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The Tales of Vesperia |OT|
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I was level 15 when fighting Gattuso. It helps if you can get him to stun himself with the flower at least once, then quickly go into Over Limit and continue to hit him then use a Base Arte + Arcane Arte combination when you're Over Limit is about to end. It's also very important that you attack him from behind! I've found that to be most useful.Firestorm said:
My Arms Your Hearse
Banned
Jirotrom said:
When you start a new game from a completed game file you can spend the accumulated grade on upgrades (and in a few cases, downgrades).
Things like more or less health, TP, EXP. You can retain your titles and (most) items. Save all your world map data and lots of other things.
My Arms Your Hearse said:
Judy, Yuri, Estelle and Rita. It's more like he does the healing when he OLs D: I'm on hard to note. But I figure a unknown video would be plenty of interesting footage to observe.
If you're ever so curious yourself:
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4415556
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4415653
I thought Sink or maybe Van was bad. This guy takes the cake so far D:
My Arms Your Hearse
Banned
I'd sub Judith for Raven and have him set to cast only spells. Though at that point in the game his selection probably isn't too hot if you're not playing on an enhanced file (still better than dumb AI running in to be slaughtered). He is also a decent healer with Love Arrow once it has had 300 or more uses (fires four arrows at once with no recast).
Also, as a side note, he is really abusable with Dark Chase or whatever the name is (shoots a dark looking arrow that tracks the enemy). It does a decent chunk of damage and... as you use it more you get more and more arrows. So it starts doing a TON of damage and also with the low damage skills you can rack up MASSIVE Fatal Strike chains because the move will continually trigger them off.
Just in general, Archers + Free Run = totally broken. If nothing else, just use him solo. You can keep your distance and heal yourself with virtually no cast time, and you should have little problem wearing him down though it will take a long time. Enemies in Vesperia have way more base health than in Abyss (though you do more damage also).
I've played most of the game on Hard and have had no troubles with any of the bosses or Giant Monsters. Especially now that the three casters have their big spells. All you really have to do is run around with Repede and keep their attention. The spells with shred them though spamming things like Light Spear (haven't gotten the altered version yet, though if it works as I imagine, it would be best to stick with the original move) will also add a TON of damage. This is especially effective considering that many of the good spells draw enemies into a compact area so Repede can hit them all with ease.
I control Repede btw. His speed is unparalleled and he has good moves for hitting and controlling crowds (light spear) and knocking bosses down when neeeded, etc (Forget the name... spiraling torpedo move... also later on ghost wolf to spin them in place).
The most important thing is just to make sure that at any given moment THERE IS ONLY ONE CHARACTER NEAR HIM because his Hi-ougi is DEADLY and has a wide range. The battle can be flying along just fine then BAM everyone is dead. I really wish they would make the bosses in these games harder. It was the same thing with Abyss. They are either laughable easy or they instant kill you with a Hi-ougi. There is no in-between.
The real problem is free run. They need to make some fundamental changes to the battle system so that free run doesn't totally trivialize things. Which they should do, as taking out Free Run would be suicide. Being totally stuck in a line is LAME
I also feel obligated to metion how HORRIBLE Estellise's AI is. Just TERRIBLE. Which is a shame considering how useful she is for most of the game (if not all of it). Everyone at full health? Here comes a huge TP sucking healing spell! Set only to cast? No problem! I'll run into melee when people need to be healed! The only damn way she EVER cures status effects is having her set specifically to it as well. Meh. She requires a ton of babysitting in boss fights.
Also, as a side note, he is really abusable with Dark Chase or whatever the name is (shoots a dark looking arrow that tracks the enemy). It does a decent chunk of damage and... as you use it more you get more and more arrows. So it starts doing a TON of damage and also with the low damage skills you can rack up MASSIVE Fatal Strike chains because the move will continually trigger them off.
Just in general, Archers + Free Run = totally broken. If nothing else, just use him solo. You can keep your distance and heal yourself with virtually no cast time, and you should have little problem wearing him down though it will take a long time. Enemies in Vesperia have way more base health than in Abyss (though you do more damage also).
I've played most of the game on Hard and have had no troubles with any of the bosses or Giant Monsters. Especially now that the three casters have their big spells. All you really have to do is run around with Repede and keep their attention. The spells with shred them though spamming things like Light Spear (haven't gotten the altered version yet, though if it works as I imagine, it would be best to stick with the original move) will also add a TON of damage. This is especially effective considering that many of the good spells draw enemies into a compact area so Repede can hit them all with ease.
I control Repede btw. His speed is unparalleled and he has good moves for hitting and controlling crowds (light spear) and knocking bosses down when neeeded, etc (Forget the name... spiraling torpedo move... also later on ghost wolf to spin them in place).
The most important thing is just to make sure that at any given moment THERE IS ONLY ONE CHARACTER NEAR HIM because his Hi-ougi is DEADLY and has a wide range. The battle can be flying along just fine then BAM everyone is dead. I really wish they would make the bosses in these games harder. It was the same thing with Abyss. They are either laughable easy or they instant kill you with a Hi-ougi. There is no in-between.
The real problem is free run. They need to make some fundamental changes to the battle system so that free run doesn't totally trivialize things. Which they should do, as taking out Free Run would be suicide. Being totally stuck in a line is LAME
I also feel obligated to metion how HORRIBLE Estellise's AI is. Just TERRIBLE. Which is a shame considering how useful she is for most of the game (if not all of it). Everyone at full health? Here comes a huge TP sucking healing spell! Set only to cast? No problem! I'll run into melee when people need to be healed! The only damn way she EVER cures status effects is having her set specifically to it as well. Meh. She requires a ton of babysitting in boss fights.
My Arms Your Hearse said:
Yeah, like i said eearlier, I've been hiougi-ed frequently by the guy. Need to keep my distance and modify the ai. I noticed in the video the guy was constantly tweaking the AI. To note in the video it was Judy, Karole, Repede and Raven. Be nice if I could have absolute with Raven now, but yeah his moveset isn't too hot yet. I know I need to give Repede more love, I was actually swapping out Rita and Estelle for Raven and Repede while I was crawling around the current dungeon.
edit: and actually maybe it's the spellcasters? My Estelle seems to behave pretty well on default and heals when needed. On the other hand, Rita has this habit of going to melee enemies, when she should be helping me out by nuking them.
I just want to say that Kaufman is really cool.
Well, that and thanks to Jonnyram's suggestions, I've gotten a bit better at the combat. The
skill is really helping, too, and I'm getting better at
now that I've started turning people's abilities off in order to get the meter down faster.
Well, that and thanks to Jonnyram's suggestions, I've gotten a bit better at the combat. The
Combo Plus
fatal strikes
=GabrielKnight=
Member
I want this game so bad
Damn Namco
Damn Namco
WickedLaharl
Member
oh my god i just played for 5 1/2 hours.
i now know why most people feel about estelle as they do especially after
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i now know why most people feel about estelle as they do especially after
the ocean scene
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Christ, this game comes to a screeching halt after beating Barbos, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene.
Why doesn't this game have a "skip cutscene" option? Is it a New Game+ option only? I can't imagine the 15 hour achievement is obtainable with this insufferable amount of needless cutscenes.
Anyway, Yuri's hat is the best thing about the game so far! Hot.
Why doesn't this game have a "skip cutscene" option? Is it a New Game+ option only? I can't imagine the 15 hour achievement is obtainable with this insufferable amount of needless cutscenes.
Anyway, Yuri's hat is the best thing about the game so far! Hot.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Sorry, the game has some issues, it's very far from perfect and does a LOT to further perpetuate the sterotype that Japanese developers aren't moving forward in their genres. It's still my favorite action RPG series and I only have few issues when I'm actually exploring and battling, but even still this one just deserves some criticism coming off of the Destiny remake.Jonnyram said:
So I guess around here unless the creator insults a message board, we can't be critical of a game.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Eternal Sonata is a shorter game and its cutscenes at least flow with the game properly (not step step cutscene, step step cutscene, step step cutscene skit step cutscene skit skit). Plus, you can skip them, that alone gives the advantage to Eternal Sonata.Wizpig said:
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Bah, not getting IU for another 4 days, may have to sell some games to get this.
OK, perhaps I've missed something simple, but I'm stuck in Heliord with the quest to "seduce the guards". Yeah, seems like a side quest or something, but I can't continue to Torim as Yuri insists on exploring this area some more. There isn't a damn thing left in Heliord. How on earth do you actually proceed?! I hate when the game comes up with some sort of idea and then gives you absolutely no clue how to proceed with it (forcing you to run around and press A on everything).
They presented it as if the idea was something they would carry out right then and there (I chose to have Karol distract the guards), but then you're just back to wandering around. I can leave Heliord, but not on the side of the city necessary to proceed onward.
So, what exactly are you supposed to do and what did I miss?
They presented it as if the idea was something they would carry out right then and there (I chose to have Karol distract the guards), but then you're just back to wandering around. I can leave Heliord, but not on the side of the city necessary to proceed onward.
So, what exactly are you supposed to do and what did I miss?
I haven't played ES, but from what I can tell using videos, the presentation is much better than Vesperia. The cutscene presentation in Vesperia is quite lousy. They literally upgraded nothing from the last generation games. Lots of quick, disjointed animations mixed with text boxes. It's very dated in that regard. ES appears to present full on cutscenes with solid animation. Vesperia is an improvement over stuff like Symphonia, but it's not different from Abyss. It's one of the most disappointing aspects of the game, I think.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Indeed. It's a bad design, get used to it in this game (there's another one right after this).dark10x said:
Talk to the shop keeper.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Most places will refund the difference on an item that drops its price within their return period (Target's is 90 days, by the way). You could just get one now and grab the $50 refund next week (save your receipt!).Case said:
My Arms Your Hearse
Banned
dark10x said:
You go back to the Inn/Shop and talk to the store keeper to get what you need.
Awesome, thanks for that. I'm about 40 hours in, and I had no idea how the FS Chains were supposed to work! (I figured you had to chain multiple enemys in a row or something).kiryogi said:
Game is awesome, although the difficulty could be a bit better tuned. Normal is too damn easy and Hard is too hard :lol
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
They are bad. Which one was that?Jonnyram said:
Ooh yeah! Guess what this is. Probably the worst achievement images in the world. Great effort, Tales Studio!
Is there anything important in the door to the right of the stairs in the room next to where Yuri gets trapped in the Ghost Ship, more bad design choices basically lock you from going back there even after the rest of the ship has been unlocked with the other party. I figure it's a Gel or a Weapon I can buy in the next town, but I'm still curious.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
The game just locked up on me, trying to enter the ship from a beach right after a battle (as the monster were still loading, if that matters), I just saved prior so no losses but just a heads up out there.
Robobandit
Member
I don't know if anyone else is having this problem... but is the A.I. ignoring anyone else's commands?
I am at what I can only guess is the first boss and he's whipping my ass. I'm trying to tell my allies to "Leave it to me" but they keep jumping in to fight and getting killed.
Is the AI broken or am I missing something?
I am at what I can only guess is the first boss and he's whipping my ass. I'm trying to tell my allies to "Leave it to me" but they keep jumping in to fight and getting killed.
Is the AI broken or am I missing something?
There's an NPC that mentions a fan club for Flynn called...
:lol :lol
So, I accidentally got too close to the wrong city while exploring the ocean, and saved without realizing I couldn't get back out. Lost some progress, but now I'm using this little guide to hopefully avoid missing anything. It seems to be very light on spoilers, at least.
the Flynn Defense Force
So, I accidentally got too close to the wrong city while exploring the ocean, and saved without realizing I couldn't get back out. Lost some progress, but now I'm using this little guide to hopefully avoid missing anything. It seems to be very light on spoilers, at least.
Jonnyram said:
Ooh yeah! Guess what this is. Probably the worst achievement images in the world. Great effort, Tales Studio!
Inevitable port to the PS3 confirmed
not really
My cousin's a sucker for jRPG's, and hopefully he bought this game. I'll hijack his 360 (unless he forces me to play through some hard areas in NG2, I got stuck at that silver fishy boss :lol ).
PataHikari
Banned
Papercuts said:Turning off healing spells isn't a really good idea, she just uses them at the wrong times a lot.
You have four shortcut slots. Use them.
I don't have much trouble beating him. Abusing Free Run to circle-strafe makes the fight manageable. I'm just having trouble doing both the stun thing AND beating him in the same fight.Id. said:
Also, is there any combination of settings that will make Estelle use First Aid non-stop? Like in Eternia I remember there being a "heal if under 75%" or something which made Meredy basically always heal. I need that on Estelle >.> And I also need to get the Item Thrower skill for Yuri. Finally figured out why I couldn't use items on other characters XD
Princess Skittles said:
Try using X+A. And Destiny R wasn't all that, battle system was, but everything else as Team Destiny usually is doesn't hold much ground against Team Symphonia design decisions. But let's not go into this. Only mentioning because as said, you've really had not much positive to say about Vesperia.