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Vic is the goddamn man.
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Thats because he's the producer now.

I thought 2nd Season was great all around. Season 3 was boring and Season 1 was good but not as good as 2 and 4.

Anyway, another great episode. I'm really starting to hate Aceveda now. He reminds me of so many douchebags I knew at school.

A lot of sex tonight.
 
The Experiment said:
Thats because he's the producer now.

I thought 2nd Season was great all around. Season 3 was boring and Season 1 was good but not as good as 2 and 4.

Anyway, another great episode. I'm really starting to hate Aceveda now. He reminds me of so many douchebags I knew at school.

A lot of sex tonight.
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can someone spoil the episode for me i missed it today and dont know ehre to get it from.
 
- David Aceveda told his ho straight up that he comes first. She denied him a piece because some rich guy wanted some. He changed that by threatening to bring him and her down.

- Shane's partner shot one of Mitchell's home dogs and told him that he (Shane) was not Antoine's bitch anymore. The girl who got shot is now buried in a heavily guarded place.

- Glenn Close is moving in the ghettos as a way of keeping it real.

- Vic and Danny nailed each other

- Vic gave $15k of the Money Train cash to his ex

- Ending came with Vic pointing his gun at Shane. Shane cried to Vic that he needs help getting out the hole he dug.

There was a Dutch/Claudette case but once again, it was shitty and boring.
 
I loved this weeks episode. The ending with shane and vic was just off the charts. The only thing I have a question about is did David Aceveda rape his hoe after she kicked the rich dude out? I know they role played before but it seemed a little different this time. I can't wait for vic to try convince ronnie and lem to help shane also.
 
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I loved this weeks episode. The ending with shane and vic was just off the charts. The only thing I have a question about is did David Aceveda rape his hoe after she kicked the rich dude out?
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I thought so at first, but then she started doing the whole "oh, it's so big" routine, which meant that she was probably just acting, like at the beginning of the other episode a few weeks back.

Does FX ever show older episodes of this show? I've only just gotten into it (I've only seen the last three episodes or so), and I get the distinct feeling I'm missing a whole lot of backstory.
 
There's not a lot of backstory. Well, there is but Season 4 is almost a fresh start. Seasons 1-3 were connected together well. Although I'd go online and try to download the first half of Season 2, only because its so fucking awesome.
 
did anyone else notice Mad Season (0r was it AiC? Im fairly sure it was a Mad Season tune) playing right at the beginning while Vick's in the car? Yet another reason The Shield kicks multiple flavors of ass.
 
Karine put the money in the bottom kitchen cupboard.

Who rekons Dutchboy's gonna accidently find it, question Karine who says Vic gave it to her, Dutch gets all suspecious, looks into Vic and even may lead back to the moneytrain.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
did anyone else notice Mad Season (0r was it AiC? Im fairly sure it was a Mad Season tune) playing right at the beginning while Vick's in the car? Yet another reason The Shield kicks multiple flavors of ass.
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It was AIC.
 
What did everyone think of the hour and a half episode.

Antwone got taken down. His sons a fag with pics. & the Striketeam is back.

Now that the villian has gone to jail now its focased on finding the killer of the 2 cops. I hope they still have Antwone included in some way.

While in America I got to see up close and personal 2 of the Shield's cast.

Glenn Close on a flight from LAX to JFK, and Anthony Anderson walking down Broadway in NY with his mates.

Wish I got to see Chiklis.
 
Army probably did the smartest thing I've ever seen a character do in this show. I would've told those lying killers to go fukk themselves too.

I love the show, but the Team CAN"T get back together. Not after all this. At least ONE of them has to feel some kind of lasting heat for all the shit they've pulled.
 
Odoul said:
Army probably did the smartest thing I've ever seen a character do in this show. I would've told those lying killers to go fukk themselves too.

I love the show, but the Team CAN"T get back together. Not after all this. At least ONE of them has to feel some kind of lasting heat for all the shit they've pulled.
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oh man this episode ended on too much of a happy note so you know things are gonna get fucked next 2 episodes.

I have a feeling one of the strike team members is gonna go down.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
oh man this episode ended on too much of a happy note so you know things are gonna get fucked next 2 episodes.

I have a feeling one of the strike team members is gonna go down.
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No doubt. They might do something crazy like have Tavon show in the last 5 minutes of the finale with a full memory.

I gotta say, Antwon Mitchell was probably the best villain this show's had. And considering the field that's saying something. He was the only guy to really outsmart and outscum the Strike Team. And he would've gotten away with it if it weren't for an illegal, 1 in a million fluke circumstance.
 
No, Armadillo in my opinion was the best villain. When his face was pressed into the burner by Vic, I knew thats when the show was going to be a keeper.

Was there an episode on last night? Didn't get a chance to watch it because I was working.

They might do something crazy like have Tavon show in the last 5 minutes of the finale with a full memory
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He did have a full memory. Then Vic and Lemonhead convinced Tavon that he hit Shane's fiancee before being asked by IAD on what happened that night. As a result, he probably lost his job, which is why we haven't heard anything from him this season. Although that would be tits if he were to show up at some point in time because he was awesome.

I'm still waiting for Vic walking in on Corrine getting nailed by Dutch. Maybe for the season finale.
 
Armadillo was the best bad guy, He edges out Antwan because he burned Ronnie's(of all people)face! Antwan did shoot a defenseless kid multiple times, but i liked Ronnie better than that little girl, so my vote goes to Armadillo



P.S. Lest we forget Armadillo's little butterfly mark on that little girl's cheek in season 2. Everyone i knew wanted a peice of him, his character was soooooooo grimy it was awesome tryin to guess what he would do next
 
Are they planning on a run through season 4 after it ends or some sort of marathon? I just finished season 3 on DVD and want to watch season 4 but don't want to start in the middle of the it. Thanks.
 
something needs to happen that fucks over the Strike Team hard in the last 2 eps. After all that happened the past 2 seasons, they can't just have the team solve everything and get happily back together.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
something needs to happen that fucks over the Strike Team hard in the last 2 eps. After all that happened the past 2 seasons, they can't just have the team solve everything and get happily back together.
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well season 3 did not end well for the team.
 
lol. I can't believe Corrine told Vic about her dating Dutch.

It was funny watching Lem tell Army that the ST gets into some serious business and if you're not 100% in, then leave.


Next week's episode should be good. Looks like Shane gets caught in an explosion.
 
I hope the Dutch/Corrine storyline doesn't end just like that...the sad part is that Dutch is right - Vic is a corrupt, cop-killing asshole. I was hoping there'd be more to it since it was built up so much.

Does anybody else feel that all the supporting cast has been getting short thrift since season 3? It's like The Shield has become The Vic Mackey Show and what used to be an ensemble is now a supporting cast.
 
Whats the summary for the recent episode?

Yeah, its been the Vic Mackey Show since Season 3. I'm watching Season One now and noticed how well balanced it was. Every character has plenty of airtime for plot development. Each season after that gets more and more oriented around Vic. Expect a spinoff show called 'Vic' (like Friends and Joey) after The Shield ends.
 
I am fucking loving Season 4. So much that goes on reminds me of Glenngarry Glen Ross with the verbal warfare and confrontations, oneupmanship and turnarounds. So many crazy plot threads running at the same time at a mile a munite. If you're buying this on DVD, buy Season 4 definetly, it's crazy good. I don't think the rest of the cast is getting short end of the stick, the balance of the show seems just fine the way it is. I was lead to believe before marathoning the Sheild DVD's to catch up to this season I had on Comcast DVR recorded that the show did not have very good character development, glad that was dead wrong. Starting to almost reassess what my favorite show is, this or The Wire, and The Shield has pacing that's a bit more viewer friendly (for some viewers, I'll sit through anything if it's important to the story).

Now about the latest episode:
Doesn't the strike team now have extra incentive to tie the cop murders to Antwan since Aceveda is still out to ring Vic's neck? That's one of the only things I can think of that would make Aceveda back off from making a deal with him. Time is running out on the strike team, I cannot wait to see how this plays out. Still two more episodes to go? Again, brilliant pacing with earlier episodes almost have a season finale feeling before the actual season finale
 
I think it has become a bit more Vic oriented, not to say that's completely a bad thing. But they have dropped a huge portion of the story on his personal and family life. For me, Dutch is the only other really interesting character. They had him strangle that cat way back when making you think he was going to be a wacky fuck up, then nothing. And instead they showed Aceveda as being a whore beating weirdo. I did think they had great stuff about Julian....and then his story was downgraded a bunch. I still don't know what to think of Close. I guess she's not as bad as I feared, but there still seems to be somthing missing. And there has been zero mention of Tevon.
 
Spectral Glider said:
I think it has become a bit more Vic oriented, not to say that's completely a bad thing. But they have dropped a huge portion of the story on his personal and family life. For me, Dutch is the only other really interesting character. They had him strangle that cat way back when making you think he was going to be a wacky fuck up, then nothing. And instead they showed Aceveda as being a whore beating weirdo. I did think they had great stuff about Julian....and then his story was downgraded a bunch. I still don't know what to think of Close. I guess she's not as bad as I feared, but there still seems to be somthing missing. And there has been zero mention of Tevon.
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yeah i wonder what happened with Dutch's psycho turn from S3? Did they just drop that like it never happened? Maybe he'll freakout in the last episode and rape Vic's wife or something. Aceveda's thing with the whore was kinda resolved, but i guess they can just say that the deaths of the 2 officers really had a deep effect on him so he cut that shit out for awhile. That girl cop Danni has pretty much disappeared, and it looked like they were gonna setup Julian as teaming up with Aceveda to take down Vic, but so far nothing on that. This has been a great season, but if feels like they are gonna leave a LOT of loose ends at the end of this one to (hopefully) setup for Season 5.
 
This season is just awesome. The 2 cops who died have really really affected everyone it is good to see. Usually when 2 back ground characters die it is meaningless. I was loving army till the last moments of the last episode. I can't believe what a bitch army really is I would hope he goes down but he would take the strike team with him. I was unsure of close coming onto this type of show but now admit I was wrong Rawlings is 1 great character. I am bummed that corine told vic about her and dutch god I wanted vic to catch them in bed in the worst way. I think that is a classic tv moment the writers passed up. They have thrown everything and the kitchen sink at us so far this season I can only hope the season finale can live up to the build up.
 
Army's a little bitch.

Lem and Vic were giving him you gotta be with us all the way or your out.

I rekon Acevada is gonna try to get to him. His finally got ammo on the Strike Team. Round 2.
 
There's a reason to hate every character on the show, but it's more of a love to hate type of thing, as they are great characters. Well, most of them, that female cop, Danielle, I've hated since season 1 when she shot that arab for no good reason at all showing her lack of common sense. Situations like are of the kind that make me hate cops. She deserved all the shit she got from that one. Plus she's nothing more than a piece of work ass for Vic.

I love the characters Vic, Rawlings (Glen Close), and Aceveda. They command respect by just walking into the room. Far as Dutch's psycho turn, I'm wondering what that will lead to. He was obviously trying to get into the mind of a killer, but there's a point where you can get too deep, something Dutch is aware of.

Julians story didn't have much legs to it, and I'm glad he's now showing a point of view that needs to be on the show. Somebody has to challenge the legitmacy of the drug war, for all of Close's efforts, you know it's going to mean shit.
 
Despite the hard time they're having juggling some of the story lines, it's still the best cop show out there. It just oozes so much energy that I find some other hour long dramas painful to watch.
 
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Despite the hard time they're having juggling some of the story lines, it's still the best cop show out there. It just oozes so much energy that I find some other hour long dramas painful to watch.
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I completely agree the show is a damn high energy show. It really shows in the action scenes I'll admit when they broke down the nigerian's door and shots started fly I got out of my seat rooting for vic and shane. Watching shane and vic cover each other as they are trying to advance was out of this world. Then lem shooting that guy at the last second to save shane's ass was enough to exhaust me. No show does better action scenes than the shield. The characters themselves are so damn intense that dialog can also be high energy. Like when antwon and rawlings going back and forth was amazing. This has so far been my favorite season of the shield. This season of the shield tops off what I think is the best year ever in TV. Close deserves to win an emmy for her work on the shield this year rawlings is by far the most intense,smartest and toughest female on TV.
 
Just saw that Michael Moore Doco Bowling For Colombine.

Noticed in the he segment with Corporate Cops, the guy he was arresting was Dutch :lol

Handcuffed and his shirt taken off. Before The Shield fame.

new ep today... yay.
 
I think they've dropped a lot of storylines for the rest of the cast in favor of the whole strike team thing.

This is what bothers me - on the Season 3 DVD set there's a documentary on how they actually write the episodes, and in it they talk about how the Strike Team is the "A" story (most important) followed by Dutch + Claudette as the "B" story, another group of characters as the "C" story, etc. The problem I have with this is that I wish that they would mix it up on occasion. Have the strike team as background characters during an investigation of Dutch and Claudette's - or have Aceveda be the protagonist during an ep. Heck, they even did a Lemonhead-centric episode in Season 1, now he's been relegated to mostly background. Julian's troubles with his sexuality have been completely ignored this season - it's as though they weren't able to make the story go anywhere so they decided to ignore it. He should still be facing harassment from his fellow cops if this were trying to be a bit more true-to-life.

My favorite season so far has been season 2...it has the most interesting antagonist (Armadillo), a lot of development for Dutch and Claudette, the Money Train heist, the beginnings of tension between Shane and Vic...but most importantly, Vic didn't dominate the show as much as he does now. The fact that we're following Vic every step of the investigation makes him, to me, less dangerous and unpredictable. This is a guy who killed a cop in the first season pilot, after all - we should sympathize with him but always remember, the guy is scum.

Dutch and Claudette should get their own spin-off show - they're great characters who've basically been spinning their wheels all season and not going anywhere. And the cases they've been handling are crap - the cuddler rapist in Season 3 bored me, and the killer they can't convict in this one...maybe Dutch'll kill Corrine to try to figure out this guy's mentality, lol.
 
Fuck that ending was powerful Aceveda got ripped apart.

my bet is that Lem is a dead man. Im sure Glen Close is gone too since her contract was only for one year.
 
I bet it's either Glenn Close's character or Lem or Ronnie. Maybe even Julian (though they've already killed two uniformed policement this season so a third one might be stretching things).

God, I hope it's not Dutch. They're setting him up for an interesting character arc this year, since he's fed up and not going to take it anymore - I was cheering when he told Vic he wanted to get things settled. I mean, yeah, Vic would have kicked his ass but I still think it's great that Dutch stood up to the guy after Vic's been riding him for four seasons.
 
The problem I have with this is that I wish that they would mix it up on occasion
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They did for the first season. After that, its been more and more Strike Team with less everything else. I enjoy the shit that the Strike Team gets into but there's absolutely no development with any characters now. The Dutch/Corrine dating thing was so tacked on, it seemed almost last priority.

Ronnie has been dead weight since, well ever.

Missed this episode again but I'll catch it on Friday.
 
Quoting my friend: "They blew up a guy 10 minutes into the episode, and now it's at the end and we forgot, because something more intense just happened? Holy fuck this show is awesome."

The last three episodes of season 4 have been pretty much better than all the really fucking good season finales of the previous seasons. I can't even imagine how good next week is going to be.

Season 4 >>>>>>>> Season 1 >= Season 3 >>>>> Season 2

Season 2 was really great until the end of the Armadillo arc. Yeah, all the stuff after it was really great setup for Season 3 (and that's a big part of why Season 3 was so great), but it was soooo tedious to watch, although the finale was pretty good.
 
That was a pretty intense episode. The Russian C4 chair, haha, that made me laugh uncontrollably, and yell out "Holy Shit"! :lol :lol

Aceveda getting ripped was fucking great, and cements Glenn Close as a worthy cast addition. Wasn't sure about her joining the season before it all started, and was just "ok" with most of the season, but DAMN. "Stick it up YO ASS" :lol :lol

Ronnie can NEVER DIE.

My theory is, he's some deep undercover IAD agent, why else does he seem so background, yet has been there since the beginning. But really, I'd like some development SOMETIME, give him something to do!
 
I was right about Aceveda asking Antwon to off Juan!


Anyway, powerful episode. Dutch finally not taking shit anymore! He whooped that cop's arse(which I forget his name). We didn't see Army in this episode. He's signed up for 12 episodes. I bet he'll be in the finale and maybe die?

I loved the quote "You're not a cop......you never were."


My theory is, he's some deep undercover IAD agent, why else does he seem so background, yet has been there since the beginning
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Pretty far fetched. There's already an IAD cop watching over Vic. The guy who played in Con Air who was the DEA agent on the plane in the beginning.


If Lem does die, then I'm going to cry. :(
 
Can someone explain why they straped real C4 on the chair of the Russian. The way they were talking made it sound like it was fake in order to get the guys to talk, then suddenly it blows up!

Mann
 
manngc said:
Can someone explain why they straped real C4 on the chair of the Russian. The way they were talking made it sound like it was fake in order to get the guys to talk, then suddenly it blows up!

Mann
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I'm confused on that one myself. I guess once I saw the resulting gibs and proceeded to giggle and clap I just forgot all about it.
 
I think they were going to attempt to bluff the other guy into thinking "we'll blow up your boss if you don't talk" never really intending to. To make it look real, they put on C4. Then the stupid Russian tipped the chair over on them.

$5 the Russian girl misled him into knocking himself over ;)
 
Another kick ass episode of the shield. I jumped out of my chair in celebration when the russian blew himself up. Dutch finally snapping was great to see it was a long time coming. The fight made me laugh I hope the dutch who wanted to fight vic will stay a while. I think the dutch character with some brassballs could be pretty damn good. The ending with rawlings and vic going after alsevada was damn powerfull. I can't wait for tuesday the season finale of the shield will wrap up the best year of TV that I can ever remember.
 
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