VGChampion
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There is a limit on old Simpsons you know? We had an entire thread on it. I don't watch new Simpsons but it's interesting to see people actually talk about it now.
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Patrick Bateman
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Well, this is surreal. I just read that Seth McFarlane is going to show up on the season finale.
A man who made his career on ripping off The Simpsons three times, had a joke that involved one of his characters murdering the entire family, and he's allowed on the show.
A man who made his career on ripping off The Simpsons three times, had a joke that involved one of his characters murdering the entire family, and he's allowed on the show.
Patrick Bateman
Member
And now for a bunch of seasons the simpsons are ripping Family Guy. Ironic.
Seth is awesome, and just for him i'm going to watch the finale.
Exterminieren
Banned
The ripping off allegations are so overplayed. The shows are so wildly tonally different that it really doesn't hold water.
Don't get me wrong, good Simpsons is miles ahead of any MacFarlane stuff with the possible exception of the most outstanding bits of American Dad, but I'm really not seeing the ripoff.
But the internet has shown me quite a few videos copy-paste jokes.
Where is your god now?!
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Saying Family Guy ripped off The Simpsons is like saying The Simpsons ripped off The Flintstones. They're all cartoons. Sometimes they'll share jokes. Get over it.
Also, when did they do a Robot Chicken couch gag? Is that new?
Also, when did they do a Robot Chicken couch gag? Is that new?
Don't act like there aren't more similarities than them both just being cartoons. A stereotypical American family living in an average sized town. An obese, moronic dad who works a blue collar job. A reasonable, stay-at-home mom who keeps the man in check. A son and a daughter, one of them being a social outcast and the other being stupid. A baby genius that no one takes note of.
Take the exact same set up, and then make satirical jokes about the USA, obscure pop culture references, etc, etc. The only differences between the shows are that early Simpsons could still have a coherent, logical story. Family Guy just shoved in a bunch of non sequiturs and made stupid people feel smart for recognizing the celebrity.
Big Baybee
Member
I can't believe people still say things like that. None of Seth's shows even remotely remind me of the Simpson's. It's just a baseless accusation.
The Real Abed
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TV is built on plagiarism! If it wasn't for The Honeymooners, we would have never had The Flintstones! If someone hadn't made Sergeant Bilko, there'd be no Top Cat! Huckleberry Hound, Chief Wiggum, Yogi Bear? Ha! Andy Griffith, Edward G. Robinson and Art Carney! You take away our right to steal ideas? Where are they gonna come from? Her??
"How 'bout.... Ghost.. Mutt?"
See You Next Wednesday
Banned
Typical nuclear family cast sitcom. There were HUNDREDS of those before the Simpsons ever aired (if not thousands).
The strongest influence The Simpsons had on Family Guy was the non-sequitur cutaway gags the Simpsons started to use in seasons 4-6.
Besides, Family Guy was based off Seth's sort lived Nickelodeon cartoon more than anything.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I didn't say they didn't steal ideas. I just don't think either show is a copy of the other. They're two completely different things. Well, 4 different things if we compare his other shows. All 4 shows are different. Sure jokes and ideas are going to get borrowed, but they're not even the same. Family Guy has been completely different in its execution from the beginning in 2000... 1999? Whenever it started. Even now 15 years later both The Simpsons and Family Guy have moved down even more separate paths. American Dad is nothing like Family Guy and Cleveland is even more different.
Exterminieren
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Do you have any idea of the hundreds of different TV sitcoms that had basically that exact format before the Simpsons came along? That's standard nuclear family stuff, right there.
trab pu kcip
Member
for real? family guy is the most presumptuous copy ever. it's just way more stupid and shameless than the simpsons but other than that...oh and bad and ugly animation. I forgot that.
it's funny though how the new simpsons episodes feel more like they copied family guy than following classic simpsons material...so it's a circle I guess.
UberTag
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He really is. Of this there is no doubt in my mind.
It was nice to hear Seth MacFarlane call him out in that one Family Guy commentary track although I believe they've made peace since then.
It will air preceding the new episode this Sunday night. It will probably be the only segment of the episode worth watching.
Unless seeing Bart fantasize in Russian about making whoopee is something that works for you.
I liked him better when he thought all girls had cooties and that "how about a nice pair of bongos" birthday card perplexed him.
You should really just catch the couch gag on YouTube. There will be a new ep worth watching next week.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I sometimes complain about the overly long couch gags they do these days, but I'm inclined to agree.
What's next week's episode compared to this week's?
I watch every episode, good and bad, so it doesn't matter to me.
UberTag
Member
I typically hate couch gags as they take precious time away from the episodes (which need as much time as they can get these days). Love it when Selman excludes them.
This week, though... this ep is going to be garbage. I'm disappointed the couch gag is only 90 seconds. Wish they just let the Robot Chicken guys go nuts for 22 minutes.
Two episodes air next week to close out the season.
The first ep (The Saga of Carl Carlson) is being showrun by someone who gives a damn (not Al Jean) is written by the guy who made a bunch of Futurama nerds cry (Jurassic Bark) and directed by the guy who did Eternal Moonshine of the Spotless Mind. There are very few episodes each season worth legitimately getting excited for and this is one of those times.
The second ep (Dangers on a Train) features Seth MacFarlane in what will probably be the most memorable guest role of the season (not that that's saying much). He'll sing. He'll do Seth stuff. He'll infuriate Homer. That ep would have been fun to watch being recorded with Seth and Dan playing off one another but I'm not sure the episode itself will be anything worthwhile.
The Real Abed
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Man, that would be fucking amazing. The Simpsons Robot Chicken special. If they can do Star Wars three times, why not The Simpsons? Fucking hell would that be brilliant. And would totally make up for putting Katy Perry in an otherwise great puppet act a few Christmases ago. (Seriously, Katy Perry? Why not someone not terrible?)
trab pu kcip
Member
I miss the old thread. where we didn't talk about MacFucklane.
We can't be friends anymore ...
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
Say what you want about MacFarlane's other shows, but leave American Dad out of it.
Then again, there was no stopping him watching adult channels when they stole cable.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Word. Clearly nothing is quite the same as Classic Simpsons, but some things are still not awful.
Is that supposed to be an example of awful or not awful?
It looks awful to me. I've never watched that show (or anything in the McFarlaneverse outside of a few of the early FG episodes).
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
You should try to watch the show with an open mind. The comedy isn't anything like Family Guy (skip the first few episodes, though.)
peanutbutterlatte
Member
It's hard to explain, but it's just plain better than Family Guy in pretty much every conceivable way. No "Remember that time when Gary Oldman tuned our piano?" cutaway bullshit.
Yep. Also they do that in TCS, no cutaway gags whatsoever.
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
What's unfortunate for American Dad is that the first few episodes of the first season were meant to replace Family Guy, so it had similar jokes. When Family Guy returned, MacFarlane left the show to others to manage, allowing it to become a significantly different show.
Anyone who watched just those early episodes would think they're identical shows. American Dad and Bob's Burgers battle it out every Sunday for the crown, now.
Anyone who watched just those early episodes would think they're identical shows. American Dad and Bob's Burgers battle it out every Sunday for the crown, now.
trab pu kcip
Member
still it looks and feels like shit. it's an entirely different level than what simpsons used to be.
I hate what has become of cartoons and animation so much. not only concerning the content and wit but also the visuals. you can see that it's heartless mass-produced throw away crap right away. everything looks like plastic surgery damn it. give me back my wonky lines
I remember hearing about this but I've only just manage to watch it. It's awesome!
"Meeting, adjourned!" looooool
The Real Abed
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One of the greatest moments on the show. If not the greatest moment of the early seasons.
Word. Clearly nothing is quite the same as Classic Simpsons, but some things are still not awful.
Word. Clearly nothing is quite the same as Classic Simpsons, but some things are still not awful.
THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
Here's some of the scene in context:
THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uoKKVgxqUE
An early season 1 episode which is really good, as are most episodes.
http://americandad.wikia.com/wiki/Finances_With_Wolves
I said it.
Messypandas
Member
Not from the same scene here, but one of my favorite lines from Bart is; "As much as I hate that man right now, ya gotta love that suit."
oh Homer, you're as smart as you are handsome.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
"Well, here we are. The star of The Blue Lagoon, and me, the Blue-Haired Goon... what the...? That's terrible!"
ClassyPenguin
Banned
The Bartman is a true gem.
The Real Abed
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That is so 1991.
To be fair, Jean proved himself to be an amazing showrunner (albeit with Mike Reiss sharing duties) back in seasons 3 and 4. I recall when the Scully era finally ended, fans claimed seasons 14 and 15 to be an improvement (personally, I'd take the best of Scully over the best of Jean, with occasional exceptions).
What I question is the reasoning in giving this man leadership of the series for so damn long. He took over early on Season 13, and has been at it ever since; season 25 starts this year.
Think about that.
He'll soon have handled the series longer than the classic era and the Scully years combined.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Excellence. From that I went into the not-as-good-but-still-awesome Deep Deep Trouble.
If interpreted literally, Bart throws a party without permission, and Homer and Marge's reaction is to toss him into the depths of hell.
Old Simpsons rocks.
EDIT: To reaffirm the above statement, what other show can still blow minds so many years after the fact? From Dead Homer Society:
At his first AA meeting, Homer bails out the window.
At his next meeting, there’s this:
The Real Abed
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Bart: Nothing you say can upset us. We're the MTV generation!
Lisa: We feel neither highs nor lows!
Homer: Really? What's it like?
Lisa: ..Eh.
Lisa: We feel neither highs nor lows!
Homer: Really? What's it like?
Lisa: ..Eh.
PeakPointMatrix
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This outrage is so misplaced, come on. The animation industry is tightly knit and everyone knows everyone. Both crews get along fine and hold no ill will towards eachother. Any perceived riffs on competing shows is just friendly elbow ribbing, nothing more. Do people honestly believe entire production teams are enemies with eachother? lol. There's actively Simpsons staff working on FG and vice versa as well as every other show in production. People migrate from show to show all the time.
Also, "The Flinstones", "The Jetsons", and "Wait till your Father gets home" say hi. The Simpsons wouldn't exist if it didn't "rip off" these shows, not even counting all of the live action sitcom influences.
