even a teensy weensy bit for a pedo-esque incident even if that person was effectively manipulated into it by the circumstances of their entire lives and not very sane by the point.
I don't know if MJ actually did anything remotely like what he was charged with; maybe he did, for all the circumstances sounded like a pure money-grabbing ploy from the various parents. Even if he did, I feel equally sorry for both the children who were hurt by it and for Jackson himself. All evidence that's plain to see points to Michael Jackson having a genuinely tragic life that for all his talent and abilities, hobbled the man before he even reached adulthood.
If anyone wants to rage about "monsters" they would be better served to start at Jackson's father, before Jackson himself.
People's views over pedophilia or anything resembling it are so extreme, that it doesn't even matter if Jackson was genuinely messed up in the head through no fault of his own. It's far easier for someone to be forgiven - at least in a detached sense - for cold blooded murder if it happened because they were out of their mind, than for someone to be forgiven even a teensy weensy bit for a pedo-esque incident even if that person was effectively manipulated into it by the circumstances of their entire lives and not very sane by the point.
I don't know if MJ actually did anything remotely like what he was charged with; maybe he did, for all the circumstances sounded like a pure money-grabbing ploy from the various parents. Even if he did, I feel equally sorry for both the children who were hurt by it and for Jackson himself. All evidence that's plain to see points to Michael Jackson having a genuinely tragic life that for all his talent and abilities, hobbled the man before he even reached adulthood.
If anyone wants to rage about "monsters" they would be better served to start at Jackson's father, before Jackson himself.
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