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The Tales of Vesperia |OT|
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kiryogi said:
Oh shit, I just left
the Guild City (name excapes me ATM)
bridge is gone
So, Estelle
? Seriously, I wish people would make some meager attempt to mention where their spoilers are.
Anyway, I've been playing mostly on hard mode so far, currently level 25 and I just gained control of the ship. There have been a few battles that made me drop down to normal, but I've beaten most of the bosses on hard so far. My biggest problem is that I keep going broke from buying recovery items. Hooray for finally getting the Moon Selector though.
goes topless in the ending
Anyway, I've been playing mostly on hard mode so far, currently level 25 and I just gained control of the ship. There have been a few battles that made me drop down to normal, but I've beaten most of the bosses on hard so far. My biggest problem is that I keep going broke from buying recovery items. Hooray for finally getting the Moon Selector though.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
So, Team Symphonia sucks.
In order for this series to work on a fully 3D field, they need to get rid of the lines you are stuck on with the targeted enemy. They need to find a way to make what's now "free run" the main movement option, that's what it's going to take for me to play another 3D Tales game. The controls get way too sloppy trying to weave in and out of being surrounded by enemies to effectively facing your target (or the clunky process of switching a target after you weave out of trouble).
Also, the camera doesn't move when giant monsters are in front of you and they don't make them transparent either, I ran into a few spots where I'm blinded and had to free run my way to visibility. The character AI is also blissfully retarded too often, Rita seems to freeze up and completely cease all actions in boss fights, other guys start spells within range of dangerous attacks, etc. and they're no helpful in comboing at all.
But, I do love that they took one of my favorite skill systems from Final Fantasy IX and item/weapon crafting in insanely addictive, those are big, big plusses for me in this edition. The sub-weapons and accessories are an awesome way to customize your character's looks in addition to traditional costumes. Final Strikes and Base Artes are awesome as well, so there is some positive stuff I'm getting out of it, I just think that their insistence of sticking to the control scheme of the 2D games in the 3D ones is killing it.
Also, just a heads up, be on the lookout for team members that have "Minimal Damage" equipped. :lol
In order for this series to work on a fully 3D field, they need to get rid of the lines you are stuck on with the targeted enemy. They need to find a way to make what's now "free run" the main movement option, that's what it's going to take for me to play another 3D Tales game. The controls get way too sloppy trying to weave in and out of being surrounded by enemies to effectively facing your target (or the clunky process of switching a target after you weave out of trouble).
Also, the camera doesn't move when giant monsters are in front of you and they don't make them transparent either, I ran into a few spots where I'm blinded and had to free run my way to visibility. The character AI is also blissfully retarded too often, Rita seems to freeze up and completely cease all actions in boss fights, other guys start spells within range of dangerous attacks, etc. and they're no helpful in comboing at all.
But, I do love that they took one of my favorite skill systems from Final Fantasy IX and item/weapon crafting in insanely addictive, those are big, big plusses for me in this edition. The sub-weapons and accessories are an awesome way to customize your character's looks in addition to traditional costumes. Final Strikes and Base Artes are awesome as well, so there is some positive stuff I'm getting out of it, I just think that their insistence of sticking to the control scheme of the 2D games in the 3D ones is killing it.
Also, just a heads up, be on the lookout for team members that have "Minimal Damage" equipped. :lol
Princess Skittles said:
Targeting issues? Are you on manual or semi-auto? And removing said line would more or less make it Star Ocean. Tales has and always will be based around LINEAR motion battle.
You could actually pay attention to what skills you're learning and unequip them.
I already have both of them -_-; I was actually trying to do the levelling trick, to see whether I had any hope of getting to 200 on my first run. I left it playing for about 2 hours and only gained a couple of levels, so I decided it's just not going to work -- it'll require the 10x exp option from the grade shop at the very least, unless some mystical exp monster appears later in the game. That said, I've heard if you use the 1 damage skill, you get tons of bonus exp? (and if you set it to hard you get 1.5x exp also). Guess I'll try a couple of things before I give up totally, but I figure 10x exp will probably mean 1/10 of the playtime, right?kiryogi said:
Should be done with the gigants soon too. Just two to go, and I've fought a bunch of them twice to get the items too.
Fenrir
the crystal cave in the north
Himuro said:
Chain is one of the ones that modify your artes. Talk to one of the guys in town and he explains, but basically it changes your artes, in Yuri's case, Chain changes your Azure Edge to a more powerful version and your Burst arte to a really cool fire-based one. If you use the upgraded one 100 times, you learn it as a regular arte. Same TP cost, but more damage and it looks cooler
Himuro said:
Look at your arte list, they have a different icon, generally the first ones you get are Azure Wolf Strike or Crushing Eagle. They're actually really good for combos, because you can do your slashes -----> Base arte ------> Arcane Arte.
Ooops, they're called Arcane Artes, sorry for the confusion!
Id: Not glitched for me, got that achievement earlier on.
WickedLaharl
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i just need to know one thing at this point.
when does estelle stop being so annoying? like in an average of hours.
when does estelle stop being so annoying? like in an average of hours.
Secret mission 17 complete! YES. Onward ho Brave Vesperia!
WickedLaharl: by annoying you mean being so selfless? If that's the case. never. She's practically Collet 2 as someone keeps insisting, but I find her a lot more tolerable. Her curiosity is really cute and she's not dumb as a brick like Collet.
Onward ho Brave Vesperia!WickedLaharl: by annoying you mean being so selfless? If that's the case. never.
She's practically Collet 2 as someone keeps insisting, but I find her a lot more tolerable. Her curiosity is really cute and she's not dumb as a brick like Collet.PataHikari
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Princess Skittles said:
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Princess Skittles said:
Tell me how they could do this without destroying the battle system The battle system relies on you being on a 2D plane when you fight.
Princess Skittles said:
Use Semi-Auto if you can't handle it. Otherwise let the people who don't suck at the game play.
Princess Skittles said:
Camera problems seem pretty rare to me, what a surprise, being ganged up up means you have to run.
Plus, if it's just one enemy lock onto that one, and attack it, even if you can't see yourself if you're facing it you'll attack.
Princess Skittles said:
Set up tactics correctly.
WickedLaharl
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kiryogi said:WickedLaharl: by annoying you mean being so selfless? If that's the case. never.
oh god that sucks.
i guess i've got another question. how spoilerific are the secret achievements? i wanna look at a list but will pass on doing so if they spoil anything important.
JSnake said:Estelle's so cute at the beginning but then she becomes less naive and the cuteness fades.
yes!! i can't wait until her naivety ends.
WickedLaharl said:
They're all during boss battles so. That'd spoil a lot.
JSnake: More like Yuri/Judy counter whatever silliness Estelle is. But yes, Rita is made of win. They all are. Oh and what puzzle?
The moons?
WickedLaharl
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damn. guess i'll worry about achievements on a second playthru.
thanks for answering my questions!
thanks for answering my questions!
Yuri is seriously a weird RPG main character. He seems to have no real goal, no desire except to just keep moving and doing stuff. Never questions himself, never questions others, supreme confidence. It's odd.
And watch out, you actually might be saddened when you see why Estelle loses some of her naivete
And watch out, you actually might be saddened when you see why Estelle loses some of her naivete
Do what I do. Every time you get to a boss, just go to gamefaqs and ctrl+f "secret mission #" on the cheats/codes section. I'd love it if someone who's finished the game would just put them here with spoiler tags on the boss names thoughWickedLaharl said:
I couldn't play yesterday but gonna go back to the game now =)
Turn Dynamic Camera off in settings. Change the strategy of your party members under Strategy. Turn off spells you don't want to be used under Artes. As for the linear battle system thing, I agree with kiryogi.Princess Skittles said:
Firestorm said:Do what I do. Every time you get to a boss, just go to gamefaqs and ctrl+f "secret mission #" on the cheats/codes section. I'd love it if someone who's finished the game would just put them here with spoiler tags on the boss names though
I was typing it up, then I realized some folks here might be sensitive to gameplay spoilers too so I stopped...
Case: Really want to know?
Jonnyram: 12. Double the 爆砕陣 XD But like I said, I did fail once with the skill change deal. I unequipped Raven but forgot to take the skill off D: :cries: And it took a few 時雨 before it actually triggered. I was going wtf when he still had the barrier on D: I'm fighting the Gigant there now.
Weird, it's actually the opposite in the Japanese version, so if you fire off artes with your A button, you use the B button to trigger burst arte.Tamanon said:He reversed the buttons to make it like the PS2 Tales games. You do the arte, and then in the midst of the arte going off you press and hold whichever button is for artes