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The Tales of Vesperia |OT|
- Thread starter Firestorm
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It's not spoilers, but in tags anywaycress2000 said:
Make the water go down again. Move the block that's to the left of Estelle into the water (move to the right hand side, and then up) so you can stand on top of it. Move the pillar with the gem on it nearby. Stand on the pillar you pushed into the water and shoot the gem. You'll float up with the water and walk onto the platform.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
Dr. Kitty Muffins said:
Yes, fuck yes. I'm 30 hours in and this game is amazing
PseudoKirby
Banned
wow I am slow, I just realised you can extend brutal fang to like 20 hits by hitting B over and over again while doing the attack,
PseudoKirby
Banned
mugwhump said:
seriously as in like you didnt know either? or that it took me 50 hours to figure it out?
anyways yea, if you time it right, I got a 30 hit combo out of Brutal Fang alone
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Do the Fell Arms only get stronger after they're activated or will it count all the kills made before they're activated?
Jamesfrom818
Banned
Well, I decided that I'd do all the sidequests on a second playthrough and I am about 5 hours into it. I was just wondering if I should nix this playthrough, go back to the first one and then do the Fell Arms quest.
I'm not sure I'll be playing this a third time anytime soon so I suppose I might as well just complete the quest already and save my grade shop powered 2nd playthrough for later.
I'm not sure I'll be playing this a third time anytime soon so I suppose I might as well just complete the quest already and save my grade shop powered 2nd playthrough for later.
PseudoKirby
Banned
why did I waste 300,000 gald just to see a little skit?
I can't believe I fucked up the Clay quest on my second playthrough I missed the part in Mantaik around #89
Anyway, beat the game in a little over 12 hours, doing the hidden dungeon now. Already about lv 150 or so.
I can't decide whether to get my third Heliod costume title on the lv 15 playthrough or a separate playthrough. I figured it might be quite a drag to play that far with an exp handicap. Guess I will see how hard the lv 15 achievement is first, and take it from there.
I missed the part in Mantaik around #89 Anyway, beat the game in a little over 12 hours, doing the hidden dungeon now. Already about lv 150 or so.
I can't decide whether to get my third Heliod costume title on the lv 15 playthrough or a separate playthrough. I figured it might be quite a drag to play that far with an exp handicap. Guess I will see how hard the lv 15 achievement is first, and take it from there.
FateBreaker
Member
PseudoKirby said:
I asked myself this very question. Then I reset my 360.
PseudoKirby
Banned
FateBreaker said:
I was going to do the same, but then I read into it, in the long run its for costumes for the whole party
on another note, what are these little displays on the japanese island? one looks like klonoa or something
PseudoKirby
Banned
oh also, is there ANY way to get estelle's original costume she wears at the beginning? I like that costume..
crowphoenix
Banned
PseudoKirby said:
You've got to go there multiple times. Do it enough, and you'll get something. I was a tad annoyed at first too. :lol
mugwhump said:
I was slow in picking that one up too. What's really awesome is that if you hit B fast enough, it'll give you the effects of a limit attack, allowing your combo to start back over at the first attack.
How to do get the Customize Pack:Estelle to work?
Wife was tired of Estelle's look so I got her the pack
but when I go to Estelle's info to change her title, the titles
from the pack are not there. Do I have to save or go to
a town to activate the pack or is it suppose to be automatic?
The pack is suppose to work at any part of the story right?
Or am I just looking in the wrong place to change her costume
with the pack?
Wife was tired of Estelle's look so I got her the pack
but when I go to Estelle's info to change her title, the titles
from the pack are not there. Do I have to save or go to
a town to activate the pack or is it suppose to be automatic?
The pack is suppose to work at any part of the story right?
Or am I just looking in the wrong place to change her costume
with the pack?
Firestorm said:
I checked there and there is a check mark by the pack with the only option being to download it again. I also tried deleting the pack and continuing the game but when i tried to load it said that the pack was missing and wouldn't let me play again until the pack was downloaded once more. Weird. It knows the pack is there but for some reason the contents of it aren't activated yet. oh well. -_-
I enjoyed the bathhouse skits and all. Besides, there wasn't much that I was doing with that money anymore.
Finished all the weapon synthesis, I think, got all but 2 synthable attachments (screw you Raven), most the ultimate armors, rebuilt the town, won lots and lots from Nam Combanda island...
And I'm still probably ~90% done with the game... not counting all the sidequests I missed!
Finished all the weapon synthesis, I think, got all but 2 synthable attachments (screw you Raven), most the ultimate armors, rebuilt the town, won lots and lots from Nam Combanda island...
And I'm still probably ~90% done with the game... not counting all the sidequests I missed!
FateBreaker
Member
PseudoKirby said:
wait, really? i have to pay 300,000 to see some skits and get some titles?
(are the costumes cool?
)crowphoenix
Banned
FateBreaker said:wait, really? i have to pay 300,000 to see some skits and get some titles?
(are the costumes cool?
Actually, 900,000 in all. And it's the standard bathing/beach stuff from most Tales games. Save Estelle's which is an abomination. The best part is that wearing them will net you really funny skits.
Papercuts said:
I've done the first scene
and helped the lady with the orphanage, but I don't see anything when I go to Ehmead Hill. What am I missing?
crowphoenix
Banned
DP
FateBreaker
Member
crowphoenix said:
Holy GOD.
PseudoKirby
Banned
damnit I have to do another playthrough to get ravens
costume
damnit I wish I would have found this costumes FAQ earlier...
schwann
damnit I wish I would have found this costumes FAQ earlier...
crowphoenix said:
If you enter from the side you exit on after first going through, head north like you would be heading up to the cliff, but take a right when you can. There's an area with a few chests and Gattuso cubs, so if you've been there before you should know what I mean. A scene will happen there automatically.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
I can't remember what review I read of that that said that the script of this game deserved better actors, while the voice actors are good, the premise and story to this game is fucking amazing and perhaps did deserve better.
I need to go fight Belius again because she kicked my ass
PseudoKirby
Banned
PseudoKirby said:
I must Know!
and the island I mean is Nam Cobanda Isle
Finished the game a couple of days ago. I enjoyed the battle system and the skill system. I thought that the skits were sometimes more entertaining that the dialogue during the main game.
My favorite thing about the game has to be the main character, finally a non winy male lead in a jrpg. Sadly he was wasted in a story that i feel was bland and boring. Towards the end of the game, i was just playing to beat those huge monsters cause the combat was fun. Heck i skipped most random battles in the last dungeon. Honestly, i thought the story sucked.
I hope the next crop of console jrpgs can do better story wise, but i won't be holding my breath.
Solid game overall.
My favorite thing about the game has to be the main character, finally a non winy male lead in a jrpg. Sadly he was wasted in a story that i feel was bland and boring. Towards the end of the game, i was just playing to beat those huge monsters cause the combat was fun. Heck i skipped most random battles in the last dungeon. Honestly, i thought the story sucked.
I hope the next crop of console jrpgs can do better story wise, but i won't be holding my breath.
Solid game overall.
donkey show
Member
Man, I love 10x exp. After I got the boat again on my second playthrough I went straight to Nam Cobanda Isle and went from level 50 to 100 in less than a hour. :lol
PseudoKirby
Banned
lmfao I love over limits with rita
literally "Bla Bla Bla" *cast* "Bla Bla bla" *cast* "Bla Bla Bla" *cast*
its chaotic
literally "Bla Bla Bla" *cast* "Bla Bla bla" *cast* "Bla Bla Bla" *cast*
its chaotic
donkey show
Member
Ohhh can't wait. My primary goal was to make more money to fund my synthesis since I didn't transfer over my moola from the previous game, but I got hooked in leveling after every battle there. :lolJonnyram said:
PseudoKirby
Banned
also, in battle, whenever raven says "HEY!" I start singing
"What makes a man is it the power in his hands.."
"What makes a man is it the power in his hands.."
Ok so my thoughts. I finished at about LV54 - LV56. 41:33 hours in. Normal. Party was Yuri, Estelle, Rita, Raven. I used Yuri as my character.
Visuals were amazing throughout the game. No idea why sites gave it a low score. Like I mentioned before, the CG scenes looked worse than the game. Towns were beautiful, but I did dislike how so much of the towns were inaccessible. Dahngrest for example looks huge but you can't really get to most of it. The same applies to Zaphias. There's a bustling marketplace which you can see and hear but cannot access. Characters looked great but facial expressions needed some work.
Music was pretty crappy overall. There were some great tracks, but most of it was not memorable at all. Around the World SUCKS. God. Horrible track that killed the mood at many points in the story. It's the one that plays in the trailer. Track 12 on the bonus disc. Although I said I disliked the music in the battle between
, Fury Sparks (Track 8 of the Bonus Disc) in the battle between
was pretty awesome. Not as good as
, but one of the better tracks for sure. The
. I also liked Yuri's Theme and Dahngrest. But I have no idea what any of those tracks are called. Bosses just had crappy music. Battle music was decent.
Controls were easy enough to get used to after I switched them to my liking. AI was stupid this time around. I usually don't have a problem with AI in Tales games, but Estelle is stupid beyond words. She just doesn't do what you set her to do. Tales mages still haven't learned to stop casting magic that the enemy is weak against after doing it once.
Battle system was what I expected. Like Bebpo said earlier, the game really emphasizes combos with all the skills you learn, but the enemies fall down or just break your combo magically that it's really frustrating. I couldn't break 100 combo hits before finishing the game. I still haven't hit 100 hits. Skills were awesome, but I wish that instead of using SP you could just have all the skills at once. I think it would have made battles more fluid. There really wasn't enough SP to go around.
What annoyed me in dungeons was that enemies were almost unavoidable due to the narrow paths. I like battles, but I'm not a fan of small battles so I usually avoid them... it was really hard to do in this game. If it was turn-based, I'd have been really frustrated.
Achievements were done really well IMO. Secret Missions are a great idea, although they were executed in a crappy way for some points. They need better Secret Missions. The concept's good, but damn, "break his guard, stop, and hit him with this other character in .5 seconds" does not make a good Secret Mission. 1 playthrough can net you 700+/1000 Achievements which is good. None of that Eternal Sonata or Blue Dragon crap.
Now Story and Characters.
I mostly focused on the negatives, but I still enjoyed it. The most important bit was of course the gameplay and the battle system was awesome, awesome, awesome. Only improvements I could really make to it would be allowing skills to be all on at once and having enemies not magically break out of combos. I haven't played many games lately, but Vesperia's drawn me back in. Gonna try Infinite Undiscovery after I've done a few sidequests. Is there a Sidequest FAQ that's as awesome for those who're already done the game as this one for Symphonia? I know people are using Kouli's, but it's not as good when you've finished the game and just want to go tie up loose ends.
Visuals were amazing throughout the game. No idea why sites gave it a low score. Like I mentioned before, the CG scenes looked worse than the game. Towns were beautiful, but I did dislike how so much of the towns were inaccessible. Dahngrest for example looks huge but you can't really get to most of it. The same applies to Zaphias. There's a bustling marketplace which you can see and hear but cannot access. Characters looked great but facial expressions needed some work.
Music was pretty crappy overall. There were some great tracks, but most of it was not memorable at all. Around the World SUCKS. God. Horrible track that killed the mood at many points in the story. It's the one that plays in the trailer. Track 12 on the bonus disc. Although I said I disliked the music in the battle between
Yuri and Estelle
Yuri and Flynn
Meaning of Birth (here) in Tales of the Abyss
remix of Ring a Bell (here) was pretty good, although it didn't have as much impact as Meaning of Birth did
Controls were easy enough to get used to after I switched them to my liking. AI was stupid this time around. I usually don't have a problem with AI in Tales games, but Estelle is stupid beyond words. She just doesn't do what you set her to do. Tales mages still haven't learned to stop casting magic that the enemy is weak against after doing it once.
Battle system was what I expected. Like Bebpo said earlier, the game really emphasizes combos with all the skills you learn, but the enemies fall down or just break your combo magically that it's really frustrating. I couldn't break 100 combo hits before finishing the game. I still haven't hit 100 hits. Skills were awesome, but I wish that instead of using SP you could just have all the skills at once. I think it would have made battles more fluid. There really wasn't enough SP to go around.
What annoyed me in dungeons was that enemies were almost unavoidable due to the narrow paths. I like battles, but I'm not a fan of small battles so I usually avoid them... it was really hard to do in this game. If it was turn-based, I'd have been really frustrated.
Achievements were done really well IMO. Secret Missions are a great idea, although they were executed in a crappy way for some points. They need better Secret Missions. The concept's good, but damn, "break his guard, stop, and hit him with this other character in .5 seconds" does not make a good Secret Mission. 1 playthrough can net you 700+/1000 Achievements which is good. None of that Eternal Sonata or Blue Dragon crap.
Now Story and Characters.
Yuri is awesome. Honestly the best Tales lead by far. However, the rest of the characters aren't so memorable. They really didn't develop that much at all.
Raven had a lot of promise, but he was handled poorly. More about his involvement in the Great War should have been explained. For some reason, he switches from kidnapping Estelle as Alexei's pawn to a member of Brave Vesperia really freaking quickly. There's nothing said about his thought process at all. Also, shouldn't he be dead? All the blastia was used up in the final scene. You could see the Bodhi blastia worn by the rest of the cast being broken. Potential was there, but they didn't give him enough time.
Karol was annoying. I would definitely have liked to see him developing Brave Vesperia more though. I say Flynn should have just gone against Yuri and given Brave Vesperia credit for a lot of what they did and have the guild become a strong part of the Union by the end of the game. The guild concept was something I really liked but they didn't seem to further.
Speaking of Flynn, he was also an awesome character. Yuri and Flynn stole the game. They were handled great. Good relationship. The trailers and even box seemed to indicate they'd have some sort of Lelouch vs Suzaku (Code Geass - OH SHIT there's a new Code Trainwreck today I just remembered!) relationship but they stayed pretty friendly throughout.
Rita was almost ignored. Her backstory was not covered at all. Why Judith left Myorzo wasn't really explained. Estelle was just standard. Nothing exceptional but she wasn't ignored.
I'm guessing I have to do the sidequest on this one, but who the hell were Gauche and Droite supposed to be? They were in the intro but did almost nothing in game. I don't even remember fighting them. Is that part of the sidequest too? Can I still do it?
As for the story itself, I didn't like Part 1 nearly as much as you guys did. The hunt for the Aque Blastia was getting kind of old considering it took a bit over 10 hours. However, Yuri's actions did keep the story interesting. I found it a lost opportunity how they didn't keep going with that path for Parts 2 and 3. I mean, other than his finisher on Alexei, he didn't get much more to do, did he?
Parts 2 and especially 3 were standard Tales fare so nothing really that great. It was interesting seeing Team Symphonia's take on the energy/oil crisis though. Funny how they seem to just take a topic and chuck alchemy and magic at it until it becomes a jRPG story. Racism and mixed races (like the Metis) in Symphonia, cloning in Abyss, energy crisis in Vesperia.
Raven had a lot of promise, but he was handled poorly. More about his involvement in the Great War should have been explained. For some reason, he switches from kidnapping Estelle as Alexei's pawn to a member of Brave Vesperia really freaking quickly. There's nothing said about his thought process at all. Also, shouldn't he be dead? All the blastia was used up in the final scene. You could see the Bodhi blastia worn by the rest of the cast being broken. Potential was there, but they didn't give him enough time.
Karol was annoying. I would definitely have liked to see him developing Brave Vesperia more though. I say Flynn should have just gone against Yuri and given Brave Vesperia credit for a lot of what they did and have the guild become a strong part of the Union by the end of the game. The guild concept was something I really liked but they didn't seem to further.
Speaking of Flynn, he was also an awesome character. Yuri and Flynn stole the game. They were handled great. Good relationship. The trailers and even box seemed to indicate they'd have some sort of Lelouch vs Suzaku (Code Geass - OH SHIT there's a new Code Trainwreck today I just remembered!) relationship but they stayed pretty friendly throughout.
Rita was almost ignored. Her backstory was not covered at all. Why Judith left Myorzo wasn't really explained. Estelle was just standard. Nothing exceptional but she wasn't ignored.
I'm guessing I have to do the sidequest on this one, but who the hell were Gauche and Droite supposed to be? They were in the intro but did almost nothing in game. I don't even remember fighting them. Is that part of the sidequest too? Can I still do it?
As for the story itself, I didn't like Part 1 nearly as much as you guys did. The hunt for the Aque Blastia was getting kind of old considering it took a bit over 10 hours. However, Yuri's actions did keep the story interesting. I found it a lost opportunity how they didn't keep going with that path for Parts 2 and 3. I mean, other than his finisher on Alexei, he didn't get much more to do, did he?
Parts 2 and especially 3 were standard Tales fare so nothing really that great. It was interesting seeing Team Symphonia's take on the energy/oil crisis though. Funny how they seem to just take a topic and chuck alchemy and magic at it until it becomes a jRPG story. Racism and mixed races (like the Metis) in Symphonia, cloning in Abyss, energy crisis in Vesperia.
I mostly focused on the negatives, but I still enjoyed it. The most important bit was of course the gameplay and the battle system was awesome, awesome, awesome. Only improvements I could really make to it would be allowing skills to be all on at once and having enemies not magically break out of combos. I haven't played many games lately, but Vesperia's drawn me back in. Gonna try Infinite Undiscovery after I've done a few sidequests. Is there a Sidequest FAQ that's as awesome for those who're already done the game as this one for Symphonia? I know people are using Kouli's, but it's not as good when you've finished the game and just want to go tie up loose ends.
Firestorm said:
Yeah, you can still do that part of the sidequest. You need to start at Capua Torim and see a scene with them, then head over to the Ehmead Hill area where some Gattuso cubs and chests are for another scene. After that go to Mt. Temza for a scene, and end it at the spot Yeager died in Zaude. It helps flesh them out a little, but I still think there's more to see through other sidequests, but I haven't seen anything else yet.
Firestorm said:
High five!
The sign of victory!
Also, I'd recommend laying off on starting IU for a day or two, and just let the feelings/memories of Vesperia settle. I jumped in to IU within hours of beating ToV, and I was immediately struck by the difference in visuals, the dialogue and the not-playing-as-Yuri.
Fenix said:Yeah. this really bothered me too, especially since the "night before" in his scene with Karol, it almost seems like a going away speech, but naturally Karol is too young to understand. Oh well
Atleast with the ending you could stretch some theory like his blastia is powered by life force and not aer so it wasn't needed, though I also thought he was going to die.
What I REALLY want to know is how he survived right after the Schwann thing, the whole placed caved in and he just shows up later like "lol hai". I really liked the revelation until that.
What I REALLY want to know is how he survived right after the Schwann thing, the whole placed caved in and he just shows up later like "lol hai". I really liked the revelation until that.