I think what you should do in this sort of situation is to end the main story with the new game but don't do anything final like killing off the main character.
No thanks. This is a story that has been written since 1993.
I think what you should do in this sort of situation is to end the main story with the new game but don't do anything final like killing off the main character.
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I'm sorry guys, but this campaign was(is?) a mess, I still don't understand what's going on with this project so I didn't back...
They are helping publishing the ps4 version, not development
OK, so when he says that "obviously we're providing some funding" he meant that they are NOT providing funding?
OK, so when he says that "obviously we're providing some funding" he meant that they are NOT providing funding?
Dude, funding can be translated to to many things. From actual money exchanging hands to assuming expenses from another party. Expenses like publishing a game and marketing, for example.OK, so when he says that "obviously we're providing some funding" he meant that they are NOT providing funding?
OK, so when he says that "obviously we're providing some funding" he meant that they are NOT providing funding?
Precisely. Which makes me think that at least these reporters won't be that happy about it if it turns out to be good...The most important thing is that we get a good game out of this, isn't it? If Shenmue ends up being a great sequel, everybody will be happy - backers, gamers, Sony, reporters, Suzuki. In other words, it's way to early to make a stink about anything Shenmue III.
OK, so when he says that "obviously we're providing some funding" he meant that they are NOT providing funding?
Do you think publishing duties are free?
Publishing and marketing the game isn't providing funding?
I said earlier today that the insurance MGSV thread was the most childish thread I've seen on gaf.
I take that back.
OK, so when he says that "obviously we're providing some funding" he meant that they are NOT providing funding?
They are helping publishing the ps4 version, not development
Somebody let developers know publishing is now free.
Nah. I'll leave it up to interpretation.Care to elaborate, please?
He never mentions publishing in the interview. He was asked how is Sony helping and if they were providing money. He answered with the quote and also mentioned marketing as well. To say that Sony is not providing funding is inaccurate.
He never mentions publishing in the interview. He was asked how is Sony helping and if they were providing money. He answered with the quote and also mentioned marketing as well. To say that Sony is not providing funding is inaccurate.
Nah. I'll leave it up to interpretation.
He never mentions publishing in the interview. He was asked how is Sony helping and if they were providing money. He answered with the quote and also mentioned marketing as well. To say that Sony is not providing funding is inaccurate.
Yu Suzuki isn't indie-darling enough for journalists not to write sensationalist bullshit about. I feel so bad for him, since I've been wanting Shenmue III for over a decade and now that he's finally announced it people are giving him shit.
Kuchera was one of the ones who not only was saying "this is the future, get over it" but actively embracing the concept.
When the timed exclusivity ends, and the game finally goes multiplat, I wonder if all these weary writers linked to in the OP will still stay as "concerned." Cause surely this couldn't all be stemming from paid bias and general salt.
Kuchera was one of the ones who not only was saying "this is the future, get over it" but actively embracing the concept.
Great comparison. Ubisoft and Yu Suzuki are clear in the same boat. Why don't you compare the guy to Bill Gates next? I'm sure he can afford to fund Shenmue III. Why can't that hack Yu Suzuki do the same?
It really doesn't matter if not a single Sony cent goes to the Shenmue treasury. Sony has been able to extract good will off the back of a crowdfunding campaign, which unavoidably leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think people have rightfully been skeptical towards this.
You can argue semantics until your face turns blue, but the moment Shenmue was announced on Sony's stage, Sony got involved as far as public perception is concerned. Whether they clarified the funding aspect or not ultimately makes little difference. I'd like to think that Shenmue could have been equally (if not more) successful without Sony's involvement. It would at the very least not have suffered through all the negative reactions that way.
This stuff doesn't even phase me any more. In spite of the passive aggressive press coverage, Shenmue III was the most successful Kickstarter game ever. They can't take that away from us now.
Still, it's surprising that people really expect Sony to come out and say, "we gave them $500k." or $1 million. Companies never do that.
It's stemming from the uncertain funding avenues for Shenmue III, nothing more and nothing less.
Then why does everyone always talk about Sony and not the company that is providing more money than Sony is?
I'm not playing semantics with you.
The problem is that companies had also (up to that point) not used Kickstarter so blatantly as a gauge of public interest and marketing campaign.
I mean, of course it'd happened in the past (Penny Arcade, famously), but the mortgaging of our collective nostalgia has soured a lot of journalists to the entire idea of crowdfunding.
This stuff doesn't even phase me any more. In spite of the passive aggressive press coverage, Shenmue III was the most successful Kickstarter game ever. They can't take that away from us now.
The only reason "uncertain funding avenues" is an issue is if you think Yu Suzuki is a con-man.It's stemming from the uncertain funding avenues for Shenmue III, nothing more and nothing less.
The problem is that companies had also (up to that point) not used Kickstarter so blatantly as a gauge of public interest and marketing campaign.
I mean, of course it'd happened in the past (Penny Arcade, famously), but the mortgaging of our collective nostalgia has soured a lot of journalists to the entire idea of crowdfunding.
What are you talking about? How did Shenmue's kickstarter "blatantly gauge public interest" ?
And Bloodstained actually did it.
The problem is that companies had also (up to that point) not used Kickstarter so blatantly as a gauge of public interest and marketing campaign.
I mean, of course it'd happened in the past (Penny Arcade, famously), but the mortgaging of our collective nostalgia has soured a lot of journalists to the entire idea of crowdfunding.
I agree in part, because if we just look at the facts... it was a pretty poor thing they did. First announcing a kickstarter as the "only way this game is happening" to "oh, but don't worry, Sony is also paying for this game" 24 hours later after the project had already been funded. It can't be seen as anything other than intentional to not mention that so they could raise as much money as possible before anyone found out that they didn't really need their money in the first place.
You're sipping the kool-aid a little bit, I think. There is no "us" here. You're a consumer of a product that has yet to be made.